Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.0] [Studio Fow]

[Deleted member 4998567]

Some people will just simp. They can't help it.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

VValn likes to defends devs.

Dude you don't have to be a simp to understand how to pace yourself. DEMI has about 15 scenes remaining in her Pandora slot (assuming there is no extra pages they ain't showing us). Devotion has shown to max out at 40. Therefore, whatever is left to fill has to take up those remaining points. And there are still several more mantics to unlock, as well 4 as other ladies.

Is it that difficult to think 'maybe those scenes they haven't added yet are for things we don't have yet?'

 

[Deleted member 324588]

The SOVA main quest content is pretty short in itself too. I don't have any qualms with that but the lack of Pandora scenes for other girls does raise eyebrows here.



Asking why there is a lack of any new content for the other girls is not the same as asking for all of their scenes to be released at once. This argument didn't work on the Discord when you used it and won't work here. I already told you we have an abundance of PP points to scene ratios for some girls. There are easy ways to circumvent this problem anyway. The only reason why you're saying this is because you're always on immediate PR control whenever anyone expresses any kind of disappointment with the game.

You tried doing the same thing in the Discord. If you know the argument worked out so badly for you well there, why would you repeat it here? Your entire stance hinges on a guess and your own ignorance of these things.
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For those who still don't know, Vincent was a mod a long time ago with them. His position was revoked because he was too aggressive with how he defended them and couldn't conduct his moderation in a non-biased way. That is why he continues acting the way he does.

Yeah I'm guessing, so are you. Neither of us has the answer, but I choose to think of it logically rather than just go and call the devs and lazy and the hours of content disappointing. Its a game first, the porn is gonna be second.

And assuming that is you, I gave you a perfectly logical explanation of why Ela's content drop has so many scenes. It was the first one post-launch, with a 7 month gap between release and that update. At the rate the waifus progress, the earliest ones are gonna max devotion quickly, and have more points to spend than scenes to add. And not every scene is gonna be available to buy right off the bat, some require other mantics and waifus to be recruited first.

I cannot comprehend how you could call a 3-4 dev cycle lazy. I have seen so, so many games on this site linger for months, even years without major updates, drip feeding in a side quest at a time. They can't afford to do that, as selling the game is the only way they're making a profit. That's a pretty damn good motivator for continuing to make the thing.

 

[NBV]

There is nothing stopping them from lengthening the Pandora scroll bar and adding more boxes. Just because devotion maxes at 40 doesn't mean we can't have other ways to get more PP points, like through the current mini games. There are easy ways to remedy these non-issues that you're only GUESSING is the reason why we don't have new Pandora scenes.

I know you're ignoring me again, but I'm posting this for others to see.

 

[deiter69]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

 

[Deleted member 324588]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

The earliest girls only have a limited amount of scenes left to add, with 4 girls to recruit and several mantics to create. It is likely those remaining scenes feature later content. Not every scene is gonna warrant a retarget (which is not as simple as a copy/paste).

 

[zayn zidel]

Been waiting on GOG. Any news for when the update will drop?

 

[NBV]

Yeah I'm guessing, so are you. Neither of us has the answer, but I choose to think of it logically rather than just go and call the devs and lazy and the hours of content disappointing. Its a game first, the porn is gonna be second.

No, you chose to talk out of your ass as usual and act as though your guess is more than just what it is. The people you were replying to in the Discord never called anyone lazy, so what's your excuse for repeating the same nonsense in those situations? It doesn't matter how harsh, kind, or reasonable someone's opinions on the game is; you will always meet them with the same cult-like defense.

And assuming that is you, I gave you a perfectly logical explanation of why Ela's content drop has so many scenes. It was the first one post-launch, with a 7 month gap between release and that update.

Your response is not logical, because it's misinformed. More than 40% of those Pandora scenes in the Ela update and in previous one's have been simple model swaps. It does not take a whole day to swap Demi's model of her getting bukkake'd with Lily's for example. It is LITERALLY just swapping out the files, since Lily, Demi, and Kili have the same bone files. Their body types are extremely similar too, which means clipping is a non-issue. Even if clipping was, it would only require a limb slightly some pixels to avoid it.

This right here is the same exact pose and animation being used on both characters. It would only take 5 minutes to swap the model files and them everything applied to the new one.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Been waiting on GOG. Any news for when the update will drop?

That'll depend on GOG to review and approve at this point.

 

[echo32]

Dude you don't have to be a simp to understand how to pace yourself. DEMI has about 15 scenes remaining in her Pandora slot (assuming there is no extra pages they ain't showing us). Devotion has shown to max out at 40. Therefore, whatever is left to fill has to take up those remaining points. And there are still several more mantics to unlock, as well 4 as other ladies.

Is it that difficult to think 'maybe those scenes they haven't added yet are for things we don't have yet?'

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

 

[The.xx]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

I'm going to take a guess and say this is likely because Sova being a shortstack makes it harder for them to reuse the same animations with other characters.

They should have made one or two animations for them though, if that were the case. Not having anything new (except for Sova) after four and a half months sucks.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

There is nothing stopping them from lengthening the Pandora scroll bar and adding more boxes. Just because devotion maxes at 40 doesn't mean we can't have other ways to get more PP points, like through the current mini games. There are easy ways to remedy these non-issues that you're only GUESSING is the reason why we don't have new Pandora scenes.

I know you're ignoring me again, but I'm posting this for others to see.

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

 

[NBV]

The earliest girls only have a limited amount of scenes left to add, with 4 girls to recruit and several mantics to create. It is likely those remaining scenes feature later content. Not every scene is gonna warrant a retarget (which is not as simple as a copy/paste).

Vincent right now is looking at these 15 left over boxes, and through his own ignorance, thinks it's impossible for StudioFow to simply add more to these spaces. That is why he has this odd assumption that people asking why these girls didn't have more scenes this update. He really thinks it means StudioFow must be locked to these 15 slots and there's no way for them to go further than that.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

I certainly understand that hesitation. But unlike Star Citizen, Subverse didn't take in tons of additional funding which added a ton of feature creep problems. They also don't have a Patreon to pull in monthly income anymore like say Wild Life (which pulls in 5 digits on Patreon to this day, but still launched a Kickstarter...that failed). So their only profit comes from selling the game on Steam and GOG. Which is good motivation to actually finish the thing.

 

[NBV]

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

I'm not suggesting. I'm saying it's easy to do and doesn't require new coding. It's a literal copy + paste job or changing the number to add more. You don't know what you're talking about.

If you're exclusively referring to the devotion thing, why can't we just keep having them "level up" that doesn't give combat points but continue giving PP? The point is that you're acting as though this is some impossible to change task, when it's not. What's worse is that you won't even allow people to even talk about these things within Subverse's own discord. You quickly chime in to shut them down and act as though you know more.

EDIT: There are people even in the Discord who dislike you for this behavior. Those who still enjoy the game in high regards simply don't like how often you act like a know it all. You're not a mod anymore and they never paid you to endlessly defend them to begin with. It's one thing to have a debatable opinion or argument, and it's another to do it when your usually 100% wrong on these game dev things.

 

[NBV]

So anyway, I completed Ela's main quest content. I'll give a small review of it later. Here's a quick save for people. It has most/all of the part 1 Sova update's missions completed and only the main quest to unlock Sova completed for the part 2 update. The rest of the missions are left open for you all the play with. All the girls have either 99 or around 80 PP points. Everyone but Sova has all her scenes unlocked, but you can use the 99 PP points to unlock the rest yourself. The new Mantic is unlocked too.

 

[Dragon x Hunter]

I think we really should review the product as a whole, now that I think about it, every update comes with good and bad stuff, even I bought the freaking game because I have hopes for it on the long run.

 

[NBV]

I bought the game and stuck with it because I want to hope it can improve in the long run. It was a massive disappointment at launch and has made some improvements in some areas, and some... not so improved additions in others. There will always be unreasonable people making useless comments. There will always be the ass kissers that take everything dished at them with a smile. What tends to turn reasonable people sour is the latter group being the one's who the moderators constantly side with, which means even reasonable and informed discussion on these subjects can easily get shut down and ignored. Subverse's feedback first gets curated by their mods, so a lot of it heavily depends on how unbiased a mod is about something. It's not hard to see how that can put people on edge.

 

[Mighty1]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

 

[echo32]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

Nope, gotta wait till someone does. Can be any minute or months.