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Can not complete combat training, last monster doesn' move. After couple reloads half of the screen became white.
They sold this game on Steam? For real?
 

Readerf2b

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This is not to make 100 more renders a month like they do to renpy games
So in two months they have nothing to show even as a teaser. I'm now inclined to think that their early access was actually all that they were able to produce, all other chapters are not unfinished, they aren't even started to make them.
You're aware this is not gonna be a chapter by chapter release. They plan on releasing large sections of the game at a time. That doesn't get done instantly.
They hadn't even posted update schedule. Should I wait for a couple of years before starting to have doubts about their abilities to uphold their promises of finishing the game?
 
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I just bought this game on Steam and I'm actually enjoying it so far. I'm a huge XCOM fan so I'm loving the isometric battles (the space battles not so much). I see the $30 as an investment, when I look at the quality of the game so far I'm in good spirits I'll be getting good returns. Even if the sex scenes are a bit lacking right now...

Seeing games like this, Crisis Point and Future Fragments makes me real excited for the future of adult games. Imagine getting quality games like Mass Effect but it's actually a smut game at heart lol
As an X-com fan, how can you enjoy this watered down trash tier tactical combat? There are no cover mechanics, no accuracy, no zone of control, no terrain, no troop management, no customization, waves spawning in random tiles, small "map," repetitive enemies, and the list goes on. It's literally a joke. The ship battles fare a little bit better, but that's also repetitive and basic with very little room for growth with the current system.

If the sex scenes were only "a bit lacking," we might even excuse this shitty gameplay. The porn aspect is a whole lot more than "a bit lacking," though. We can't even blame the fact that it's early access for this shortcoming. It's not the lack of H content that is the problem. The system they devised for the porn is utter dog shit, so no matter how much 5 second loops they pile on top of it, it will remain a steaming pile of shit.
 
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Ya, biggest issue with the XXX content is lack of narrative integration, IMO, and the scenes need to be significantly longer as well.

Something I've considered a bit when thinking about how they could tweak the system is that if they want to make it to where they have teaser / intro, standard / premium, and then an after scene potentially with a given girl (so that the player can customize and build their scene the way they want with those types of selections), what they might consider doing is adding a "lead-in" (desperately needed), "transition" (also desperately needed for immersion and avoiding scene-breaking), and "lead-out" (not as important, but could add to immersion) animation for scenes, some of which could be re-usable to save dev time, that would effectively begin the scene, and then transition smoothly between each section of the scene and this would take care of one of the most common complaints with Pandora that I've seen, which is the aforementioned lack of the scenes being integrated into the story.

An example would be this - let's say you're building a Lily scene...for a teaser let's imagine the devs fulfill a common request on the Steam forums and put a stripper pole in the captain's cabin and you choose that for your 'teaser' (I'd imagine eventually they'll have customizable outfits as well so you can pick what you want her to wear), then for the standard part of the scene, you select some vanilla sex scene like the premium recruitment scene in the base game, then for the after you have the cuddling in bed scene that was in the base game with Killision....

What the devs really need to do is add a lead-in that the player doesn't necessarily pick, it's just there to add proper initialization of the interaction and set the stage - with porn content, the anticipation and stage-setting is just as important to many people as watching the actual act take place - I personally enjoy watching the girl gradually get undressed sexily beforehand during foreplay - I don't want to go straight to naked or to intercourse, I like it gradual as it builds excitement. So as an example in this scenario, maybe you have the captain in his cabin doing whatever - having a drink, going over star charts, on the communicator with somebody, whatever, and the door beeps and he tells the person to come in - it's Lily just wearing high heels and a robe over whatever the player dressed her in and she just asks if he wanted some company and after he says yes, she lets the robe slide off and walks over to the stripper pole and then the actual scene commences, and then after she does the teaser dance, there's a transition animation (like I said, it could potentially be re-used depending on location, movements, and scene design compatibility, etc.) that has the waifu then walk from the stripper pole / teaser scene ending point to the bed to then begin the standard scene and continuing on to the end where they're just laying in bed together, or maybe have a fade out / time skip to the morning showing them getting up from bed together before heading out.

They could also then insert flags into the dialogue that if the player had a given scene with Lily, the next time they talk to Lily, they could have Lily, prior to any main cutscenes, have a brief commentary about how she enjoyed the night before with him, or enjoyed dancing for him, etc., again to add immersion to the world and make it feel more real.

Ultimately that's one of the biggest issues with the scenes right now - there's almost no narrative integration which significantly detracts from the quality of the adult content, and because right now it's just GIFs tied together with time skips between the sections of the scene, there's no proper transition between beginning, middle, and end so it doesn't feel even remotely immersive since it doesn't really flow realistically.

Sorry for the length, just thinking out loud into my keyboard - it's easy for all of us to criticize someone else's work, so sometimes I do sit and think about how a developer could fix a common complaint about a game, etc. that would make me happy enough to consider getting my wallet out for that product.
 

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So in two months they have nothing to show even as a teaser. I'm now inclined to think that their early access was actually all that they were able to produce, all other chapters are not unfinished, they aren't even started to make them.

They hadn't even posted update schedule. Should I wait for a couple of years before starting to have doubts about their abilities to uphold their promises of finishing the game?
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And? Thats exactly what patreon scam prefere to say, "having deadline is opressive". So most likely 0.1 content had everything that they where able to make in years and big buget and they need another year and 2kk to produce 0.2
*whispers* except they're not on patreon, so if they need more time, they're working with whatever money they have. So there's nothing to milk.
 

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*whispers* except they're not on patreon, so if they need more time, they're working with whatever money they have. So there's nothing to milk.
Yeah, and since they already got their game bought, they kinda, have no incentive to even finish it, not to say make it into something good.
 

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Yeah, and since they already got their game bought, they kinda, have no incentive to even finish it, not to say make it into something good.
I mean...if they didn't finish it, their rep of finishing everything they've ever done would take a hit...so I imagine they don't wanna do that.

dude how much did fow pay you to keep shilling in this thread for two months? (checked your post history lmao that's hilarious)
otherwise it is plain retarded to continue defending this level of bullshit. But whatever, considering fow's history on 4chan i wouldn't be surprised you are a dev in disguise.
lol. If I had a nickel for every time someone here accused me of being an employee xD

Someone's gotta balance out the insane 'this NTR cuck game will never be finished, yet I'm still talking about it here for some reason' crowd.
 
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