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I mean...if they milked it, I doubt anyone would sign up for their future support site. Which would hurt them in the long run.

Also if they wanted to milk it, they'd have made the starting price the default 60 'AAA' cost.
That's because you assume they have real leadership to take into consideration the future. This is basic stuff you see in general with crowd funded games. A total lack of leadership, no one to crack the whip so to say and if you think they don't need to have someone to drive them forward, then you are kidding yourselves.

I've seen titles that were under development for years with pretty generous sums of money being shot at them and yet the developers were always swamped with work, broke and simultaneously going in vacations more times per year than millionaires, I shit you not. I'm not saying this is the case here because I simply don't know and I really don't want to cause it might just end up pissing me off, just seeing the state of their steam forums got me pretty annoyed, where legitimate criticism is met with typical fanboy disdain. But I will say that what's happening with this game seems to follow the general formula that's heading towards the same conclusion. The lack of communication, the bullshit on their social media pages, the excuses and the army of fanboys that swarm anyone who might have any complaint concerning the game. I really want to be wrong about this.
 
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That's because you assume they have real leadership to take into consideration the future. This is basic stuff you see in general with crowd funded games. A total lack of leadership, no one to crack the whip so to say and if you think they don't need to have someone to drive them forward, then you are kidding yourselves.

I've seen titles that were under development for years with pretty generous sums of money being shot at them and yet the developers were always swamped with work, broke and simultaneously going in vacations more times per year than millionaires, I shit you not. I'm not saying this is the case here because I simply don't know and I really don't want to cause it might just end up pissing me off, just seeing the state of their steam forums got me pretty annoyed, where legitimate criticism is met with typical fanboy disdain. But I will say that what's happening with this game seems to follow the general formula that's heading towards the same conclusion. The lack of communication, the bullshit on their social media pages, the excuses and the army of fanboys that swarm anyone who might have any complaint concerning the game. I really want to be wrong about this.
I mean they had smart enough leadership to have enough money set aside for when they were booted off Patreon to keep their staff for several months before the Kickstarter. And they've had the same leader for this entire time. They were pulling in thousands back on Patreon, but they never dragged their feet with projects. The most memorable release I remember was Mila Red Riding Hood, which was due at the end of a particular month. When did I see the project post? 11pm in my area, on the last day of the month.

Yeah I'm called a fanboy/schill/secretly paid employee for defending them, but like, they'd done everything they've said they were gonna do. So why would this be any different?
 

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basically, they got 1 million on kickstarter to make the game, but they can't deliver almost any of that, so much so that so far they've only delivered 3 characters and now in october comes another one, and can we expect almost six months of waiting for another one? Damn, five years from now the game is complete
 

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Hey, I can't make the game satrt. It just re opens steam, does anyone know how to fix it (if it is actually a problem)?
 

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So it's releasing on GoG the coming month and so far the only "action" they've shown is Lily getting dicked by a monster rather than the protagonist? I guess they cant let go of their roots but I dont think the general public is going to be as receptive to essentially getting cucked.
 

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So it's releasing on GoG the coming month and so far the only "action" they've shown is Lily getting dicked by a monster rather than the protagonist? I guess they cant let go of their roots but I dont think the general public is going to be as receptive to essentially getting cucked.
Ya, I'm sure there will be more than that, but on the Lily stuff, some folks are okay with it, and as you noted, there are plenty (such as myself) who are not okay with the canonized xeno content. We've had plenty of back and forths here in this thread as well, some folks stating outright they will not purchase the game as long as the Lily xeno angle remains a non-optional part of the story.

Hey, I can't make the game satrt. It just re opens steam, does anyone know how to fix it (if it is actually a problem)?
Check OP for crack information. Others have also noted some pre-cracked torrent copies further up the thread, also. Oh and just to add, there will be a new version release on this game in first half of October, so if you haven't played yet, you might just wait around for the newer version to get posted.
 
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So it's releasing on GoG the coming month and so far the only "action" they've shown is Lily getting dicked by a monster rather than the protagonist? I guess they cant let go of their roots but I dont think the general public is going to be as receptive to essentially getting cucked.
50+ scenes being added I'm sure the cap will have his fun, and why wouldn't they show off the new thing, rather than the dick we've already seen?
 

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Because the dick we've already seen is essentially "ours" as the protagonist. I like my women like I like my sandwiches. Without another person's dick in them.
Why are you expecting that out of Fow?
Out of all their videos only 2 of them are exclusive heroines. None of them even have any hint of emotional attraction to the pov character.

The girls in their works always fuck tons of animals and beasts, and are generally slutty. Hell there's an actual pornstar that'll join your crew. Go read up on the girls. Literally all of them are sluts.

It's like going to a Five Guys and asking for Cheesecake or some other sweet. You're at a Five Guys. They want to make burgers.
 
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Why are you expecting that out of Fow?
Out of all their videos only 2 of them are exclusive heroines. None of them even have any hint of emotional attraction to the pov character.

The girls in their works always fuck tons of animals and beasts, and are generally slutty. Hell there's an actual pornstar that'll join your crew. Go read up on the girls. Literally all of them are sluts.

It's like going to a Five Guys and asking for Cheesecake or some other sweet. You're at a Five Guys. They want to make burgers.
Because that's what people thought they'd get after the whole " the girls are waifus", no "beasty", no "hardcore/rap... " content "advertisement" by them. So why not get some, yes as you said sluts, but for ourselves
 

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Because that's what people thought they'd get after the whole " the girls are waifus", no "beasty", no "hardcore/rap... " content "advertisement" by them. So why not get some, yes as you said sluts, but for ourselves
I partially agree with this. When I check the game's description on steam or on SFOW's website now, I can't see where exactly it promises 100% harem-only no-cuck/no-beasts experience in the game. So I guess it doesn't. But for some reason, me, as many other players, expected that this game would be exactly harem-only when it was announced. So even if the advertisement didn't promise that there won't be NTR-ish nor bestiality stuff, it's still wasn't obvious enough what to expect, and that's why many players were "surprised" when they saw what they saw in the game.
For example, all I knew about the game was the info from trailers on SFOW's yt channel. From what I saw I expected a game in a space setting with a Deadpool-like mc building his own harem of hot chicks, that's all. But when I unlocked one of the "cards" in the pandora system and saw some alien creature fucks my Demi, I was like wtf? It was really unexpected, because it was unclear for me from the beginning that I can stumble on this kind of content in this game. I think that's why many other players got angry about this game as well.
Again, if the game trailers clearly say something like "look, there are bunch of sluts fuck everything they see, including this guy with panties on his face" I wouldn't have any problems with that. But those trailers gave me an impression that this is a harem game, and I mean harem-harem, no other shit.
So I'd say it's partially players' problem, because they expected something that game didn't promise. But it's also SFOW's problem too, because they certainly screwed up something in their marketing campaign.
Anyway, didn't want to start another holy war about NTR/bestiality stuff. I like the game and hope to see more content in future updates. Just saying that imo SFOW deserve the hate they got for Subverse. They definitely should have been more clear about what their game is, and by more clear I mean if the game contains "oh btw, your waifus get alien dicks in their asses" kind of content, be sure to fuckin tell the players about it loud and clear before they buy it.
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