Collection Flash Video Studio FOW Collection [2023-07-08] [Studio F.O.W]

[Deleted member 324588]

I understand your point, but at least for me It wouldn't bother me if the possible sequels have the same name, because maybe they are not kunoichis but they are related to the first characters (K1-2-3) and also they would continue with the same type of content so it would make some sense to keep the name of the saga, and maybe it would motivate them to maintain the level of the kunoichi saga, especially Kunoichi 3, I say this because Severance with Helena was nice at most, not as good as kunoichi, even the first kunoichi movie has more quality than Severance in my opinion, regarding SFM I understand that maybe it is very complicated to work with that program, and if they have to go ahead and start working with a new engine I will understand, but honestly they did a GREAT job with SFM, all their movies have good quality, even lara in trouble which was the studio's first movie, and for me they reached extremely high levels of quality with kunoichi, especially with K3, without hesitation I can say that this saga has more general quality in animations, emotions etc than other animation created by any independent production company, and I am including 26regionsfm, desiresfm etc ... 26regionsfm make *acceptable* movies but they lack the emotion that the StudioFOW movies has, I really hope they don't forget the content that made them famous and go back to developing movies again.

They've every intention to. Just gotta finish the game commitment first is all.

 

[lord449]

They've every intention to. Just gotta finish the game commitment first is all.

I hope you right!

 

[kampfer91]

So do they ever finish that Subverse game ?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

So do they ever finish that Subverse game ?

Not yet. Games take time to make. Should be clear, just look at all the games on this site that still aren't done yet

 

[DiegoJunior12]

They will never movies again. That game seems a cash cow for them.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

They will never movies again. That game seems a cash cow for them.

*broken record skips*



Besides doubling as their own IP which can't be interfered with like their parody work, the game development doubles as training in the engine for their animators. Which their future films will also be in.

 

[DiegoJunior12]

I read that post to when they post it.

Still believe that the game gives them lots of money for little effort. Even if they would promise making movies again I would doubt it. And by the way the last 2 movies from them were not so good. Just look between Kunoichi 1 and 2. It was a huge step forward. Same for "Nightmare" but after that they drop down. At the moment you have better producers out there.

Why not milking the cash cow?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I read that post to when they post it.

Still believe that the game gives them lots of money for little effort. Even if they would promise making movies again I would doubt it. And by the way the last 2 movies from them were not so good. Just look between Kunoichi 1 and 2. It was a huge step forward. Same for "Nightmare" but after that they drop down. At the moment you have better producers out there.

Why not milking the cash cow?

If they were gonna milk the game, they wouldn't be on schedule updating it. They'd drag their feet, like many game devs have. But a lot of those game devs also have Patreon for monthly income. FOW doesn't. So the only way they can make money at this point is making a product. They've stuck to 3-4 months since committing to it. Game sales aren't infinite, and they'd shoot their own reputation in the foot if they didn't finish what they started. How would they ask for monthly support again if they couldn't finish the backed project?

 

[lord449]

I read that post to when they post it.

Still believe that the game gives them lots of money for little effort. Even if they would promise making movies again I would doubt it. And by the way the last 2 movies from them were not so good. Just look between Kunoichi 1 and 2. It was a huge step forward. Same for "Nightmare" but after that they drop down. At the moment you have better producers out there.

Why not milking the cash cow?

I don't know if they won't make movies again, probably not, and even if they do, waiting 2-3 years more for them seems too much to me, but I don't really agree with you, yes, maybe some of their productions aren't excellent (although yet good) but at least for me they have some of the best 3D porn movies you can find, the WHOLE kunoichi saga is great, and at least for me better than any production that can be found, regardless of the producer, and the last 2 SF movies did have good quality, and one of them was Kunoichi 3, which is possibly the best movie of the studio, do you say that there are better producers out there? I would be grateful if you would tell me who, because I have seen famous production companies like 26region and many others, and some of their movies may have better character design, more realistic, but in my opinion they lack the essence and the emotion and even the animations that studiofow movies have, especially the kunoichi series, in short, some of those movies may have better design but they are BORING! for example the productions of samus from 26region (one of the most popular developers), they are not only boring, the animations are not great, and on top of that the character design is exaggerated which I don't like, almost all XXX 3D animated movies are like that ,Not for nothing there are many people who want the sf movies back, but I'm not very optimistic about it, we'll see

 

[Cyberious]

The guys who expect from Fow to make movies after cash-cow Subverse (which will not die at least until 2026 because there are too many fans of this garbage) remind me of the guys who expected Half-Life 3.
I am sure that even when Subverse will finally die, they'll just announce Subverse-2, or some new "game" in a different setting.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

The guys who expect from Fow to make movies after cash-cow Subverse (which will not die at least until 2026 because there are too many fans of this garbage) remind me of the guys who expected Half-Life 3.
I am sure that even when Subverse will finally die, they'll just announce Subverse-2, or some new "game" in a different setting.

Given the years that's already gone into this, I don't think they'd immediately want to jump into another game project. Also Valve can afford to not do anything cuz they have Steam. They have another revenue stream. FOW doesn't. Pretty good incentive to make other things, ya know.

 

[Cyberious]

Given the years that's already gone into this, I don't think they'd immediately want to jump into another game project. Also Valve can afford to not do anything cuz they have Steam. They have another revenue stream. FOW doesn't. Pretty good incentive to make other things, ya know.

Okay, the future will show which one of us was right

 

[baxt75]

If they were gonna milk the game, they wouldn't be on schedule updating it. They'd drag their feet

It's been 3 years since the funding of 2.25 million dollars and listed funded release date. We can all click to it and look. It's even funny to look at it now since one of the targets at 150k promising "over 30 hours of gameplay". You can't even generously say there's a quarter of that. If it's taken 3 years to get a quarter of the way to that one goal and that's not "dragging their feet" after pulling in over 2 million dollars, you must be one of the people paying into the crowdfunding failures every time and believing everything.

Don't worry. Star Citizen will release in your lifetime.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

It's been 3 years since the funding of 2.25 million dollars and listed funded release date. We can all click to it and look. It's even funny to look at it now since one of the targets at 150k promising "over 30 hours of gameplay". You can't even generously say there's a quarter of that. If it's taken 3 years to get a quarter of the way to that one goal and that's not "dragging their feet" after pulling in over 2 million dollars, you must be one of the people paying into the crowdfunding failures every time and believing everything.

Don't worry. Star Citizen will release in your lifetime.

oh good another one of those comments that believe money = speed. Guess by that logic, all Hollywood movies should be done in a couple months with their budget, right?

I don’t care about Star Citizen, but from what I’ve heard about their development was weighed down by taking in so much crowdfunding, they feature creeped themselves into a snails pace of development. FOW hasn’t set any additional goals beyond what was in the campaign, so that’s already a major difference.

Also regarding playtime, that will very much vary from player to player. Believe it or not, some do actually play the game to play the game, not just ask for a save file to see the smut and then complain about it.

Lastly regarding crowdfunding, this was my first. And it wasn’t a hard decision, considering FOW’s done everything they put their mind to. Even a Blizzard lawsuit didn’t stop them. Pretty easy to keep believing

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

oh good another one of those comments that believe money = speed. Guess by that logic, all Hollywood movies should be done in a couple months with their budget, right?

I don’t care about Star Citizen, but from what I’ve heard about their development was weighed down by taking in so much crowdfunding, they feature creeped themselves into a snails pace of development. FOW hasn’t set any additional goals beyond what was in the campaign, so that’s already a major difference.

Also regarding playtime, that will very much vary from player to player. Believe it or not, some do actually play the game to play the game, not just ask for a save file to see the smut and then complain about it.

Lastly regarding crowdfunding, this was my first. And it wasn’t a hard decision, considering FOW’s done everything they put their mind to. Even a Blizzard lawsuit didn’t stop them. Pretty easy to keep believing

money is speed
because time = money
like
some people are paid by the hour, my brother in christ...

 

[Deleted member 324588]

money is speed
because time = money
like
some people are paid by the hour, my brother in christ...

And whether it’s 12.50 or 25.00 an hour, that doesn’t make a computer render any faster. Or work transfer any faster when the entire team is essentially working remotely around the globe. It’d be one thing if they were all under one roof like most game devs.

 

[Kietsutwinblades]

Well as I've mentioned to others, any potential spinoffs other character probably wouldn't be named Kunoichi. They're not female ninjas, so the term doesn't really fit there. So it'd be more like Severance starring Helena, where its in the universe, but a different title.

The quality of SFM films were good sure, but they were back-breakingly difficult to pull off on such an old unsupported program. It's like forcing a car engine that's already ran for decades to do another cross country trip.

It may seem off in Subverse, but that's a case by case nature, since everyone's running different hardware. And the smut is limited by the nature of it being a game, not a film.

Just have to wait and see. They're not crazy enough to leave behind what put them on the map, they're just not doing it with Subverse, namely to avoid being taken down from Steam.

I'm definitely not as optimistic as you but I still hope you're right and they come back to movies.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I'm definitely not as optimistic as you but I still hope you're right and they come back to movies.

It’s easy to be optimistic when ya keep in mind they’ve finished everything they started. I’ve brought it up before, but a legit lawsuit from Blizzard still didn’t make them shy away from releasing the Yrel film.

While yes there are films that were announced but not finished (yet), we’ll get the rest now in a much better engine than the creaky and unsupported SFM. And with less bumps in the road since they’ll already have years of experience working with the engine via Subverse’s development

 

[lord449]

like KietsuTwinblades, I'm not that optimistic, it won't be the first group that says something and years later reveals that they won't continue with the idea, but I would like them to come back with the movies, they are good at that, another problem is how long we have to wait to see if they really come back, which seems too long to me

 

[Kietsutwinblades]

like KietsuTwinblades, I'm not that optimistic, it won't be the first group that says something and years later reveals that they won't continue with the idea, but I would like them to come back with the movies, they are good at that, another problem is how long we have to wait to see if they really come back, which seems too long to me

You mean you're not excited about waiting 3 years to get another 15 minutes of game animation? *shocked face*