PayneToTheMax

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When I was talking about complains about missable scenes I wasn't saying about Subverse because as you said, Subverse has none. I was talking about complains in other games vs complains about Pandora in Subverse.
That's a bit of an odd comparison because Subverse probably has way more eyes on it in general (because they actively market the game on YouTube or dumbasses like Tim Poole running involuntary advertising by trying to sue the devs) vs. the majority of other games. There isn't really a proper equivalent to Subverse in that regard. Maybe because other developers lack the sheer audacity of Studio FOW to market an obvious porn game on websites such as YouTube. I do get your point, though.

But I have to look at it realistically and try to see it from their side of things. They have a limited budget. They have no Patreon. Whether you want to say they should’ve just taken in more money is besides the point, they chose not to because it would bloat their goals and extend the wait even longer. The script was done before EA even began.
You raise an interesting point as far as budget goes. The game made, what, just shy of 2 million on Kickstarter and then I don't know how much EA money to fund the development. Which sounds like a lot, but honestly isn't for a company. 2 million is chump change in the business world, and who the fuck knows what fees they had to pay over in Britain. Having a set budget you have to make do with is in and of itself harder than having constant patreon money influx (see all the projects who are stuck in development hell due to exactly that practice), and more budget =/= a better product. As can be seen by all the 250+ million dollar budget failures being released these days.
 
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That's a bit of an odd comparison because Subverse probably has way more eyes on it in general (because they actively market the game on YouTube) vs. the majority of other games. There isn't really a proper equivalent to Subverse in that regard. Maybe because other developers lack the sheer audacity of Studio FOW to market an obvious porn game on websites such as YouTube. I do get your point, though.
I was talking per capita.
 
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I think you are speaking generally here because I never talked about some of these things you brought up.

I also agree that I don't think with a business in mind and I never followed the development that deeply. I just knew there is Subverse coming and saw it pop up here and there. Never have I supported the game by monetization but I was willing to buy a copy if I found a site that allowed it if the game was fun....however as a person who went into the game basically blind this game is a huge dissapointment because my expectations were different what the game ultimately would be.

Could I have avoided that by gathering more information? Possibly. But then again I would have never even downloaded the game.

Yet the demand for 290+ scenes to be also crammed into it and given context is somehow the solution for many people.
It would have been THE solution yes.
What's the difference making the scene for pandora or integrate it organically into the story? Even you can't answer me that.

You speak of limited budget but with this limited budget they were able to cram all the scenes into pandora. I would have preferred they cut corners (yeah I know) but then be able to create a more cohesive porn project.

Many, many people would have generated more goodwill who got a more immersive experience and are willing to support the project even further with possible DLCs.

But we got what we got. Many people are pissed. The devs knew that. You knew that and thats the legacy of Subverse. I doubt that the devs wanted it for their passion project.

Because I doubt people were like "yay, at last we have 20+hours of mediocre plot and gameplay"
We kinda have whole non-porn gaming industry for that.
Haha yeah.
Thats also a point of view they forgot to look at.
 
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Holy shit, this shit still exists? I thought this pathetic "comedy" was abandoned a long time ago. And here some clowns explain that if a game has animations, then it is a priori better than RPG games with 2D graphics, lmao. Go look at Black Souls 2. The game was made by one person and it took 3 years, there are a lot of plot forks, endings, hentai in the end. And here a bunch of soy "animators" decided that they are fucking awesome game developers, but it turned out that they are just bullshits.
To think someone would unironically accuse Studio FOW of being soyboys. Fucking lol.
 

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It would have been THE solution yes.
What's the difference making the scene for pandora or integrate it organically into the story? Even you can't answer me that.
Unironically? It's more work. Because the people writing it would have to adjust things accordingly, which in turn would then have to be further integrated into the game via dialogue, which would be voiced, which would mean you'd have to pay the VA's more etc. And I honestly have no idea how their monetary situation actually looked by the end of this. For all we know they're just barely scraping by and couldn't actually afford any of these ideas you're bringing up.
 
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Unironically? It's more work. Because the people writing it would have to adjust things accordingly, which in turn would then have to be further integrated into the game via dialogue, which would be voiced, which would mean you'd have to pay the VA's more etc. And I honestly have no idea how their monetary situation actually looked by the end of this. For all we know they're just barely scraping by and couldn't actually afford any of these ideas you're bringing up.
Fair enough.

Maybe not the 290+ scenes Mr. Weeaboo mentioned but at least a bigger bulk of them. Are there even that many pandora scenes? This number seemes a bit high ngl.

Maybe loose the voiced lines for unimportant dialogue.
Anyway but the thing is through. I try to simmer out a bit and I am sure I forget the game in the next days to come again.

A shame really.
 
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any idea how to do that?
I've tried cheat engining my way in, but so far I only got Blue Balls XP (lol)
don't worry, keep progressing the main story, the blueballs XP will be transferred over when you reach a certain condition/point in the story.
 

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Well, they went pretty tame on this game. Nothing even remotely non-vanilla
If your company’s future depended on a game being sold and you put in content that got it removed from steam, I don’t think you’d chance it either.
 

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If your company’s future depended on a game being sold and you put in content that got it removed from steam, I don’t think you’d chance it either.
I heard Steam is pretty ok with patches that add back content that is cut out to fit their rules.
 

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At least they could have added more fetishes. Why cant i make demi into absolute fuckmachine with nipple-pussies, navel-pussy, face-pussy, ass-pussy, cervix-pussy and all other weird stuff you can find in dark corner of pixiv.
Or nothing so extreme. But still some form of bodymods are totally popular theme.
 
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If your company’s future depended on a game being sold and you put in content that got it removed from steam, I don’t think you’d chance it either.
So they are literally soy degenerates. Steam has games with rape, moral degradation and a bunch of other fetishes that are not deleted, lmao. Steam even has games with NTR and incest, for example games from ACEROLA
 

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So they are literally soy degenerates. Steam has games with rape, moral degradation and a bunch of other fetishes that are not deleted, lmao.
And I’d bet they all have support sites like Patreon or SS to help cushion things if they ever got into trouble. Kinda making my point, m8

This’ll be funny to come back to whenever they make another film in UE and its back to basics Kunoichi style so to speak.
 

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And I’d bet they all have support sites like Patreon or SS to help cushion things if they ever got into trouble. Kinda making my point, m8

This’ll be funny to come back to whenever they make another film in UE and its back to basics Kunoichi style so to speak.
well at least they can try source 2 lol
 

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Is the fortune ruined makeup scene from the trailer in the game or was that something they just forget about?
Ruined makeup with body writings is her Max devotion (lvl 40) costume that you can apply to any pandora scene with her. As for the scene itself, i can't say as i didn't watch the trailer.
 

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And I’d bet they all have support sites like Patreon or SS to help cushion things if they ever got into trouble. Kinda making my point, m8

This’ll be funny to come back to whenever they make another film in UE and its back to basics Kunoichi style so to speak.
I understand that Western suckers are used to the fact that every idiot who thinks he's a game developer milks them on Patreon and other crap for losers, but in the rest of the world it's customary to release a game first and then sell it, and not the other way around. As the vast majority of Japanese developers do.
 

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Well, they made pretty good videos, but as game developers they are no good. This is exactly the kind of game that you don't want to play even for the H-content in it, which is pretty mediocre by the way. These attempts at games would be funny if they weren't so sad, because because of it, those very videos on which their popularity was built stopped being created.
 

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well at least they can try source 2 lol
No it’s unreal now, that was one of the benefits of making the game. Now instead of like Lara in Trouble level made films, they’ll already have years of experience with the engine. And with a less shitty program like SFM xD
 

PayneToTheMax

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Fair enough.

Maybe not the 290+ scenes Mr. Weeaboo mentioned but at least a bigger bulk of them. Are there even that many pandora scenes? This number seemes a bit high ngl.

Maybe loose the voiced lines for unimportant dialogue.
Anyway but the thing is through. I try to simmer out a bit and I am sure I forget the game in the next days to come again.

A shame really.
Yeah, it is what it is ultimately.

Well, they went pretty tame on this game. Nothing even remotely non-vanilla
Now I don't know where you hail from, but where I'm from the whole alien mutant bestiality thing isn't exactly what people would consider vanilla.
 
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