Have no point here. Its not a roleplaying game.concept of roleplaying
Probably dont like this game.people who like NTR
Have no point here. Its not a roleplaying game.concept of roleplaying
Probably dont like this game.people who like NTR
Ah, you got me with your amazing ability of missing the point and thinking everything revolves around you.Ahh... my shit was being flipped XD
In fact, I wrote multiple pages about it...
Wait... no... that didn't happen.
I'm actually just having a calm discussion with someone over the span of two posts.
The concept of roleplaying and the genre of RPG are different things.Have no point here. Its not a roleplaying game.
Probably dont like this game.
I feel like you're being curt and dismissive of my statements when I repeatedly said the game wasn't NTR in the first place.Probably dont like this game.
Thinking everything revolves around me?Ah, you got me with your amazing ability of missing the point and thinking everything revolves around you.
Yes, YOU are having a calm discussion. But in your post, you accused me of being unreasonable for expecting people to not care about the whole "sleeping around" thing, argueing that it's "just fantasy".
So, again I ask, if it is just fantasy, why is it necessary that, in pretty much any game where women have even just a chance of sleeping around, people need to fill page after page of angry posts about how it?
Is this true?any game where women have even just a chance of sleeping around, people need to fill page after page of angry posts about how it?
I will somewhat disagree with you on this, I like NTR but I don't project onto the character nor self insert. My approach towards games and role-playing in general is that I look at it as what would that character do as opposed to what would I do in that situation, hence probably why I don't quite understand the overly attachment to specific things? It could be just a me thing.By your argument, NTR and the concept of roleplaying literally doesn't exist.
I feel like people who like NTR probably don't agree with you.
I like NTR and I don't dislike this game, for now it's extremely underwhelming but doesn't mean I dislike it. The update at the end of the month (depending on the amount of content) is what might end up cementing my overall opinion of the game since I doubt much in the game will change after that update. Also I like other genres besides NTR, including vanilla.Probably don't like this game.
Yes and no, in any game where one controls a male protagonist there will always be a few people that complain if any if the girls end up being someone that sleeps around but to be fair I have seen people complain in games that have a female protagonist about the fact that the character you are controlling is female and they would prefer it if the game had a male protagonist. Some people just like to complain.Is this true?
That's the same thing.I play them with the mindset of how would Batman approach this situation as opposed to what would I do here if I was Batman
I think you misunderstood what he said.I will somewhat disagree with you on this, I like NTR but I don't project onto the character nor self insert.
By that logic, it is literally impossible for any work to be NTR.If you feel cucked, you are self-inserting too hard.
Hmmm... This is a different discussion, but I'll take the bait.Also also there's the fact that for some of us fiction is fiction and reality is reality, just because one might like NTR or other questionable kinky stuff in fiction doesn't mean they are into it irl — let's keep these two things very separated xD. I notice that at times these 2 things tend to get blurred a bit in discussions.
Well, let me try to spice up the topic again I guess, lol.And there goes another 2 pages worth of 'what is NTR 101' lol. All while the content that's perceived as such but isn't is totally optional to unlock *continues munching popcorn*
Well, it would appear that this "theory" of mine was shared by the overwhelming majority of forum members who voted on that poll. I made it specifically to find out if it was just me "reading too much into things" or misunderstanding the meaning of that stretch goal, but nope:Side note: Man you leave the forum for a couple days, and somebody already whipped up a theory on what the cinematic milestone meant? Game with porn, not a porn game. Said it before, say it again.
42 votes isn't really saying that much. And who knows, perhaps there are lewd cinematic scenes. Given Ela's bio that she's a famous porn star, it wouldn't shock me if the first cutscene we see of her is her masturbating in her prison cellWell, let me try to spice up the topic again I guess, lol.
Well, it would appear that this "theory" of mine was shared by the overwhelming majority of forum members who voted on that poll. I made it specifically to find out if it was just me "reading too much into things" or misunderstanding the meaning of that stretch goal, but nope:
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Finally, there's no way that you of all people, VincentValentine, who spent hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on FOW's most hardcore productions back during their Patreon days and even appeared in their end credits, can convince me that you expected a "game with porn, not a porn game" lol. I remember you even admitted that you expected more from the whole Pandora system back when the game was first released, so it just seems to me you are trying too hard to defend studio FOW, whom you have spent so much time and money supporting. It's OK to point out misleading claims and mistakes made by the studio even as a supporter, as otherwise they would just be stuck in an echo chamber and have no incentive to improve.
Ah, but surely you know 42 is the ultimate number that can answer the meaning of life, the universe and everything (including hentai)42 votes isn't really saying that much. And who knows, perhaps there are lewd cinematic scenes. Given Ela's bio that she's a famous porn star, it wouldn't shock me if the first cutscene we see of her is her masturbating in her prison cell![]()
I agree that that the studio have stated that they are going to make "improvements", but just like another forum member posted some time ago, they have been so vague and infrequent in their communcation with backers that we still have no idea how exactly they plan to improve the smut parts. They mentioned an "evolution" of Pandora (yeah, that totally clears things up lol) and even tiny bit about "integrating more sex into the main story" with the new Elaisha recruitment mission, but weren't the existing recruitment missions already the only thing vaguely resembling some kind of context-driven scenes? How exactly are they improving on that? No one knows.Yes I've said the pandora system didn't impress early, that isn't in debate. But they've stated why it was so barebones, and what they're looking to improve on it. So until we see said improvements, which won't be til after the Ela update, what is there to discuss?
As low-budget as those games are, there's something to be said about how those technical limitations inspired their creators to be, well, creative. The context, set-up and erotic writing during those simple static CG scenes make them much more effective than anything we have seen in Subverse so far in my opinion. Just look at games like "Noxian Nights" and "Kingdom of Deception" as an example. It's a shame to see that a studio with so much experience in movie production and such a large budget can't seem to appreciate the importance of propely setting up those fancy Unreal Engine scenes (or should I say gifs).I totally wanted something I could enjoy as a full game, not just something built on RPGmaker that uses the same menu and gameplay systems, not just a visual novel with flat images and binary choices that lead to good or bad endings, not just a match-3 game for a single lewd image.
Regarding communication, the team has been small, so time taken to talk to the public is time not spent on the game. There were plenty of interviews during the campaign, but none after. They have admitted their faults in the last diary update, so we can only hope that'll change now that they're back on track.Ah, but surely you know 42 is the ultimate number that can answer the meaning of life, the universe and everything (including hentai)
I agree that that the studio have stated that they are going to make "improvements", but just like another forum member posted some time ago, they have been so vague and infrequent in their communcation with backers that we still have no idea how exactly they plan to improve the smut parts. They mentioned an "evolution" of Pandora (yeah, that totally clears things up lol) and even tiny bit about "integrating more sex into the main story" with the new Elaisha recruitment mission, but weren't the existing recruitment missions already the only thing vaguely resembling some kind of context-driven scenes? How exactly are they improving on that? No one knows.
As low-budget as those games are, there's something to be said about how those technical limitations inspired their creators to be, well, creative. The context, set-up and erotic writing during those simple static CG scenes make them much more effective than anything we have seen in Subverse so far in my opinion. Just look at games like "Noxian Nights" and "Kingdom of Deception" as an example. It's a shame to see that a studio with so much experience in movie production and such a large budget can't seem to appreciate the importance of propely setting up those fancy Unreal Engine scenes (or should I say gifs).
There is a moment in human life when you no longer need pictures between the text to enjoy reading. Be aware that since most people here are 18+ based on the theme of this forum there are more words than pictures or emotes during the discussions. For whatever the reason it seems to be an issue for you so let me offer you a place where you will probably find something that will interest you more than sitting here:...and we're back to the walls of text![]()
Shorter, concise statements that are on point and easy to understand shows that someone is taking the time to curate their thoughts. Having a brain explosion of text that rambles on doesn't show maturity in my opinion. This is why people joke about walls of text.Why is having more text in a forum discussion bad...? Are we not all adults?
Yeah nothing quite like an adult game to bring out the philosophical speeches, eh?...and we're back to the walls of text![]()
I mean...you can still comment there about the update. The update just isn't posted there.Yeah, Studio FOW is getting a lot of feedback alright! Mostly from steam discussions and their discord. Everything is good, the game is awesome it seems because thanks to moderating these platform there is no more negative feedback, it somehow disappeared along with the users who posted it.
KS's updates now look like this:
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Because somehow platform on which your game was funded is not a place good enough to post updates. I am also sure it has nothing to do with being unable to moderate comments on KS.
Damn, that showed meThere is a moment in human life when you no longer need pictures between the text to enjoy reading. Be aware that since most people here are 18+ based on the theme of this forum there are more words than pictures or emotes during the discussions. For whatever the reason it seems to be an issue for you so let me offer you a place where you will probably find something that will interest you more than sitting here:
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It seems I did. Another advice, "grown ups" do not complain about people writing longer messages just because some people are too lazy to read them.Damn, that showed meand here I thought that it's the "grown ups" that don't waste their time typing walls of useless shit on a porn forum of all places, you destroyed me with that logic
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