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Krew

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@Krew

Your fame seems a bit odd, when i had 30k points i already had over 200 fame. I now have 74k points and 577 fame, and is nov 10, 2024, just so you can make a comparison. Is your client satisfaction very low? Maybe you are selling very low quality food and drinks at a too high price? Did you already build the seating area or are just serving meals out of the kitchen?
My qualities for both food and drink are maxed 10. I think that was my biggest mistake. I came out the gate buying max quality, it didn't really seem to help that much. I restarted again on 1.04 and did the more 'reasonable' start and things seem to be progressing ... fine? We'll see.

Seems like might have just been a weird blip.
 

devil999LEXX

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Can you please tell me exactly what the conditions are for recruiting someone into the cult? I`m already the leader of the cult. As far as i`ve understood, if a girl has willpower or lewdness >50 she will never join, no matter of any other modifiers? You said Liking you and liking following orders also helps. Does the opinion about faith or religion work or taking drugs also factor in? What else influences a person`s decision to join or not (abilities, skills, opinions, etc)?

And also, a few related questions:
1. If lewdness can only be increased in the cult meetings, how can i increase a persons lewdness that is already 50+ if she will always refuse to join the cult?
2. Can you please add the possibility to select my own schedule for the meetings, to host the meetings more often, maybe something like once every week or two weeks? I think an increase of 12 lewdness/year is a bit too little, and that is IF i get lucky enough to have the same person volunteer in each meeting of that year (yes i know i also have the option to select that person, with lower chance of positive results).
3. Can you please add the possibility to fire/dismiss someone from the cult? As a straight man, i really don`t want to see other dudes stripping when i ask for volunteers, i really don`t care about THEIR lewdness no matter how much i want to "deprogram" all the cult... :LOL:
4. While playing, when i was about to take over the leadership of the cult, i was given 2 options to do so, one being to simply confront her during a cult meeting and take over, and the second option was if some "accident" happened to her, but i was unable to discover how to do this. Can you please elaborate a bit on this second path?
what choices you need to chalenge her for leadership ? it is here a way to look at your popularity ? i allways donate max amount of money and bring extra foor before meeting, but so far no choise to chalenge her.
 

leequiring

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what choices you need to chalenge her for leadership ? it is here a way to look at your popularity ? i allways donate max amount of money and bring extra foor before meeting, but so far no choise to chalenge her.
Find a fellow cult member, and talk to them about the cult. They will open that path for you, eventually. I think there are two steps to that.
 

devil999LEXX

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one more thing, it is there a way to have fixed/inteligent layout of your game ? as of now, as player add rooms, you will end up with total random placing of rooms, locker room there, there, up there. instead of having them all in one area.
same goes to kitchen are, not conected to storage room and to your club visitor area, entrance literary in middle of club, instead to be next to parking lot.etc.

fixed layout will fix everthing of this, and make orientation there a little easier. yes, im completly undertsand this will need start of new game to be working, but hey, thats price for playing games in early stage of development.
 

tooldev

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one more thing, it is there a way to have fixed/inteligent layout of your game ? as of now, as player add rooms, you will end up with total random placing of rooms, locker room there, there, up there. instead of having them all in one area.
same goes to kitchen are, not conected to storage room and to your club visitor area, entrance literary in middle of club, instead to be next to parking lot.etc.

fixed layout will fix everthing of this, and make orientation there a little easier. yes, im completly undertsand this will need start of new game to be working, but hey, thats price for playing games in early stage of development.
Arguments against a fixed layout:

- Rooms are decided by the player, which means they are build in random order.
- The player navigates via the top area of the menu from room to room. There is no walking, it doesnt matter if room a is beside room b
- There is no mechanic that requires any room to be 'near' any other room since there is no active logistics beside warehousing. Time and actions are decided by 'activity' and not by distance
- Job positions take care of any logistics between rooms 'invisibly'

So another 'i want' or 'nice to have' but without any meaning for the actual game. What one person likes as a layout is never the same for any other player. Why code some layout mechanism that has no meaning?
 

leequiring

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Arguments against a fixed layout:

- Rooms are decided by the player, which means they are build in random order.
- The player navigates via the top area of the menu from room to room. There is no walking, it doesnt matter if room a is beside room b
- There is no mechanic that requires any room to be 'near' any other room since there is no active logistics beside warehousing. Time and actions are decided by 'activity' and not by distance
- Job positions take care of any logistics between rooms 'invisibly'

So another 'i want' or 'nice to have' but without any meaning for the actual game. What one person likes as a layout is never the same for any other player. Why code some layout mechanism that has no meaning?
Have to disagree with you on this one. Just my personal feeling, but searching the screen for the room I want to visit gets annoying. Consistency means a lot to me. So many random events happen when you visit even the locker rooms, it would be of help to see them in a standard layout.
 

tooldev

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Have to disagree with you on this one. Just my personal feeling, but searching the screen for the room I want to visit gets annoying. Consistency means a lot to me. So many random events happen when you visit even the locker rooms, it would be of help to see them in a standard layout.
Then using a different method to navigate (drop down list) might be the better solution. Since rooms are random and it doesnt matter, if rooms are near each other, the entire graphical representation is kind of overkill. The problem with the graphical representation is that a player can have multitudes of a certain room, while another player has only 1 or less than the other player. Keep the effort in mind it takes to cover all exceptional combinations now.
 
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leequiring

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Then using a different method to navigate (drop down list) might be the better solution. Since rooms are random and it doesnt matter, if rooms are near each other, the entire graphical representation is kind of overkill. The problem with the graphical representation is that a player can have multitudes of a certain room, while another player has only 1 or less than the other player. Keep the effort in mind it takes to cover all exceptional combinations now.
Also a good suggestion, the pull-down menu. Anything to help an old man like me find the target room. Do you ever visit the locker rooms after closing? Opportunities are plentiful. :)
 
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tooldev

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Also a good suggestion, the pull-down menu. Anything to help an old man like me find the target room. Do you ever visit the locker rooms after closing? Opportunities are plentiful. :)
I do and I am on the other side of half-a-century as well. More importantly I keep in mind what Fluke is capable of as a developer. The UI has been mentioned several times and he stated clearly that he really has difficulties implementing some of it. So asking for some graphical thing that has almost no necessity or advantage compared to man hours is just....
 

HideyBird

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Nov 21, 2021
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How do I get the All In The Family achievement? I turned off the taboos, and already had both of my sisters in a polygamous relationship but they would both only recommend the same characters and I could never recommend them to each other, although I could from others in my harem of relationships. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional and meant to be obtained by sleeping with two sisters not related to me.
They both have love for: Incest, Polygamy, Threesomes, Sex, Casual Sex, Being Submissive, Own Ethnicity and are gay/bi. I've tried everything from alternating canceling the request of threesome, re-asking them, and even breaking up with one of them with no success
Thanks in advance
 

leequiring

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How do I get the All In The Family achievement? I turned off the taboos, and already had both of my sisters in a polygamous relationship but they would both only recommend the same characters and I could never recommend them to each other, although I could from others in my harem of relationships. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional and meant to be obtained by sleeping with two sisters not related to me.
They both have love for: Incest, Polygamy, Threesomes, Sex, Casual Sex, Being Submissive, Own Ethnicity and are gay/bi. I've tried everything from alternating canceling the request of threesome, re-asking them, and even breaking up with one of them with no success
Thanks in advance
Patience. I've had it happen twice with them, but it takes a while for "random" to select that pairing. There are also mother/daughter opportunities. You might want to make sure they find each other attractive.
 

TotalFluke

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i hope i did find coorect line regarding crashes

Memory usage before GC=114Mb after GC=111Mb

so, it dont look bad. mayby it is there conflict in memory with another program ?

and just one note regarding user_config.dat
i added this line
vauto_save_freq int 1
so i now know where was problem why game didnt autosaved (it was because added letter v), but this lead me to some guestion. it is posible to add some sort of checks to user config for unknown commands to prevent mistakes ?
Wow, 114Mb is way lower than I would have expected. I've never seen it that low. I wish I had something useful to suggest.

How do you convince someone to quit their job for sex work? Even if you've made them hate all other work and have a preference for sex work, entertainment work, and service work, you still can't persuade them to take a job at your strip club. Any help, please?
Depends on the person. Some jobs are permanent (you can see that in the Jobs listing under help). For example, nurses have permanent jobs which means they can't be hired. Also those that just started a job won't take another job for at least 90 days (to prevent person bouncing from job to job). No matter what you do in those cases, they won't even interview with you. If those are not issues, get them to like you more would be the first start and then get them to like the job type you want them (which you appear to be doing already).

Can you please tell me exactly what the conditions are for recruiting someone into the cult? I`m already the leader of the cult. As far as i`ve understood, if a girl has willpower or lewdness >50 she will never join, no matter of any other modifiers? You said Liking you and liking following orders also helps. Does the opinion about faith or religion work or taking drugs also factor in? What else influences a person`s decision to join or not (abilities, skills, opinions, etc)?

And also, a few related questions:
1. If lewdness can only be increased in the cult meetings, how can i increase a persons lewdness that is already 50+ if she will always refuse to join the cult?
2. Can you please add the possibility to select my own schedule for the meetings, to host the meetings more often, maybe something like once every week or two weeks? I think an increase of 12 lewdness/year is a bit too little, and that is IF i get lucky enough to have the same person volunteer in each meeting of that year (yes i know i also have the option to select that person, with lower chance of positive results).
3. Can you please add the possibility to fire/dismiss someone from the cult? As a straight man, i really don`t want to see other dudes stripping when i ask for volunteers, i really don`t care about THEIR lewdness no matter how much i want to "deprogram" all the cult... :LOL:
4. While playing, when i was about to take over the leadership of the cult, i was given 2 options to do so, one being to simply confront her during a cult meeting and take over, and the second option was if some "accident" happened to her, but i was unable to discover how to do this. Can you please elaborate a bit on this second path?
You already identified the conditions that would cause someone to never join (the ones that they say their personality is not compatible or something like that). To talk others into it the most important factors are you having high sociability and they having low will power. Their opinion of you is next in importance. Then them liking following orders also helps a lot. After that is mostly random.

1. Not exactly true. Everyone's lewdness increases as time goes by. All the club exert lewdness relative to their fame. The higher the fame the more lewdness increases on the people that live near the club. When you see those messages that "lewdness in your district went up" that means that the average of everyone that lives there went up by that much. So even those at lewdness 50 will keep going up. A club influence affects the district the club is in, and those around it, so people that live in the center (downtown) will typically have their lewdness increase faster.

2. The cult meeting is pretty overpowered as it is. Every member in the cult can increase their lewdness in every meeting by up to 5 points. That's a lot! Focus less on the volunteer itself, who gets a nice bump, but if it succeeds, everyone else also gets a smaller but still sizable bump.

3. Yeah that's on the list, to help manage the cult when it gets too large.

4. Basically if the leader is very hurt and can't make it she might ask you to takeover. Much harder to do unless you finished the mobsters story and can use them to make her disappear.

My qualities for both food and drink are maxed 10. I think that was my biggest mistake. I came out the gate buying max quality, it didn't really seem to help that much. I restarted again on 1.04 and did the more 'reasonable' start and things seem to be progressing ... fine? We'll see.

Seems like might have just been a weird blip.
Good. In all likelihood your initial bartender had very low lewdness which led to low satisfaction which led to fame increasing very slowly. You can fix their skills, but improving their lewdness won't be easy at first. (In a case like this you can also work as a bartender and that may help you get your fame up a bit, at the expense of being tied up for a time period)

what choices you need to chalenge her for leadership ? it is here a way to look at your popularity ? i allways donate max amount of money and bring extra foor before meeting, but so far no choise to chalenge her.
Those help, but recruiting others is the best way and the second is to join other cult members in their monthly activities. Talk to them after the meeting so they invite you to those.

one more thing, it is there a way to have fixed/inteligent layout of your game ? as of now, as player add rooms, you will end up with total random placing of rooms, locker room there, there, up there. instead of having them all in one area.
same goes to kitchen are, not conected to storage room and to your club visitor area, entrance literary in middle of club, instead to be next to parking lot.etc.

fixed layout will fix everthing of this, and make orientation there a little easier. yes, im completly undertsand this will need start of new game to be working, but hey, thats price for playing games in early stage of development.
So the entrance is hardcoded to always be on the 2nd row, left column, right next to the parking lot. So not sure why it would have appeared in the middle of your club. In general the rooms will appear in a mostly logical place, but that depends on the order in which you do things. As the club gets bigger, the order is harder to maintain. For example, the bars and seating areas are supposed to be all lumped together but you are likely to add private rooms and back rooms and that breaks that block. Locker rooms, dressing rooms and the lounge are also supposed to be in the same area, but again depends on the order you add them. The process the same each time, so if you add rooms in the same order each time they will always be in the same spot.

The reason I don't let you pick a spot is because no one has requested this before and it's a ton of work to do.

what are the modifiers for the cheat add_mod char_id target_id mod_key cheat?
They are listed in the data/modifiers.txt file. For example this line:

mod close_family "Close family" 50 0 1

The 2nd field, "close_family" is the mod key for the modifier that is listed ad "Close family".

How do I get the All In The Family achievement? I turned off the taboos, and already had both of my sisters in a polygamous relationship but they would both only recommend the same characters and I could never recommend them to each other, although I could from others in my harem of relationships. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional and meant to be obtained by sleeping with two sisters not related to me.
They both have love for: Incest, Polygamy, Threesomes, Sex, Casual Sex, Being Submissive, Own Ethnicity and are gay/bi. I've tried everything from alternating canceling the request of threesome, re-asking them, and even breaking up with one of them with no success
Thanks in advance
As someone else said, patience. You have your two sisters as an option, or you can go with any of the mom/daughter pairs, and there may be a few other random family relations (you should get an introduction when these happen if you know one of the two people in it). You will need to make one of the pair your girlfriend and make sure the other two like incest and threesomes and that they are somewhat bi. Also prevent them from getting another bf/gf or it will make it harder.
 
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Fox.Mulder

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I noticed randomly the MCs mother appeared in my contacts list but there's no way to text them or contact them and I don't ever seem to run into them in the city. Is that all there is with that character? I don't recall ever seeing a pop up talking to her so I wonder if there's like a date they show up in the code or anything.
 

devil999LEXX

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Arguments against a fixed layout:

- Rooms are decided by the player, which means they are build in random order.
- The player navigates via the top area of the menu from room to room. There is no walking, it doesnt matter if room a is beside room b
- There is no mechanic that requires any room to be 'near' any other room since there is no active logistics beside warehousing. Time and actions are decided by 'activity' and not by distance
- Job positions take care of any logistics between rooms 'invisibly'

So another 'i want' or 'nice to have' but without any meaning for the actual game. What one person likes as a layout is never the same for any other player. Why code some layout mechanism that has no meaning?
yes, i know there is no mechanics requring rooms to be next to each other. but to have some logic to it is allways nice.
and it may be surprise to you, but i know that rooms are added in random, decided by player in which order he builds them, you told me nothing new.
same goes that time is decided by actions, not distace. again, nothing new to me.
there is no logistic between any rooms. surprise, i know it too.

for that last part.....well, you can be person who is exactic about "modern art" in which someone take two or three buckets of pait, throw it on wall/canvas and happily pay milions for it. but for others it will be waste of canvas and paint.worth absolutely nothing.

and can i have personal question ? not required by you to answer. how many games did you coded or moded ?
from your texts i have vision of profesor who teach certain subject, but have absolute zero practical experiences in it.
and why you thing it adds no meaning to game ? for you, perhaps. for others ? it may be deal breaker. you love to "teach me" how my sugestion have no structure...etc. but you totaly fail to see that there is needed some structure to game too.
if you add something, then you need to have idea how it will be implemented and it will look like.
if you implement something poorly, it is worse that if that feature will not b in game at all. that is how human psychology work.
because YOU dont care about something, it doesnt mean that other dont care about it. so your moral high horse will never work on me.
onlyest correct point you have is that fixed layout liked by one will not be liked by other. but there is solution to that, easiest is by adding manual how to create own fixed layout.
with added comand to user config which will unlock all laws/rooms and enough money to test it.
 

TheKing93

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How do I get the All In The Family achievement? I turned off the taboos, and already had both of my sisters in a polygamous relationship but they would both only recommend the same characters and I could never recommend them to each other, although I could from others in my harem of relationships. Not sure if it is a bug or intentional and meant to be obtained by sleeping with two sisters not related to me.
They both have love for: Incest, Polygamy, Threesomes, Sex, Casual Sex, Being Submissive, Own Ethnicity and are gay/bi. I've tried everything from alternating canceling the request of threesome, re-asking them, and even breaking up with one of them with no success
Thanks in advance
you need to have a threesome with to family members
 

devil999LEXX

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I noticed randomly the MCs mother appeared in my contacts list but there's no way to text them or contact them and I don't ever seem to run into them in the city. Is that all there is with that character? I don't recall ever seeing a pop up talking to her so I wonder if there's like a date they show up in the code or anything.
you cant call it when she is "away" - it is exactly same as for yours younger sister which contacts you, but you cant interact with her until she arive at airport.
and how old is "your" mother ? mine 64 and since i selected 22 years at start of game, it means she did have me at 40...hehe.

it will be interesing if player can chose at game start how many (and which gender) he did have, at age at which mom did have them - which will affect moms personality.

to say old joke.
todays 15 yo care only about sex and booze, they dont care that thiers moms today have 30.
 

devil999LEXX

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So the entrance is hardcoded to always be on the 2nd row, left column, right next to the parking lot. So not sure why it would have appeared in the middle of your club. In general the rooms will appear in a mostly logical place, but that depends on the order in which you do things. As the club gets bigger, the order is harder to maintain. For example, the bars and seating areas are supposed to be all lumped together but you are likely to add private rooms and back rooms and that breaks that block. Locker rooms, dressing rooms and the lounge are also supposed to be in the same area, but again depends on the order you add them. The process the same each time, so if you add rooms in the same order each time they will always be in the same spot.

The reason I don't let you pick a spot is because no one has requested this before and it's a ton of work to do.
since picture is worth more than thousends words. so it is a mess.
 

Fox.Mulder

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you cant call it when she is "away" - it is exactly same as for yours younger sister which contacts you, but you cant interact with her until she arive at airport.
and how old is "your" mother ? mine 64 and since i selected 22 years at start of game, it means she did have me at 40...hehe.

it will be interesing if player can chose at game start how many (and which gender) he did have, at age at which mom did have them - which will affect moms personality.

to say old joke.
todays 15 yo care only about sex and booze, they dont care that thiers moms today have 30.
Ah yeah I remember her showing up, but that time I got a conversation window about her coming so it confused me when she just appeared in my contacts lol. Mine's 63, so given that the game has been going for about a year now she'll have had me at 36 lol.
Would be kinda nice if you could choose your family at least at the beginning, rather than rely on RNG to decide 'cause I used to get sick of missing the date when the second sister shows up and they're a brother instead xD
 
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Can you please tell me exactly what the conditions are for recruiting someone into the cult? I`m already the leader of the cult. As far as i`ve understood, if a girl has willpower or lewdness >50 she will never join, no matter of any other modifiers? You said Liking you and liking following orders also helps. Does the opinion about faith or religion work or taking drugs also factor in? What else influences a person`s decision to join or not (abilities, skills, opinions, etc)?

And also, a few related questions:
1. If lewdness can only be increased in the cult meetings, how can i increase a persons lewdness that is already 50+ if she will always refuse to join the cult?
2. Can you please add the possibility to select my own schedule for the meetings, to host the meetings more often, maybe something like once every week or two weeks? I think an increase of 12 lewdness/year is a bit too little, and that is IF i get lucky enough to have the same person volunteer in each meeting of that year (yes i know i also have the option to select that person, with lower chance of positive results).
3. Can you please add the possibility to fire/dismiss someone from the cult? As a straight man, i really don`t want to see other dudes stripping when i ask for volunteers, i really don`t care about THEIR lewdness no matter how much i want to "deprogram" all the cult... :LOL:
4. While playing, when i was about to take over the leadership of the cult, i was given 2 options to do so, one being to simply confront her during a cult meeting and take over, and the second option was if some "accident" happened to her, but i was unable to discover how to do this. Can you please elaborate a bit on this second path?
Someone answered that for me a few pages back ... they should like/love faith, and following orders ... and I generally target those with less than 0 lewdness, still get a few refusals, but save-scumming before asking helps. Needless to say, your own social skills matter as well
 
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