NBV

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Shorter, concise statements that are on point and easy to understand shows that someone is taking the time to curate their thoughts. Having a brain explosion of text that rambles on doesn't show maturity in my opinion. This is why people joke about walls of text.
The problem is that strawman arguments are usually made in these kind of threads when people don't detail exactly what they mean. Some points require a lot of explaining too, especially when we're referring to the many different issues people have with Subverse and Fow's management itself.

I just don't like how the complaints about people's complaints have sort of gone the goalpost route of things. We had people whining about negative feedback and then about arguments, etc. Now that the conversation has been the most civil it's been in months, someone is now whining that posts are too long. At what point do we accept that some people in this thread don't seem to care about the discussion as much as they think they do, and that they're really just here to whine about "whiners" whining endlessly?

EDIT: For people who claim to hate pointless arguments, you guys sure love to reignite them the moment they're gone.
 

CUNTBLAZER420

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Ya, definitely looking forward to more stuff with her - I wonder if Captain has any existing history with her. ie will they recognize each other when they inevitably see each other down the road in the story.
Hard to tell, but hopefully we'll find out sometime next year. I believe they said her update would be the one after this one, though I could be mistaken.
 
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kasata

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Hard to tell, but hopefully we'll find out sometime next year. I believe they said her update would be the one after this one, though I could be mistaken.
You remember where you saw that ? from the Dev diaries they didn't really have any roadmap for who we will unlock next, altho we will more than likely find out come next update.
 

CUNTBLAZER420

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You remember where you saw that ? from the Dev diaries they didn't really have any roadmap for who we will unlock next, altho we will more than likely find out come next update.
I'm not really sure where I saw it. I could be just imagining things, but I swear I read it somewhere.
 

AmazonessKing

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and it's the devs who decide what it is
Factually wrong. If the ice cream man gives you a strawberry ice cream and he swears for his life that it is chocolate, it doesn't make it chocolate. Ever heard about "death of the author"? It doesn't matter what you, as an author of anything, conceive it as, it's what people perceive it as what will define it because the author doesn't live in a bubble, especially when he shares his work with the world, it's up to the world to judge it, and if the artist can't properly convey what he meant to do, then that's mostly his problem, not everyone else's.

It's seen in all sorts of media, particularly music, where a songwriter writes, say, a song inviting you to reflect on a delicate subject, but everyone takes it as a party song because it has a catchy tune or it's just popular. Doesn't erase the original message, but sure as hell most people won't care.

Just my two cents as to why this thread is tagged as ntr. If you as a public figure has been doing monster on women porn and promised to have lots of that in your game, that's how people will perceive you even if you changed course mid-way.
 

kasata

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Factually wrong. If the ice cream man gives you a strawberry ice cream and he swears for his life that it is chocolate, it doesn't make it chocolate. Ever heard about "death of the author"? It doesn't matter what you, as an author of anything, conceive it as, it's what people perceive it as what will define it because the author doesn't live in a bubble, especially when he shares his work with the world, it's up to the world to judge it, and if the artist can't properly convey what he meant to do, then that's mostly his problem, not everyone else's.

It's seen in all sorts of media, particularly music, where a songwriter writes, say, a song inviting you to reflect on a delicate subject, but everyone takes it as a party song because it has a catchy tune or it's just popular. Doesn't erase the original message, but sure as hell most people won't care.

Just my two cents as to why this thread is tagged as ntr. If you as a public figure has been doing monster on women porn and promised to have lots of that in your game, that's how people will perceive you even if you changed course mid-way.
That's some great out of context quote ngl...I was talking about this forum specifically though, not sure why you had to go on some crazy analogy about it.
I don't know if it still needs to be said, but a lot of people have absolutely no clue what ntr is and leaving it to the people of this forum to decide what is or isn't, yeah, that's a terrible idea.
 

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a lot of people have absolutely no clue what ntr is
NTR is just the Japanese term for cuckolding, I am pretty sure almost everyone knows what that is. Now with that said I would argue that there is no NTR in Subverse, at least not in the current build.
 
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kasata

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NTR is just the Japanese term for cuckolding, I am pretty sure almost everyone knows what that is. Now with that said I would argue that there is no NTR in Subverse, at least not in the current build.
Hmm, think it makes more sense to say that they don't know when to apply it, altho again, some people were yelling ntr when MC's sister in Milfy City mentioned her having had 3 bfs before...so, round and round we go, which is why I'd honestly leave the tagging to the devs.

Either way tho, it's been too soon since we had this talk and rather not derail the thread with that again, even though as you've said, there is none of that in the current build of the game but that doesn't stop people from tagging it as such.
 

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I honestly don't know if this is a recent phenomenon, but I think that a new official internet rule should be created (like "rule 34" or "Godwin's law") which states:

"As the discussion around an adult game grows, the probability of NTR being brought up approaches 1"

In any case, I bet the past few pages have actually been the calm before the storm as I'm sure there will be plenty of new NTR straws to cling onto in the next update which is (hopefully) just 6 days away. Gonna need some more popcorn for that! :D
 

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tl:dr, update is coming sooner than expected, replayable missions also confirmed to be a work in progress.
FINALLY !

We will have probably 1 or 2 days less of NTR debate and instead have a shitshow about the content of the new update.
 

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tl:dr, update is coming sooner than expected, replayable missions also confirmed to be a work in progress.
That's how you salvage a shit situation. Bravo to them. Not the release mind you, the fact that they took time to answer the concerns of fans. That's all most of them wanted anyway, besides the game, of course.
 
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I'm glad they are getting a dedicated community manager. There are really good examples of community managers facilitating dev and fan wishes to each other in a fun and healthy way, and I hope whoever they get does that well.
 

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it’s actually like 18, the steam update thing is so weird now
Think it's just the 8.7, but it kinda show the total it's patching as well. How the patching work these days is not so much replace files, but alter the files. (I think). Been downloading patches on steam where the dl been completed and then steam spend forever to patch the damn things. A game such as "Company of Heroes 2", take like fk'n forever to update, even small downloads.

The good folks here that doesn't get it through steam, just have to download the entire thing again. :LOL:
 
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