Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[NBV]

You failed to provide steam did show it as Mass Effect of Porn back then too..

And post a stretch goal about scenes they already said will be coming, the loyality ones. idk that about. You don't decide what order content get released in early access. they do..

You can't use the Wayback Machine on adult steam games. It requires you to login and you can't login on a snapshot machine website. All we can do is point to the current pages they still have up that mentioned Mass Effect exploration.



And the crux of my point is that they did promise backers things that they have walked back on. Now they're universe excuse is that it's a "game with porn, not a porn game", despite advertising it as the apex of porn games.


Didn't they say one of their pre-Taron or Ela updates that they were going to roll out some of their Pandora changes but never did? I know I don't decide they're order, but they shouldn't overpromise things either. If they couldn't make it happen, just say so in a dev diary. Going dark on that front and pretending like the "Pandora Overhauls" discussion wasn't a thing is not the way to go.

 

[droglob]

People really have unrealistic expectations with regards to speed and small teams. Four elements trainer took forever, but it ended up awesome.

Don't you know how this works?

Average WEG scammer copy pasting gifs into HTML?
Great game! Take your time, making porn games is hard! God bless!

Studio FOW?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[NBV]

Don't you know how this works?

Average WEG scammer copy pasting gifs into HTML?
Great game! Take your time, making porn games is hard! God bless!

Studio FOW?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What upsets people the most is when developers or their most die-hard white knights tend to be dishonest with how they reply to feedback and negativity. Maybe it'd help if people stopped pretending every person who says their disappointed with aspects of the game are freeloading non-backers or stop grouping them all into a camp of people "REEEING"?

Other WEG devs don't get 2-4 million in funding when they pretend 15 second loops are okay.

 

[droglob]

What upsets people the most is when developers or their most die-hard white knights tend to be dishonest with how they reply to feedback and negativity. Maybe it'd help if people stopped pretending every person who says their disappointed with aspects of the game are freeloading non-backers or stop grouping them all into a camp of people "REEEING"?

Other WEG devs don't get 2-4 million in funding when they pretend 15 second loops are okay.

it looks like you typed a lot of words but all that got through was passive aggressive bullshit and hypocrisy.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
3 letter name? Am i misremembering or are you the resident anti FOW off his meds? I might legit be misremembering but he's bound to be around here and you're starting to ring a bell.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

it looks like you typed a lot of words but all that got through was passive aggressive bullshit and hypocrisy.

decided to peek in (have him ignored), and that milestone is planned for the devotion quest line, which’ll be when the gals are maxed out. Which we still aren’t close to doing yet. DEMI’s close, around 36 or so, assuming the max is 40.

 

[James1980]

Sorry to interrupt the this game is fraud vs this game meets expectations argument.
I have a question I was wondering if anyone could answer.

Have they changed the grid combat camera at all or at least allowed for zooming in and out?

I haven't touched the game since launch and my biggest gripe with it was how lackluster the grid combat looked. It was very much not visually appealing to me.

 

[Hongfire Survivor]

You can't use the Wayback Machine on adult steam games. It requires you to login and you can't login on a snapshot machine website. All we can do is point to the current pages they still have up that mentioned Mass Effect exploration.

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And the crux of my point is that they did promise backers things that they have walked back on. Now they're universe excuse is that it's a "game with porn, not a porn game", despite advertising it as the apex of porn games.
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Didn't they say one of their pre-Taron or Ela updates that they were going to roll out some of their Pandora changes but never did? I know I don't decide they're order, but they shouldn't overpromise things either. If they couldn't make it happen, just say so in a dev diary. Going dark on that front and pretending like the "Pandora Overhauls" discussion wasn't a thing is not the way to go.

Pandora should have been side content AFTER the game was done.

Instead, its a cheap way to toss in some eh scenes while they actually finish the game.

SMH.

 

[NBV]

it looks like you typed a lot of words but all that got through was passive aggressive bullshit and hypocrisy.

WAIT WAIT WAIT
3 letter name? Am i misremembering or are you the resident anti FOW off his meds? I might legit be misremembering but he's bound to be around here and you're starting to ring a bell.

Didn't you jumped in the thread to make a shitty strawman generalization of everyone? Both your first post and this second one, especially the whole "3 letter name" part is just shitposting quality.

Sorry to interrupt the this game is fraud vs this game meets expectations argument.
I have a question I was wondering if anyone could answer.

Have they changed the grid combat camera at all or at least allowed for zooming in and out?

I haven't touched the game since launch and my biggest gripe with it was how lackluster the grid combat looked. It was very much not visually appealing to me.

Unless you're referring to something I don't understand, it hasn't been changed. It didn't bother me much personally though. Giving us the option to move the camera would be nice though.

 

[droglob]

Didn't you jumped in the thread to make a shitty strawman generalization of everyone? Both your first post and this second one, especially the whole "3 letter name" part is just shitposting quality.


Unless you're referring to something I don't understand, it hasn't been changed. It didn't bother me much personally though. Giving us the option to move the camera would be nice though.

yeah, you are 100% the /aco/ tourist off his meds based on that guy having you ignored and just this interaction. No i jumped in this thread to state a literal, observable fact, like it or not. Then i got someone with nothing to do with their time accusing me of "grouping" people in literally the same post where he lumps me with his pet peeve group based entirely on one interaction. I won't ignore you but please refrain from making sounds in my general direction again, thanks.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Sorry to interrupt the this game is fraud vs this game meets expectations argument.
I have a question I was wondering if anyone could answer.

Have they changed the grid combat camera at all or at least allowed for zooming in and out?

I haven't touched the game since launch and my biggest gripe with it was how lackluster the grid combat looked. It was very much not visually appealing to me.

they’ve cleaned up the visuals, and there’s plenty of map variety now. Whether that’ll satisfy you is up to you.

 

[MrDefault]

New scenes are here: Mega
Old scenes are here: Mega
If you find a bug or I've missed something, let me know and I'll fix it. View attachment 1701521

Any chance for reupload, hero?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Pandora should have been side content AFTER the game was done.

Instead, its a cheap way to toss in some eh scenes while they actually finish the game.

SMH.

Or, just a theory, they put in not as many scenes so they could get enough feedback that they wouldn’t have to scrap everything and start over.

can only imagine how much crap they’d have gotten had they stuck to their 100% completed game then release plan.

 

[NBV]

yeah, you are 100% the /aco/ tourist off his meds based on that guy having you ignored and just this interaction. No i jumped in this thread to state a literal, observable fact, like it or not. Then i got someone with nothing to do with their time accusing me of "grouping" people in literally the same post where he lumps me with his pet peeve group based entirely on one interaction. I won't ignore you but please refrain from making sounds in my general direction again, thanks.

No, you're wrong. I do find it absolutely hilarious that some drama you were involved in on 4chan has gotten you so flustered that you're bringing it up here.

 

[EmilIrving]

EVERYONE made fun of that ending, and the players made such a riot that Bioware had to go back and fix a LESS worse ending. The original ending took a giant dump on players that had played the entire series. You could tell the real talent at Bioware did wane over the years. And then we got the Mass Effect Andromeda with all the mongo faces.. good job Bioware

I was one of the black sheeps that didn't make fun of it, due to feeling completely drained from the realization that nothing mattered in the end. And didn't want to finish the other four Shepards that I made and played back from when the original first game came out, only played the MP since then (cause Fury, after unlocking through the lootbox system back then...) Only to completely stop playing the game completely once the Extended Cut was released, using the same Shepard that I finished.

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I have to say that they technically got the Mass Effect exploration through the map system, the only other Mass Effect exploration was the first game's mako moments... And all I can remember, that are not part of the main story (or that Station DLC) but the side quests instead, was bland... boring... boosting up and jumping up mountains while being shot at while blasting Geth or Batarians. Granted, if Studio Fow used the money to do this, I would be impressed... for all of ten seconds and wouldn't be surprised if that kind of exploration was just like the run of the mill Mako explorations.

And the crux of my point is that they did promise backers things that they have walked back on. Now they're universe excuse is that it's a "game with porn, not a porn game", despite advertising it as the apex of porn games.
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Didn't they say one of their pre-Taron or Ela updates that they were going to roll out some of their Pandora changes but never did? I know I don't decide they're order, but they shouldn't overpromise things either. If they couldn't make it happen, just say so in a dev diary. Going dark on that front and pretending like the "Pandora Overhauls" discussion wasn't a thing is not the way to go.

I haven't checked on the other promises to Backers about the Station DLC that those that spent a lot of money for (I only spent enough to get the calender), but they have walked back on the EA... only to walk back on THAT and still hand out the EA, and I still got all the backer stuff so I cannot say I got shafted, but I am waiting to see what the other Backers (if they are around) got to say.

On that note, however, I cannot help but notice that ability to change the Captain's skin color was removed, don't know when that happened though...

Also about that image, I do remember constantly checking the lab (aka spamming it), I never heard any moans and Lily was never missing when that post was being spread around. So I would take that post with a massive grain of salt, and this is coming from someone that was incredibly irked that Studio Fow was withholding a video of theirs (Project Snow) until their twitter page had enough followers, when they were losing them, until Subverse was announced and became known.

 

[NBV]

Also about that image, I do remember constantly checking the lab (aka spamming it), I never heard any moans and Lily was never missing when that post was being spread around. So I would take that post with a massive grain of salt, and this is coming from someone that was incredibly irked that Studio Fow was withholding a video of theirs (Project Snow) until their twitter page had enough followers, when they were losing them, until Subverse was announced and became known.

That's because it was something they wrote down back when Subverse was intended to have some avoidable and unavoidable scenes on top of the Pandora system handling them. This was before Pandora was decided to be a complete side gallery only. At some point during pre-EA, they caved over a subset of fans crying about NTR that they chose the route for scenes we have now. The way they talked about scenes and replied to Q/A early on heavily suggested that we could encounter those kind of scenes through the ship and possibly during some missions. Unless they decide to add small bits of dialogue scenes to the beginning of the scenes locked in Pandora, we will never have what was described for that Bulgetto scene. The same applies to what was described to sound like a Chodestool "mini-game" that involved you having to feed it occasionally or you could wind up finding it going at it with someone like Taron while moving through the ship menus.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I was one of the black sheeps that didn't make fun of it, due to feeling completely drained from the realization that nothing mattered in the end. And didn't want to finish the other four Shepards that I made and played back from when the original first game came out, only played the MP since then (cause Fury, after unlocking through the lootbox system back then...) Only to completely stop playing the game completely once the Extended Cut was released, using the same Shepard that I finished.

I have to say that they technically got the Mass Effect exploration through the map system, the only other Mass Effect exploration was the first game's mako moments... And all I can remember, that are not part of the main story (or that Station DLC) but the side quests instead, was bland... boring... boosting up and jumping up mountains while being shot at while blasting Geth or Batarians. Granted, if Studio Fow used the money to do this, I would be impressed... for all of ten seconds and wouldn't be surprised if that kind of exploration was just like the run of the mill Mako explorations.

I haven't checked on the other promises to Backers about the Station DLC that those that spent a lot of money for (I only spent enough to get the calender), but they have walked back on the EA... only to walk back on THAT and still hand out the EA, and I still got all the backer stuff so I cannot say I got shafted, but I am waiting to see what the other Backers (if they are around) got to say.

On that note, however, I cannot help but notice that ability to change the Captain's skin color was removed, don't know when that happened though...

Also about that image, I do remember constantly checking the lab (aka spamming it), I never heard any moans and Lily was never missing when that post was being spread around. So I would take that post with a massive grain of salt, and this is coming from someone that was incredibly irked that Studio Fow was withholding a video of theirs (Project Snow) until their twitter page had enough followers, when they were losing them, until Subverse was announced and became known.

Just sidebarring for Snow, but that was never really a film (you’ll notice it isn’t listed as an official movie release on their website, nor does it have a number denoting its project number). It was a training wheel flick they used for prospective animators to show what they could do. That’s why it looks like it’s made by like 10 different people, cuz it was

As for backer DLC, I wouldn’t honestly expect that til after the game is done. But then they’ve also said they were gonna do devotion quests after 1.0, but then changed their mind on that, so who knows.

But the space whales (the highest backers that got to add their own scenes) have been getting added to the game, so rewards are being fulfilled. Backer planets have also been in the game for awhile now. One of them’s fairly noticeable as it’s named after one of the mods.

 

[TiJe]

Isn't there a full download instead of 7 parts?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Isn't there a full download instead of 7 parts?

Torrent I guess.. The game is like 33gb+ so, one single archieve seems a bit... meeh.

 

[EmilIrving]

That's because it was something they wrote down back when Subverse was intended to have some avoidable and unavoidable scenes on top of the Pandora system handling them. This was before Pandora was decided to be a complete side gallery only. At some point during pre-EA, they caved over a subset of fans crying about NTR that they chose the route for scenes we have now. The way they talked about scenes and replied to Q/A early on heavily suggested that we could encounter those kind of scenes through the ship and possibly during some missions. Unless they decide to add small bits of dialogue scenes to the beginning of the scenes locked in Pandora, we will never have what was described for that Bulgetto scene. The same applies to what was described to sound like a Chodestool "mini-game" that involved you having to feed it occasionally or you could wind up finding it going at it with someone like Taron while moving through the ship menus.

I... not sure if the outcry even happened during the pre-EA. As before that, the demos that were released for higher-tier backers than me, and I got those from here, were just the horde-mode space-ship battles. That said, I cannot in good faith say that my disbelief is fact cause like I said, I am not sure. But I do want to say this outrage happened right around the time the game honestly hit EA.

Though everything you said, about the devs immediately changing to the Pandora system without dialogue due to the fans crying about NTR, is correct. Which brings to people crying that the sex scenes having no context. Honestly wished Studio Fow could have kept the premise... but, at the same time, Studio Fow shot themselves in the foot as I recall one of the premise for the game alluded to romance in the first place...

Just sidebarring for Snow, but that was never really a film (you’ll notice it isn’t listed as an official movie release on their website, nor does it have a number denoting its project number). It was a training wheel flick they used for prospective animators to show what they could do. That’s why it looks like it’s made by like 10 different people, cuz it was

As for backer DLC, I wouldn’t honestly expect that til after the game is done. But then they’ve also said they were gonna do devotion quests after 1.0, but then changed their mind on that, so who knows.

But the space whales (the highest backers that got to add their own scenes) have been getting added to the game, so rewards are being fulfilled. Backer planets have also been in the game for awhile now. One of them’s fairly noticeable as it’s named after one of the mods.

About the Snow one, that makes a lot of sense. Still raised a brow out of me that it still required a number of followers to be released. But eh...

Also good to know that the Backer Planets have been being added overtime all the same. But everything else about their promises is a wait and see kind of deal on if the devs can continue keeping.

 

[Sab12]

but, at the same time, Studio Fow shot themselves in the foot as I recall one of the premise for the game alluded to romance in the first place...

They did, and my dumb ass bit on that part of the marketing HARD. My mistake for trusting them with their track record... they baited what was left of my Mass Effect fanboi hard.

My mistake, I will NEVER trust this dev again.

That said I agree the game feels watered the hell down, from trying to please everyone and failing to really please anyone.