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From one of the devblogs...

"Tibor

Following my epic failure and my colossal downfall as the international ambassador of Subverse in East Asia, as some of you might remember I was dismissed from the project lead position. As Alexander Graham Bell once said: "When one door closes, another opens". Well I am happy to report that now I am a junior Unreal Engine developer on the Subverse project.

In terms of career progression it is a rather unusual path as some of the senior developers could be my grandchildren - that’s how old I am
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If your skills is on the level of a junior dev.... basically a intern..... imagine new more skilled talent get taken aboard right?
Maybe they should have focused on skilled talent instead of their original excuse to hire younger people?
 
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Joshua Tree

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But you also ignored the part where I said they had devs working on both projects at the same time, and we know this because one of the lead Devs is also a lead for the Zovolt/Streembit. Tibor was both the lead developer of the Fowcoin blockchain that IS in the works, the CTO and director of publishing Subverse and it's business, and the founder of Zovolt, along with it's creation of Streembit. They claimed that both projects are entirely independant, but have multiple devs in small and high positions who were working on both projects, which is likely why the game's development was scattered.



They started making dev diaries like this and such:

When you prioritize younger talent or any kind of talent based on physical attributes, it means that even those more skillful may be less likely to be hired, because their past the physical attribute you were looking for. In this case, they wanted younger people, which meant older people who could have been more skillful had the chance of being overlooked. This is all because of their original dev being some out of touch weirdo that thought the problem wasn't their lack of things like roadmaps, but their age. It absolutely couldn't have been their decisions that was bad, it had to be something out of their control.

Let's not forget to mention you either lied or was just misinformed that Fowcoin was just a concept and not already in development. They confirmed this on their discord and forum post. It's been in development. Streembit exists to host their Blockchain.
You are also limited by what people want to work on and with. Working on such adult games is not everyones cup of tea. Younger talent in the industry is more prone to jump on such a chance than someone that might feel it could put a dump on their cv. When you hire talent (or anyone) for whatever job, hire someone that is actually interested in the project and the job other than just cash a paycheck is a big pluss too.

As for Streembit... Streembit LTD is listed as the Publisher of Subverse.... So for what purpose Streembit exists.. well, seems to be several things.
 

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You are also limited by what people want to work on and with. Working on such adult games is not everyones cup of tea. Younger talent in the industry is more prone to jump on such a chance than someone that might feel it could put a dump on their cv.
Then you don't hire people who have big limitations on what kind of things they want to touch, since it just limits your own production flow by having people who you can't turn to for things. And let's not pretend there aren't lots of devs who would be willing to work on these kind of things, please.

Younger talent in the industry is more prone to jump on such a chance than someone that might feel it could put a dump on their cv.
And you know this how? We already have lots of existing adult game devs of all age groups doing this stuff. Where are you getting this info from?

When you hire talent (or anyone) for whatever job, hire someone that is actually interested in the project and the job other than just cash a paycheck is a big pluss too.
No shit, why would you hire someone not interested in the project? Why even mention this? Who said anything otherwise? The point is that they emphasized age as an excuse and pointed at hiring younger people as priority. You bringing up all these things does not change that fact. It's their own statements. People new Tibors was out of touch for a long time based on things he said. It had nothing to do with his age, it was him not being fit. It took months for them or himself to finally accept that and replace his role with someone else.

As for Streembit... Streembit LTD is listed as the Publisher of Subverse.... So for what purpose Streembit exists.. well, seems to be several things.
Tibor is the founder and lead dev of Zovolt, which Streembit is created from. Streembit is the platform Fowcoin is going to use for its blockchain. Tibor is the lead dev of Fowcoin. Come on, this is not hard to grasp. Fowcoin was meant to be their future currency to be used on Streembit and Zovolt. It's pretty simple.
 

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NVB Start contact a bunch of people in the industry and ask them if they interested in work on a adult game with lot of lewd stuff. It's a bit like contact random actors and ask if they interested in star in porn... It carries a bit of stigma. Just as a lot of the creators of adult games on patreon (this site etc), don't tell their family what they are doing. There is people of all ages in the industry that work on lewd stuff, but that doesn't mean you have carte blanche when it come to hire talent.

Those with several projects on their CV have it easier to get work in the main stream industry, those that doesn't have a harder time and would be more prone to work on adult stuff. Because... bills need to be paid..

As for they spent x & y on whatever. Until you can pull something out of your ass other than stinky fingers, and bring forth something substantional that would back up your claims, its just smelly fingers right?
 

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NVB Start contact a bunch of people in the industry and ask them if they interested in work on a adult game with lot of lewd stuff. It's a bit like contact random actors and ask if they interested in star in porn... It carries a bit of stigma. Just as a lot of the creators of adult games on patreon (this site etc), don't tell their family what they are doing. There is people of all ages in the industry that work on lewd stuff, but that doesn't mean you have carte blanche when it come to hire talent.

You're making it sound like there are potential celebs avoiding this game to not hurt their rep or some shit.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Most of the devs on subverse use pen names. There are plenty of NSFW artists, voice actors, and and modelers on Twitter right now just taking commission work. Some of Subverse's current waifu VA's were originally taking NSFW audio commissions on Twitter before getting their job on the team. You sound just like Tibor's right now, talking out of your ass and being completely out of touch with the actual climate of the NSFW community. There are multiple sites even dedicated to getting NSFW artists, voice actors, etc. Then again, the way you both tend to talk about other games and even get stuff about Subverse wrong in your brash attempts at debunking statements have long proved that.

Why is it that the well of talent is only scarce when directly speaking about Subverse issues? Every time we talk about Subverse you two act like we're in some different reality:

  1. We bring up lackluster reviews coming in after the game's first hyped up month of EA, you guys bring up the chinese review bombs years later, but won't acknowledge all the positive meme reviews made by people who played the game for only 30 minutes.
  2. I bring up their crypto, you randomly jump in to claim it's only a concept, despite FOW saying multiple times on their discord and forum post it's already off the ground and in development.
  3. We mention how much funding they get, you guys suddenly pretend that over 4 million dollars is absolutely nothing. It is for an AAA mainstream game, but that's not what they are. No other porn game has gotten that much that early to work with, not even counting the funds they had before the Kickstarter went up. You'll then move the goalpost that they're not professional, despite them still getting double the amount of other non-professional AND professional devs who have done more.
  4. Someone even mentions another game and you two will proceed to talk out of your ass about said games with next to zero knowledge of them, such as the Illusion argument we had, where you literally pulled up the wiki and made guesses to form your arguments.
The list can go on. It's just a constant stream of goalpost moving and circle jerking each others comments. How many times have we seen you guys repeat that everyone here must not know that development costs money, despite you both getting hit with the same rebuttal and losing every time. You just reach, reach reach. Now we're at you pretending there's nobody trying to start a business off their SFW content?

NVBAs for they spent x & y on whatever. Until you can pull something out of your ass other than stinky fingers, and bring forth something substantional that would back up your claims, its just smelly fingers right?
You mean like how you constantly make excuses for them based on ideas you've pulled out of your ass? Why don't YOU contact a bunch of the talent and ask them what their opinions are, since you're the one not substantiating anything but speaking for everyone. Haven't you realized that most of my posts arguing with you have been in direct response to you and VV just thinking of what may have happened and then stating them as true to shut others down? I only even brought up the crypto and funding things because you two were trying to pull the little funding argument again. I wouldn't have brought up their 4 million in funds if you two didn't try this same tired argument.
 
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Joshua Tree

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You mean like how you constantly make excuses for them based on ideas you've pulled out of your ass? Why don't YOU contact a bunch of the talent and ask them what their opinions are, since you're the one not substantiating anything but speaking for everyone. Haven't you realized that most of my posts arguing with you have been in direct response to you and VV just thinking of what may have happened and then stating them as true to shut others down? I only even brought up the crypto and funding things because you two were trying to pull the little funding argument again. I wouldn't have brought up their 4 million in funds if you two didn't try this same tired argument.
I don't make claims about them doing x & y with whatever money they got. I did link to industry standards when it come to sallary for devs. Consider their team size, past and present, and how many years they been going at it, and time until probably completion. The money throw around isn't really that much in the grand scheme of things.

The crypto thing haven't even materialized. If you google the cost of create blockchain/crypto, it doesn't even require that much, but the whole thing is moth as its not even a thing yet, if it ever will be.
 

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Who do you bet on for next girl introduced in the next update ?
Not much of a bet, its definitely Sova. The last bit of dialogue in the current update has Fortune and Erark telling the Captain to go recruit the final team member. Since they obviously aren't referring to the lady in the current conversation, and Huntress and Blythe are still enemies, its pretty apparent.
 

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They doing a 1 year anniversary giveaway where you can win a key to either gog or steam version. Join their discord for more info on that.
 

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I THINK this is the right one of my saves to share. It should have like 80+ PP points for every girl but Taron. All Mantics and scenes are unlocked. There are some a bunch of missions left incomplete for you to test things out in.
where to put this?
 

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Two things in this universe are certain: entropy and the fact that no matter what FOW does, haters will always find another excuse to hate.
 

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anyone who believes what anyone at fow says at face value or thinks anyone on that team is capable of keeping to any kind of timetable needs to be reminded that they promised a metroid animation was on the horizon 7 years ago and it still has not dropped lol
It was never that close. It’s basically at the back of the line because they want to make it the biggest of their films. Same reason the Witcher Project got pushed, SFM just wouldn’t do them justice.
 
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