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What determines closeness? I think this is what is stopping me from becoming the boyfriend of someone who is married but I can't figure out how to manipulate it for myself or to lower it for the husband.
 

Crosse

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loving the game so far but a little hard to get in hand without cheating , i currently have a problem where there's no policy going through the council beside a few that i got lucky for the singer other than that all other law are rejected.

also for some reason even when i accept a thresom that was proposed to me it's count it as rejected and the npc love me less ,

If someone know a way i can fix that without restarting the game please. I was also thinking as a suggestion if there's any plan to add a trust factor or review app in the game that could allow use to see what people think of the bar like if they like or hate the drink etc.. a small social to see that would help improving the club and gameplay a lot if it's possible.

like you could even see some rumor or gossip on the net etc.. would make more work to the market manager to silence them but also help keep in touch to see what concurent club have going on in there club for exemple:

an user be like : X Club is cool but the service is subpart and the music is wack;
or i love the ambience in X club but the drink are too expensive for the quality etc...
 
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jeaquedamez

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Hey Total Fluke. Really enjoy the game and the premise that it holds. Recently I started looking into creating mods now that you have mod support. I've created some simple things to cheat stats that I commonly use anyway. I also made a quick mod to ask npcs to undress. It's very simple and just does that without any checks on comfort or anything but it got me thinking. What if a mod could allow new poses to be used for certain jobs. Being a strip club I would expect my strippers to sometimes walk around nude. After some investigation this doesn't appear to be possible. It would be awesome if you could abstract that piece of the code to allow modders to create a mod that might enforce certain wardrobe possibilities for certain jobs. I originally thought that's what the poses.tfl file would do since it lists those potential poses anyway but that appears to just be for posting to social media after getting a job. It would bring some immersion to be able to make club policies that say all the singers and dancers had to be at minimum in underwear or higher reveal states and actually wear those for their job depending on comfort of course.
 

Warsteel

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How does the incest story with the second sister work? I'm getting lots of events with her but no matter what she never goes past talking dirty.
 

Crosse

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How does the incest story with the second sister work? I'm getting lots of events with her but no matter what she never goes past talking dirty.
if you whitelisted incest in your config you can change her opinion to like it then you can go beyond talking with her , depending if you restart you can get lucky and have her like it already otherwise you have to change her opinion and other people too cause they gonna know it.
 
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TotalFluke

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I found person in old save and put it in right spot, but still the same :(
I'm sorry, I wish I could help, but last time it took me over 30 minutes to figure out the issue. I have a feeling this is going to be a never ending mess of identifying what else got messed up one step at a time. You can look at the error log (normally at C:\Users\<your name>\AppData\LocalLow\Total Fluke Studios\StripClubWars\Player.log) and see if there's clues in there as to what's going on. If not, I suggest you go back to the old save that works. And anytime you modify a save file, make a copy of it first so that you can go back to it if something gets messed up by mistake.

Public sex and exhibitionism are 2 different fetishes, they are not interchangeable.
Exactly. You may be fine having sex in public. You may not want someone to post a video of it to Facebook where your boss or mom can see it. (And for the record, exhibitionism is modeled in the game via a combination of things, so not everyone will be upset that you posted it it).

A silly question, but do I really need bathroom attendants? They don't seem to serve any purpose. Too often I find them fucking. Maybe they are auditioning to be sex workers.
You don't need them. They help reduce the damage caused by the pipes bursting event and they help decrease the chances of employees selling drugs in the bathrooms. They also raise the fame of the club if they have enough lewdness. They also tend to get bored and give blow jobs to customers :D

What determines closeness? I think this is what is stopping me from becoming the boyfriend of someone who is married but I can't figure out how to manipulate it for myself or to lower it for the husband.
Closeness is a function of the opinion and how "close" the relation is. Essentially is the opinion multiplied by the relationship closeness (this is the value shown in the cheatsheet.txt file). For example a spouse has a closeness of .99, which is the highest by far. You can't adjust that, so you need to change their opinions. Which is hard, specially since a married couple will have sex often and each time they do it improves their opinions of each other. You will to make sure the target likes polyamory first. Without that it won't happen.

loving the game so far but a little hard to get in hand without cheating , i currently have a problem where there's no policy going through the council beside a few that i got lucky for the singer other than that all other law are rejected.

also for some reason even when i accept a thresom that was proposed to me it's count it as rejected and the npc love me less ,

If someone know a way i can fix that without restarting the game please. I was also thinking as a suggestion if there's any plan to add a trust factor or review app in the game that could allow use to see what people think of the bar like if they like or hate the drink etc.. a small social to see that would help improving the club and gameplay a lot if it's possible.

like you could even see some rumor or gossip on the net etc.. would make more work to the market manager to silence them but also help keep in touch to see what concurent club have going on in there club for exemple:

an user be like : X Club is cool but the service is subpart and the music is wack;
or i love the ambience in X club but the drink are too expensive for the quality etc...
The city commission not passing laws is probably the biggest complaint I get. The next version will make the commissioners more lewd on average which should help pass laws. But there's no one answer to fix this. You have to work each commissioner seperately and figure out the best way to sway them to get what you want. In general get to know them as much as possible. In particular learn their will power, lewdness and honor. Concentrate of the ones with low will power and sway them. Those with low honor you can try bribing, but early on cash is hard to come by so its not a good strategy then. When elections come up find the one that it's the most likely to vote for laws or easier to sway (high lewd/low will) and campaing for them.

Visit City Hall often and hope you get the materials to blackmail someone. And then use them.

Thanks for the other ideas. In general, the fame/satisfaction values is what people think of the bar. Satisfaction is essentially how happy people are with the services and products you offer a particular day. Fame is essentially the sum of all the daily satisfactions with additional external events that generate additional fame. When they are not happy about something you will see a message in the lower left telling you that customers were not particulary happy. And you get the occassional influencer popups when someone is doing a great or poor job. (Those are random when they appear, but they are based on the actual results). But yea, creating a more organic ways of presenting this info is a good idea.

Hey Total Fluke. Really enjoy the game and the premise that it holds. Recently I started looking into creating mods now that you have mod support. I've created some simple things to cheat stats that I commonly use anyway. I also made a quick mod to ask npcs to undress. It's very simple and just does that without any checks on comfort or anything but it got me thinking. What if a mod could allow new poses to be used for certain jobs. Being a strip club I would expect my strippers to sometimes walk around nude. After some investigation this doesn't appear to be possible. It would be awesome if you could abstract that piece of the code to allow modders to create a mod that might enforce certain wardrobe possibilities for certain jobs. I originally thought that's what the poses.tfl file would do since it lists those potential poses anyway but that appears to just be for posting to social media after getting a job. It would bring some immersion to be able to make club policies that say all the singers and dancers had to be at minimum in underwear or higher reveal states and actually wear those for their job depending on comfort of course.
The pose for every job is hardcoded in the Unity code. I've been meaning to expose this to data files for a while. However, that's not really what you are asking for. You want a hook to override what a person wears. This code is very complex and considers a million things (and depends on the images for the person) and runs for every character on every tick so it needs to be fast. Which is why is not exposed and it's only in the Unity code. (Similar situations include where a person needs to be at a given time and whether someone is willing to have sex, or any sex activity with another person).

Anyway, I'll have to think about it. Adding club policies to control this is certainly more feasible than exposing that code for modding.
 

leequiring

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You don't need them. They help reduce the damage caused by the pipes bursting event and they help decrease the chances of employees selling drugs in the bathrooms. They also raise the fame of the club if they have enough lewdness. They also tend to get bored and give blow jobs to customers :D
Honestly, I'm grateful for the position. It provides a cheap placeholder you can move someone out of into high-tier positions.
 
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Not YrBroom

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Speaking of customer satisfaction...I'd like to be able to compare drink and food prices when visiting a rival club. I can order a drink, but I don't know how that translates to average price in my club, and I can't order food at all.
 

Crosse

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Jan 27, 2018
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Thanks for the other ideas. In general, the fame/satisfaction values is what people think of the bar. Satisfaction is essentially how happy people are with the services and products you offer a particular day. Fame is essentially the sum of all the daily satisfactions with additional external events that generate additional fame. When they are not happy about something you will see a message in the lower left telling you that customers were not particulary happy. And you get the occassional influencer popups when someone is doing a great or poor job. (Those are random when they appear, but they are based on the actual results). But yea, creating a more organic ways of presenting this info is a good idea.
main reason i gave that suggestion is also because it would help when buying booze and food i've had many instance where i buy the most expensive booze but keep it a low price and yeti get the same amount or less of client like no real impact , with that option it could also help us know if it's worth going up in quality or not + some extras qreek . but thanks for giving it a ear hope you will get an idea of how implement it.

edit: dunno if it's intentional or not but marketing job salary are displayed by year instead hr even during the interview was pretty confusing for me at least.
also would it be possible to have a way to know who's favorite or friends or not so we can see them among the masse, cause i put a lot of girls as my favorite and i can't remember all of them .
 
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jeaquedamez

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The pose for every job is hardcoded in the Unity code. I've been meaning to expose this to data files for a while. However, that's not really what you are asking for. You want a hook to override what a person wears. This code is very complex and considers a million things (and depends on the images for the person) and runs for every character on every tick so it needs to be fast. Which is why is not exposed and it's only in the Unity code. (Similar situations include where a person needs to be at a given time and whether someone is willing to have sex, or any sex activity with another person).

Anyway, I'll have to think about it. Adding club policies to control this is certainly more feasible than exposing that code for modding.
While a hook would be cool I was thinking more simply that each job has a list of what poses can be worn by the character and modified at runtime. The runtime modification could be a simple new function like &add_pose_to_job(job_key, pose_name)and &remove_pose_from_job(job_key, pose_name) for example. Then a person could choose from those available outfits when they go to work. It's kinda weird having customers come into the strip club nude but all my performers are wearing something until asked to view their performance. Being able to customize outfits for certain jobs via the club policies is also acceptable but I was thinking a bit broader for other jobs outside of the club too. For example if public nudity is passed then city council members might show up to work nude. With the added functions I mentioned I could make that possible through a mod. I don't want the whole pose decision code abstracted out just a way to modify the hardcoded lists at runtime. I don't know the exact details of the system but if it's just a list of poses and comfort checks then 1 list for each job containing potential poses should suffice and allow for forcing certain outfits for certain jobs and allowing for breaking of the rules leading to other fun interactions. So when a person decides what to wear and there's no outfits matching their comfort they can fallback to the existing hardcoded suggestions. This can lead to future potential laws like enforced public nudity and if people aren't then they can get reported like prior to the public decency laws. Being a club policy would also help clarify when an employee isn't wearing sexy enough clothing to ask them to try. Right now it's unclear which outfits are considered sexy enough for each job but if I control that via a club policy it's easier to see who is going to have that interaction before evaluating them.

Also on the topic of poses it's odd that my chosen outfit will automatically change for me as the player. I should be able to continue wearing whatever I want at all times. This was almost fixed with the addition of the nude beach because when you leave there after getting nude you will often find yourself still nude until an event happens or you choose to change your clothes. I'd also be okay if this was a toggle in the settings somewhere to automatically change my outfit to fit certain requirements and keep the risk of being caught naked after visiting the nude beach. It could be fun to be hanging out at the beach and have to go do an interview and show up naked and get a comment from someone about doing the interview naked prior to public decency laws passing.
 

Crosse

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just saw it but i had an employe that i paid rehab , and she was removed from my hired list and started working for another club , then out of nowhere i get another event that tell me to give her a chance , sends her for rehab or fire her. is that normal ? or did the game bugged from the start and wasn't supposed to remove her from my hired list ?
 

Fox.Mulder

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What actually determines which image is used when you use different z values to add alternates? Do they need just higher general lewd stats or something?
 

TotalFluke

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Speaking of customer satisfaction...I'd like to be able to compare drink and food prices when visiting a rival club. I can order a drink, but I don't know how that translates to average price in my club, and I can't order food at all.
Good point on the food. I'll add rival club price visibility to the list but it probably won't help much. Clubs change prices on a weekly basis based on their satisfaction and how much money they are making.

main reason i gave that suggestion is also because it would help when buying booze and food i've had many instance where i buy the most expensive booze but keep it a low price and yeti get the same amount or less of client like no real impact , with that option it could also help us know if it's worth going up in quality or not + some extras qreek . but thanks for giving it a ear hope you will get an idea of how implement it.

edit: dunno if it's intentional or not but marketing job salary are displayed by year instead hr even during the interview was pretty confusing for me at least.
also would it be possible to have a way to know who's favorite or friends or not so we can see them among the masse, cause i put a lot of girls as my favorite and i can't remember all of them .
The impact of quality and prices is kind of slow. It's tricky to get that right and there's too many variables, but the main advantage of high quality and low prices is that it increases satisfaction which in turn increases fame which in turn increases the lewdness of the district which then drives more people to the club. Its a long term play. However, if you make the prices too high or the quality too low, the impact will be much more noticeable. IOW, going up is hard, going down is easy.

This may be a US cultural thing in that some people get paid salaries (a flat amount regardless of hours worked) and others get paid by the hour. In the game, the managers get salaries which means they don't get overtime pay. (It is also possible that it may be displaying the salary info in the wrong format, if so let me know the details when you see it).

While a hook would be cool I was thinking more simply that each job has a list of what poses can be worn by the character and modified at runtime. The runtime modification could be a simple new function like &add_pose_to_job(job_key, pose_name)and &remove_pose_from_job(job_key, pose_name) for example. Then a person could choose from those available outfits when they go to work. It's kinda weird having customers come into the strip club nude but all my performers are wearing something until asked to view their performance. Being able to customize outfits for certain jobs via the club policies is also acceptable but I was thinking a bit broader for other jobs outside of the club too. For example if public nudity is passed then city council members might show up to work nude. With the added functions I mentioned I could make that possible through a mod. I don't want the whole pose decision code abstracted out just a way to modify the hardcoded lists at runtime. I don't know the exact details of the system but if it's just a list of poses and comfort checks then 1 list for each job containing potential poses should suffice and allow for forcing certain outfits for certain jobs and allowing for breaking of the rules leading to other fun interactions. So when a person decides what to wear and there's no outfits matching their comfort they can fallback to the existing hardcoded suggestions. This can lead to future potential laws like enforced public nudity and if people aren't then they can get reported like prior to the public decency laws. Being a club policy would also help clarify when an employee isn't wearing sexy enough clothing to ask them to try. Right now it's unclear which outfits are considered sexy enough for each job but if I control that via a club policy it's easier to see who is going to have that interaction before evaluating them.

Also on the topic of poses it's odd that my chosen outfit will automatically change for me as the player. I should be able to continue wearing whatever I want at all times. This was almost fixed with the addition of the nude beach because when you leave there after getting nude you will often find yourself still nude until an event happens or you choose to change your clothes. I'd also be okay if this was a toggle in the settings somewhere to automatically change my outfit to fit certain requirements and keep the risk of being caught naked after visiting the nude beach. It could be fun to be hanging out at the beach and have to go do an interview and show up naked and get a comment from someone about doing the interview naked prior to public decency laws passing.
I get what you are saying with the people working never taking advantage of the laws. I guess I've justified internally as it being for recreation purposes only and workplaces can still implement their own rules. In the strip club they make money by selling dances and whatnot so if everyone is naked to begin with, that may cut down on revenue.

As for the MC dressing automatically, the MC still follows the same rules for getting dressed as other characters for some specific events (not all). For example, for dates and interviews. In general too, when a scene results in a character getting undressed, when the scene ends the character is returned to their prior clothing (although there's some bugs where it doesn't pick the right one, like after a 3some).

just saw it but i had an employe that i paid rehab , and she was removed from my hired list and started working for another club , then out of nowhere i get another event that tell me to give her a chance , sends her for rehab or fire her. is that normal ? or did the game bugged from the start and wasn't supposed to remove her from my hired list ?
That's a bug. Someone in rehab should essentially "disappear" for that time and then come back to work for you. Will need to investigate that.

What actually determines which image is used when you use different z values to add alternates? Do they need just higher general lewd stats or something?
It's random if they are comfortable with either. If they are not comfortable with the higher z value, then it will never pick it. The level of comfort includes a number of factors including their lewdness, their job and location, their opinion about attention, revealing clothing and public nudity, their level of looseness (which implies being drunk), and a few other minor ones.
 

welshhorse

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just a quick one, with the 1.04 update has anyone else noticed that if you click on the "what will you do for it" (or words to that effect) with the younger sister it just closes the conversation. I have edited the user_config so it could be me :)
Great game by the way, having fun with it.
 
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leequiring

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just a quick one, with the 1.04 update has anyone else noticed that if you click on the "what will you do for it" (or words to that effect) with the younger sister it just closes the conversation. I have edited the user_config so it could be me :)
Great game by the way, having fun with it.
I thought it was only me. Yeah, that's a new bug, it seems. She used to give blowjobs, I think.
 
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TheBoldOne

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I wish there was a "be naked" opinion. Coz my workers are loving hot weather, revealing clothes and public nudity,(~90 of lewdness and boldness) but they're still wearing clothes. TBH that's my kind of fetish and it would be great to be able to persuade a lot of townsfolks to be naked in the streets
 

Crosse

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I wish there was a "be naked" opinion. Coz my workers are loving hot weather, revealing clothes and public nudity,(~90 of lewdness and boldness) but they're still wearing clothes. TBH that's my kind of fetish and it would be great to be able to persuade a lot of townsfolks to be naked in the streets
ngl an option for you ask girl to get naked when you want would be great
 
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jeaquedamez

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ngl an option for you ask girl to get naked when you want would be great
lol these are the kinds of things I was trying to get at. I am working on a mod to simply ask people to change their clothes in front of you. I am, however, trying to fit some of the theming for example if you ask your sibling to change their clothes and they don't like incest they might get offended. Similarly if they're not comfortable getting undressed to specific outfits they might turn you down. Trying to take into consideration of current laws and everything as well as where you're asking the person to do this. It's tough work though going through all this but I have made some progress. My only limitation right now is 10 options in the dialog box. It would be nice to add 2 more buttons so we can easily select any of the poses available. There are, however, some problems with this approach since if you ask someone to get naked and they agree to you now have the option to report them if the public nudity law isn't passed so to properly fit that might require some other changes. But this is just from a modding perspective with the given mod tools.
 

Crosse

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lol these are the kinds of things I was trying to get at. I am working on a mod to simply ask people to change their clothes in front of you. I am, however, trying to fit some of the theming for example if you ask your sibling to change their clothes and they don't like incest they might get offended. Similarly if they're not comfortable getting undressed to specific outfits they might turn you down. Trying to take into consideration of current laws and everything as well as where you're asking the person to do this. It's tough work though going through all this but I have made some progress. My only limitation right now is 10 options in the dialog box. It would be nice to add 2 more buttons so we can easily select any of the poses available. There are, however, some problems with this approach since if you ask someone to get naked and they agree to you now have the option to report them if the public nudity law isn't passed so to properly fit that might require some other changes. But this is just from a modding perspective with the given mod tools.
Shii your a savior good luck building that also any luck you can try to slide sex interaction in ? like as the girls to give you head or a quick fuck without having to go through the whole sex interaction.

Edit: i've been meaning to ask will we ever get the secret recipe for the cult or it's useless to try making her like us and just kick her out of the cult and become the leader.
 
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Kodex

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I know it's probably been asked, but is there a way to permanently get rid of an npc? Either via gameplay or via console?
 
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