NBV

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Actually, many people went into it clearly unaware of their previous works. This is why you have so many people being surprised over the "NTR" so often. FOW didn't foresee that so many normies would react negativity to this before the game was even released, so they quickly clamored for a solution, but chose a bad one instead.
 

IG88a

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The recent "mixed" reviewers on steam may feel misled about the monster sex (but are probably more flabbergasted by the state of the game) because the steam promotional material can't be as... direct, but most people following the game knew of it's existence since the first launch trailer. Mantic sex was part and parcel, so I agree the real problem is how shittily they handled it's execution.
People here at least are reacting primarily to two things

1. the female hypergamy excuse is cringe and undermines this class of game. Simple as
2. the content is unavoidable on your personal playthough due to game construction

Games like the classic CoC and T.I.T.S. have FAR more intelligent takes on hypergamy, NPC "agency", what have you but it's balanced by one important thing. Player choice. Hell, CoC2 literally has it's first introduced character state plainly she won't be in a monogamous relationship and you get the choice to accept that, stop pursuing her sexually/romantically, or stop using her as a companion entirely. A mix of dialogue prompts and mechanic based choices to tailor content to the players tastes while "respecting her agency." The way the devs and their "fans" use "yeah well we wrote her to fuck mantics" "the "crew" category somehow isn't literally NTR don't look at that!" as if it's a shield just shows they don't have the emotional intelligence to touch these fetishes and frankly shouldn't have tried. Or door number 2, it's all unintended and the justification a total copout of not knowing what the framing of their own pornographic content was and scrambling for an answer.

The thought process for normie and degenerate alike is "That isn't engaging (because I don't want bestiality/because my pure waifus/because it isn't framing mantic sex in an interesting way)" followed by "and you won't let me not be party to it." Inadvertent or no, it's either bad game design or bad plot-companion construction or both. And even now they could still fix these framings instead of circle the wagons where they can censor these conversations.
 
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Dragon x Hunter

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Too much discussion for a game that is just "ok" it is not like it is a new The Witcher 3 (or any game-of-the-year) for adults. Get a break, game can be real good but it is up to the creator and what they do with it. It could turn into a freaking mess or something really good.

(And yeah I paid for the game but asked for a refund because I think the game is not worth the amount they ask)
 

Joshua Tree

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That's your opinion (which you are welcome to) on the issue and potential resolution, but you're flat out factually incorrect on the content - as we've just discussed with screenshots, watching the associated GIF isn't the issue, it is the fact that xeno story content is canon in the game. It is not optional no matter how much you wish it to be.
It's not part of the main story, it doesn't get thrown in your face, you not forced to watch Lilly fornicate with xeno's etc. That you get to know about her prone to do it, is a different tale. Do you go every day think about the past experiences your partner had before meet you too?
 

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3 months between each update is what I expected, 4 months is a bit too long and skip an update per year.

Will see how much content bring the next update.
 
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Joshua Tree

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3 months between each update is what I expected, 4 months is a bit too long and skip an update per year.

Will see how much content bring the next update.
They already addressed the progression on updates and what will come forward. Also with early access games there is no standard in regard of updates. Just as there is no standard in regard of updates for games on this site either. I expect it to rain cash every day, but hey then reality set in.
 

Limited20

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It's not part of the main story, it doesn't get thrown in your face, you not forced to watch Lilly fornicate with xeno's etc. That you get to know about her prone to do it, is a different tale. Do you go every day think about the past experiences your partner had before meet you too?
OK, look the game is probably good. It looks incredible. And all that...

But pls stop playing with words xd

Its not about Lily's past experiences or any of the other girls for that matter. Nobody cares about their past.
But the point is that Lily is doing it NOW, in the present. She is fucking the xeno's now. We just dont see it.
The characters on the ship acknowledge this with dialog. Plus Lily's "endurance tests" with the xenos....

Yes we are not forced to "watch it" but it still happens in the background regardless and is canon.
We are just hoping that the devs will make it avoidable/preventable in the game.
Because we are just as hyped for the game as you are.

I rly like Demi :D
From the screenshots I have seen, it seems she is super naughty and sweet at the same time. Waifu material <3
So I will be keeping an eye on the game and hope for the best
 

Joshua Tree

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OK, look the game is probably good. It looks incredible. And all that...

But pls stop playing with words xd

Its not about Lily's past experiences or any of the other girls for that matter. Nobody cares about their past.
But the point is that Lily is doing it NOW, in the present. She is fucking the xeno's now. We just dont see it.
The characters on the ship acknowledge this with dialog. Plus Lily's "endurance tests" with the xenos....

Yes we are not forced to "watch it" but it still happens in the background regardless and is canon.
We are just hoping that the devs will make it avoidable/preventable in the game.
Because we are just as hyped for the game as you are.

I rly like Demi :D
From the screenshots I have seen, it seems she is super naughty and sweet at the same time. Waifu material <3
So I will be keeping an eye on the game and hope for the best
Remember, these girls, is not your personal property, (well except maybe Demi), they have their own agenda and free will. If Lilly fucked xenos in the past, why shouldn't she in the present? Kilision would be prone to ripp your head off, and she could as far superior to the captain. This is the beauty of the game, you have no control over them, they are their own personalities.

Demi is an AI, a robot... (with a personality). It's in her nature to explore and learn new experiences to evolve right?
 

Limited20

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Remember, these girls, is not your personal property, (well except maybe Demi), they have their own agenda and free will. If Lilly fucked xenos in the past, why shouldn't she in the present? Kilision would be prone to ripp your head off, and she could as far superior to the captain. This is the beauty of the game, you have no control over them, they are their own personalities.

Demi is an AI, a robot... (with a personality). It's in her nature to explore and learn new experiences to evolve right?
Its not about control tho -_-

Its about the girls mindlessly fucking around and we have no way to avoid it. It wold have been fine if it was optional...
This is a major turn off for me and many others.
People just like different stuff. Its a horrible feeling seeing a waifu getting fucked by someone or something with no way to avoid/prevent it. Or knowing that is happening in the background.

Its just comes down to player preference.
 

Razrback16

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It's not part of the main story, it doesn't get thrown in your face, you not forced to watch Lilly fornicate with xeno's etc. That you get to know about her prone to do it, is a different tale. Do you go every day think about the past experiences your partner had before meet you too?
It is part of the story, no matter how much you want to deny it and evidence has already been posted showing that you are just gaslighting.
 

Joshua Tree

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It is part of the story, no matter how much you want to deny it and evidence has already been posted showing that you are just gaslighting.
Okay, point out where in the story when you playing where you get floppy xeno dicks thrown into your face ramming it to the girls...
 

Razrback16

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FOW didn't foresee that so many normies would react negativity to this before the game was even released, so they quickly clamored for a solution, but chose a bad one instead.
hah, that's about the sum of it.

Its not about control tho -_-

Its about the girls mindlessly fucking around and we have no way to avoid it. It wold have been fine if it was optional...
This is a major turn off for me and many others.
People just like different stuff. Its a horrible feeling seeing a waifu getting fucked by someone or something with no way to avoid/prevent it. Or knowing that is happening in the background.

Its just comes down to player preference.
Exactly. It's the shoehorning in of the content into the story without the player getting a choice on it and as NBV mentioned above, it's just a bad solution (using this term loosely) as locking the scenes behind pandora doesn't solve anything if they still have people talking about it happening in dialogue and describing it in the codex, lol.
 

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Funny how wanting to make bestiality optional is a controversial stance
lol, yep. Thing is I haven't seen anyone here proposing making it unavailable for other people if they want it, only stating they'd like an option which is a pretty reasonable stance on something, yet we've got a couple ppl here (the usual suspects) issuing personal attacks, gaslighting and in some cases outright lying about the presence of the content in an effort to misinform and trick new users into thinking the game has different content than it has.
 

Joshua Tree

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lol, yep. Thing is I haven't seen anyone here proposing making it unavailable for other people if they want it, only stating they'd like an option which is a pretty reasonable stance on something, yet we've got a couple ppl here (the usual suspects) issuing personal attacks, gaslighting and in some cases outright lying about the presence of the content in an effort to misinform and trick new users into thinking the game has different content than it has.
Who lie about the content of the game? Quite a difference to tell people what you want to see is optional, because it depend on you as the player unlock the scenes to watch or not, and to tell people there is no such content at all.

Please tell me where in the game do you get that content right in your face without you select to do so?
 

Limited20

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Who lie about the content of the game? Quite a difference to tell people what you want to see is optional, because it depend on you as the player unlock the scenes to watch or not, and to tell people there is no such content at all.

Please tell me where in the game do you get that content right in your face without you select to do so?
If Lilly fucked xenos in the past, why shouldn't she in the present?
And if you trip over because you see a few lines of text that imply characters does x & y
 

Joshua Tree

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Limited20 Did you actually have a point other than quote me or what? You still don't get any of the xeno stuff right in your face while playing. But hey, I guess that is the difference between those that played the game and those just want to troll right?
 
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