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The pregnancy checkup event seems pointless (and repetitive). If she didn't immediately disappear from the clinic, it could at least be an opportunity to interact.
 

SirCumalot

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Not sure if it's been asked before, I tried checking the thread, but who is in charge of the sex workers on the streets? I tried consider one for a job, and she said that she doesn't want her boss to hear. Is there someone that exists that I can sour their relationship with?

I did try again in a normal setting, the park, and she still refused. Relationship is 59/100... which should be fine? Are there opinions or triggers that should change? I do have "Sex worker" as an available job posted.

Edit:
Well F me... I just tried again the park, and she accepted an interview. So is it random then? Would still like to know who the boss of the prostitutes is.
 
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DyreMezza

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Not sure if it's been asked before, I tried checking the thread, but who is in charge of the sex workers on the streets? I tried consider one for a job, and she said that she doesn't want her boss to hear. Is there someone that exists that I can sour their relationship with?

I did try again in a normal setting, the park, and she still refused. Relationship is 59/100... which should be fine? Are there opinions or triggers that should change? I do have "Sex worker" as an available job posted.
Noone will accept your offers while they are at work(nurse,teachers,beachworkers etc)...You must talk to them while they are off work.
Try in the morning via contact list,ask them where they are and to meet them and hope they are interested.
 

webrider

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I'll grant you that NPCs who like anal are probably more common than they should be (especially women who like giving anal) but I think you're more offended by it than the average person.

Perhaps adding it as a taboo that can be enabled and disabled like incest and racism might be an idea.
I'm not particularly offened by it, I do consider it vile behavior as is the rape and incest I don't practice. I just think it is what I said it is, the pinnicle of the sex game in heirachy and that isn't representative of reality, and that isn't the pinnicle of sex for most that I have met. I guess it is more popular then say fucking a gunshot wound. BUTT really, pun intended. The rest of the game mechanics seem pretty good. I just think the sex mini game needs a better priority as to what the top is. I don't know what that would be. Sodomy is age old maybe more of the world does that, I guess I only speak for what I have seen in a couple cities in the US.
 

DyreMezza

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I'm not particularly offened by it, I do consider it vile behavior as is the rape and incest I don't practice. I just think it is what I said it is, the pinnicle of the sex game in heirachy and that isn't representative of reality, and that isn't the pinnicle of sex for most that I have met. I guess it is more popular then say fucking a gunshot wound. BUTT really, pun intended. The rest of the game mechanics seem pretty good. I just think the sex mini game needs a better priority as to what the top is. I don't know what that would be. Sodomy is age old maybe more of the world does that, I guess I only speak for what I have seen in a couple cities in the US.
The game has tools:
You can influnce NPCs around you not to like anal,incest or threesomes.
Change or strenghten their opinion of faith,monogamy,vaginal sex,family etc.
I think you can still fun with the game.
 

ydraiggoch

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I guess here should be a video of my masturbating girlfriend. Am I missing such a video or what is supposed to appear here?
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icesavage

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I guess here should be a video of my masturbating girlfriend. Am I missing such a video or what is supposed to appear here?
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So the 'post' should be pulling in a high Z value picture. Z value represents the level of undress. Usually nude which is z10. The character is your girlfriend, so I would think you would notice if you had sex with her and her nude shot doesnt show. Which would mean the picture is corrupted and the game isnt pulling it in correct from your drive. I dont think that is happening though.

Since this is your photo album, I have to ask, did you change the image model of Kendel with "set_image"? The photo album saves pictures with a Zvalue and type. Meaning Z10-nude or Z6-tl. If you did changed her image model then the photo album saved a picture with a Z value + type combo that the new model doesnt have. For example Model 1 has a Z10-nude picture while Model 2 has a Z9-nude picture. The photo album doesnt substitute so the picture is blank.

That right now is the only thing I can think off. If you didnt do that, and you havent used the cheat set_image command and this is just through normal play, then yeah this is a bug.
 
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ydraiggoch

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Kendel is my "sister" and I choose the picture set at her first appereance. In the game itself, not with a console (which i can't open with the designated key?) command.
And you're right, her scw-00341 nude is z9. So that means, if I rename the picture file to z10, then restart the game so the picture were reload, that will fix it?
 

reddwarf45

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The problem is that no matter how many more such different text interactions I add they will become noise in short order and we are back to where we are now. I wish that wasn't the case and there was a way to make them feel different and interesting but not sure how to do that.
I'm not sure what you mean by noise. You already have some stuff in there that just needs to be expanded upon. When someone calls you up for sex and you deny them, they follow up with an explanation for wanting to get pregnant to try and convince you if they want kids. While a little generic as it's something they all say its the right direction for interactions. That type of thing just needs to be in the normal sex interactions as well.

You already have the framework in place for their likes, cum_in, cum_on etc. Instead of "they really enjoyed that." put something else in or find a way to expand upon it. Your game has good bones, but I feel like there's plenty of more potential especially if you took inspiration from LR2.

Personally I want to collect all the NPCs I have work at my club and keep them in the same house.
 

icesavage

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Kendel is my "sister" and I choose the picture set at her first appereance. In the game itself, not with a console (which i can't open with the designated key?) command.
And you're right, her scw-00341 nude is z9. So that means, if I rename the picture file to z10, then restart the game so the picture were reload, that will fix it?

So the 'video' is just a picture. A masturbation video scene can occur with nude, topless, and underwear pose. z3-uw, z6-tl, and z9-nude are common settings. So model 00341 is using the standard. Looking through the savegame data, on my character, i dont actually see a zvalue for saved social media posts. So I may actually be something different then what I thought it was.

This is definitely a bug. Choosing your sister's model occurs before Social Media posts get created. So the creation of the masturbation video should have used the correct picture ID. Something for TotalFluke. Sorry I cant help you.
 
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Ayame

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I guess here should be a video of my masturbating girlfriend. Am I missing such a video or what is supposed to appear here?
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it happens to me sometimes, especially if you check a character you've never seen in that status.
It happens to me mostly like this: click on the thumbnail of a person you don't know (if they're introduced to you or during an interview) to check the status and since you haven't seen it sometimes they don't have an image available (but I think you saw her naked)
 
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icesavage

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in the cheatsheet it is correct.
View attachment 4778652 View attachment 4778669
If it has been changed what is the correct cheat?
Thanks
I am fairly certain that hair length is determined by character image model values and cannot be changed via cheat command.

Every model has a head shot that looks something like this:

Code:
ice-00025-mfmml-lsm-x-head
There is a pdf in your main folder called "SCW character image system" that describes what this lettering means.

In this example, the 5th block on letters, "lsm" describes hair color, length and eye color. the first L is light hair, then S for short hair and then m for medium color eyes.


When you do a "cheat set_image" the game changes the values to correspond to the model automatically. Thus, if you want to change a characters hair length. You need to change the second letter in the 5th block of their head shot. (B=Bald, S=Short, M=Medium, L=Long). If you already have an NPC with that model, you will need to replace the image and then return it with the new value. (Though i think you will need to save and restart the game after the first model replace, the game doesnt allow you to go back to an old model immediately. Also do the replace before the rename or you may run into issues of "model not found").
 

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The AI log showed one owner do a "ask to interview" action it says to one of my singers. My singer didnt take them up on the offer but over 7-8 months later they still didnt have entertainers, so I assumed that they were ignoring everyone else due to being focused on the ones I have, my bad for that.
No, like I said, it happens very infrequently when they were about town and ran into someone and decided to ask them to interview among all the other options they have.

And I was wrong. There's no cheat to hire entertainers which is why that club didn't have one after all that time. I may add that.

The pregnancy checkup event seems pointless (and repetitive). If she didn't immediately disappear from the clinic, it could at least be an opportunity to interact.
Yeah. It will be expanded on later.

Not sure if it's been asked before, I tried checking the thread, but who is in charge of the sex workers on the streets? I tried consider one for a job, and she said that she doesn't want her boss to hear. Is there someone that exists that I can sour their relationship with?

I did try again in a normal setting, the park, and she still refused. Relationship is 59/100... which should be fine? Are there opinions or triggers that should change? I do have "Sex worker" as an available job posted.

Edit:
Well F me... I just tried again the park, and she accepted an interview. So is it random then? Would still like to know who the boss of the prostitutes is.
There's an assumption that everyone has a boss and they don't want to discuss other job opportunities while at work. So just like the coffee shop, gym, diner, etc. employees, the downtown hookers have an unseen boss. Just imagine some pimp that's likes to stay in the shadows. Will think about if it makes sense to remove that restriction from everyone except club employees.

I'm not particularly offened by it, I do consider it vile behavior as is the rape and incest I don't practice. I just think it is what I said it is, the pinnicle of the sex game in heirachy and that isn't representative of reality, and that isn't the pinnicle of sex for most that I have met. I guess it is more popular then say fucking a gunshot wound. BUTT really, pun intended. The rest of the game mechanics seem pretty good. I just think the sex mini game needs a better priority as to what the top is. I don't know what that would be. Sodomy is age old maybe more of the world does that, I guess I only speak for what I have seen in a couple cities in the US.
Well if we are going to start nit picking all the unrealistic things in this game...

Anyway, you can edit the likes.dat file and make the anal_g and anal_r opinions much less common. They are the first two numbers on each line. For anal_g it's set to 50/30 which means that 50% of the people will have a positive opinion of it, 30% will have a negative opinion and 20% will be neutral. For anal_r is set to 30/60. Feel free to change these to 0/100. There will still be a lot of people with no opinion of it, which can't be controlled unfortunately. (And you will need to remember to change this on every update). You can also change the All:-1 to All:-5 on anal_r impact line and add All:-5 to the impact line of anal_g to make it less likely to happen too. Make sure to make a copy of the file before you attempt to edit it.

Kendel is my "sister" and I choose the picture set at her first appereance. In the game itself, not with a console (which i can't open with the designated key?) command.
And you're right, her scw-00341 nude is z9. So that means, if I rename the picture file to z10, then restart the game so the picture were reload, that will fix it?
First of all z9 is fine (it's actually the standard nude z value). That doesn't mean is corrupted. Second, if you haven't seen the person you should see a "masked" image. However, on the social media view, those images are not shown as you can often see posts from people that you know about people you haven't met before and you even get an option to ask to be introduced to them. So I don't think that's it. The blank image means the game tried to show an image and it couldn't. So either the image file is corrupted or it doesn't exist.

Kendel is not a name in the game so you must have edited the save file to do that, so is it possible that something else got messed up on that line? Which if the data in that record is messed up it could lead to it not being able to load the right image file.

So the 'video' is just a picture. A masturbation video scene can occur with nude, topless, and underwear pose. z3-uw, z6-tl, and z9-nude are common settings. So model 00341 is using the standard. Looking through the savegame data, on my character, i dont actually see a zvalue for saved social media posts. So I may actually be something different then what I thought it was.

This is definitely a bug. Choosing your sister's model occurs before Social Media posts get created. So the creation of the masturbation video should have used the correct picture ID. Something for TotalFluke. Sorry I cant help you.
Yeah, the data for photos/posts stores the pose id, which will be just "nude" unless there are two poses with the same key and then it appends the z-value.

in the cheatsheet it is correct.
View attachment 4778652 View attachment 4778669
If it has been changed what is the correct cheat?
Thanks
Check the spelling of length - (I misspell that word more than just about anything, Who decided that height/weight and length be spelled differently?

I am fairly certain that hair length is determined by character image model values and cannot be changed via cheat command.
You can change it. It won't obviously affect the image but you can change it.
 

webrider

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It isn't that exactly: Ie: you want 3 cream pies you have to get them to flip over to them having sex with you. Usually to do that you have to let them fuck you in ass first. Then you can get them to have sex with you using their energy. So you can get 3. Or get 8 sex acts in a 3some by conserving your energy. You should get point for that that translates too them liking you better the better you do or how many times you get them off. Just saying to me it seems anal is the pinical and I think it should be something else to resonate with more people if more people think like I do that anal is a taboo and I play with all the taboos disabled so they are in the game. So I'm not offended I just don't like that point very much so I mention it take it for what it is worth.
That and 7 bucks will get you coffee at xxx, used to be 5 bucks.
 

icesavage

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First of all z9 is fine (it's actually the standard nude z value). That doesn't mean is corrupted. Second, if you haven't seen the person you should see a "masked" image. However, on the social media view, those images are not shown as you can often see posts from people that you know about people you haven't met before and you even get an option to ask to be introduced to them. So I don't think that's it. The blank image means the game tried to show an image and it couldn't. So either the image file is corrupted or it doesn't exist.

Yeah, the data for photos/posts stores the pose id, which will be just "nude" unless there are two poses with the same key and then it appends the z-value.

You can change it. It won't obviously affect the image but you can change it.
I have never bothered with changing hair length or any other non skill or attribute characteristic. I assumed since I cant change m_attr, f_attr, that those values were locked away too. The more you know....

z9 is the default value? I hadnt realized that. I was assuming z10. Time to change somethings on my second Pak.

Soon(tm).
 
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craptastic

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I have never bothered with changing hair length or any other non skill or attribute characteristic. I assumed since I cant change m_attr, f_attr, that those values were locked away too. The more you know....

z9 is the default value? I hadnt realized that. I was assuming z10. Time to change somethings on my second Pak.

Soon(tm).
Male and female attraction CAN be changed via save editing. For example I make all the dudes gay and change whom they're attracted to so they leave my females alone. It also adds some humor to the game.
 

Plasmaballz

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> "Small bug report : i fully trained an singer in singing up to 100. Now when i want to train her in dancing because it's a valid secondary stat for this job, that's the only choice i can make in the "what do you want to train" list, so i pick that.
But when the training start, it reverted to training her in singing, it show me the singing stats again, and i made no progress in dancing."

I thought I had fixed that one. Are you running the last version?
Yes, 1.11 from this site.

Maybe something like that could help (i don't know how to compile it so it's untested... I don't even know the language name to be honest ) :
PHP:
--- tfel/owner_actions/emp_mgmt.tfl-backup      2025-04-26 00:06:28.291847383 +0200
+++ tfel/owner_actions/emp_mgmt.tfl     2025-04-26 00:32:40.585714600 +0200
@@ -533,7 +533,7 @@
     var $ans_o, $ans_e, $job_type, $train_skill, $e_ok;
     var $oc, $o_skill_val, $e_skill_val, $str;
     var $opt_name0, $opt_name1, $opt_name2, $opt_name3, $opt_name4;
-    cont $skills[], $sk_keys[];
+    cont $skills[], $sk_keys[], $sk_keys_filtered[];
     cont $opt[];
     room room:er;
     job job:ej;
@@ -551,6 +551,8 @@
         set $e_skill_val = &get_known_attr(E, $key, 100, O);
         #debug "Got skill " ^ $key ^ " oc=" ^ $oc;
         if($e_skill_val < 100) {
+            # keep track of which keys are shown to the player
+            set $sk_keys_filtered[$oc] = $key;
             set $o_skill_val = &get_attr(O, $key, 100);
             set $str = &training_skill_info($key, E, O, $e_skill_val, $o_skill_val, $skills[$key]);
             set $opt[$oc] = $o_skill_val - $e_skill_val * $skills[$key] * 10 + 5;
@@ -590,7 +592,8 @@
     if($ans_o < $oc) {
         # higher than 100 because we want this to succeed more often
         set $e_ok = &util::base_agree_prob(O, E, 150, 0);
-        set $train_skill = $sk_keys[$ans_o];
+        # player chose a skill in the filtered array
+        set $train_skill = $sk_keys_filtered[$ans_o];
         # make sure E agrees
         set $ans_e = decision E, O {
             choice "yes", $e_ok, "null"
 
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