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Actually the top GOG reviews are from backers who are upset about the state of the game they backed.
Aye. There were those turned off by the initial early access changes, going from that to a full game plan, then a compromised version of EA. Many also didn't read the dev diaries and just presumed they were getting Mass Effect XXX Edition. When it should never have been that expected from a small budget and a first time team (yes this is considered small by actual game dev standards).
 

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Aye. There were those turned off by the initial early access changes, going from that to a full game plan, then a compromised version of EA. Many also didn't read the dev diaries and just presumed they were getting Mass Effect XXX Edition. When it should never have been that expected from a small budget and a first time team (yes this is considered small by actual game dev standards).
Most of them are complaining about simple things like the cringe writing and repetitive combat. I'd like to see some of the reviews you're referencing.
 

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Most of them are complaining about simple things like the cringe writing and repetitive combat. I'd like to see some of the reviews you're referencing.
The writing and by extension the comedy is always gonna be subjective, so that isn't much of a factor. If you couldn't tell the tone of the game from the first trailer, I don't know what to tell ya there.

And as for combat, that's been noted numerous times in various place, including the official discord. That is why they made efforts to vary up the story missions with unique approaches to them, as well as side quests. But I wouldn't expect that level of diversity to be applied to every single encounter.
 

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The writing and by extension the comedy is always gonna be subjective, so that isn't much of a factor. If you couldn't tell the tone of the game from the first trailer, I don't know what to tell ya there.

And as for combat, that's been noted numerous times in various place, including the official discord. That is why they made efforts to vary up the story missions with unique approaches to them, as well as side quests. But I wouldn't expect that level of diversity to be applied to every single encounter.
When these complaints have been going on for several years across multiple platforms from both people who backed the original kickstarter and new people there's a point where you can't keep sweeping them away with "it's subjective" and "they're working on it".
 

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When these complaints have been going on for several years across multiple platforms from both people who backed the original kickstarter and new people there's a point where you can't keep sweeping them away with "it's subjective" and "they're working on it".
Yes...I can? Cuz the script isn't gonna stop not having humor, and the game is in development...so repeating the same thing when its already been said, read, and noted is kinda just a waste of time, no?
 

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Yes...I can? Cuz the script isn't gonna stop not having humor, and the game is in development...so repeating the same thing when its already been said, read, and noted is kinda just a waste of time, no?
So you've whittled it down from "negative reviews are just misinformed about NTR/don't want to play a real game", to "negative reviews are just setting their expectations too high for an early access indie game", to "negative reviews don't mean anything because of subjectivity", to "stop wasting your time replying to me". You got me, I can't really argue with that one.
 

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So you've whittled it down from "negative reviews are just misinformed about NTR/don't want to play a real game", to "negative reviews are just setting their expectations too high for an early access indie game", to "negative reviews don't mean anything because of subjectivity", to "stop wasting your time replying to me". You got me, I can't really argue with that one.
I mean I'm replying for conversation's sake. But airing grievances here won't do anything because they ain't looking here for feedback. If everything you've said is there is in the reviews, its been read. So why repeat it?
 

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So you've whittled it down from "negative reviews are just misinformed about NTR/don't want to play a real game", to "negative reviews are just setting their expectations too high for an early access indie game", to "negative reviews don't mean anything because of subjectivity", to "stop wasting your time replying to me". You got me, I can't really argue with that one.
I've been visiting this thread on a bi weekly basis to check for updates. This guy has been here, without fucking fail, defending this game to his last breath since the very beginning. And I mostly agree with him that people are misguided about this game's supposed NTR. But the dude is still incredibly insufferable. FOW should genuinely pay this guy, not even community managers try this hard.
 

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I've been visiting this thread on a bi weekly basis to check for updates. This guy has been here, without fucking fail, defending this game to his last breath since the very beginning. And I mostly agree with him that people are misguided about this game's supposed NTR. But the dude is still incredibly insufferable. FOW should genuinely pay this guy, not even community managers try this hard.
Just an fyi, but you don't have check that often, the studio updates us once a month :)

And yeah I have been, but I am generally on the side of the creator in any thread I've posted at. Again I know games and animation in general is no cakewalk, so it is irksome when I see people boil it down to '5 second gifs' or compare it to other developers (many of which are significantly slower to update and keep folks in the loop).

So sure. Insufferable, white knight, secret paid employee, I've heard it all in this thread. But I'm still here, answering questions where I can, and those people are not.
 
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DuraCzeller

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Why are the torrents dead? The one on the first page, doen't even go anywhere, and the other from a few pages back is just endlessly looking for peers and doesn't download, tried it with 2 different apps
 

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If I download the game, can I just launch it from the .exe without any Steam interaction? I really want to try it, and if just to see how it's worth the attention, but don't want to run into issues with (german) Steam.
 

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I've been visiting this thread on a bi weekly basis to check for updates. This guy has been here, without fucking fail, defending this game to his last breath since the very beginning. And I mostly agree with him that people are misguided about this game's supposed NTR. But the dude is still incredibly insufferable. FOW should genuinely pay this guy, not even community managers try this hard.
I've seen the various NTR dramas, I've been following this game since it was announced. Most of the negative reviews don't even mention it so I'm not really sure why it was even brought up in that discussion.
 

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I've seen the various NTR dramas, I've been following this game since it was announced. Most of the negative reviews don't even mention it so I'm not really sure why it was even brought up in that discussion.
I think those people who don't like the Xeno scenes and the "NRT part" won't play the game in the first place, let alone write a review about it. It's like going to McDonalds, complaining that you got fast food. You can do that, but it'll make you look kinda stupid pretty quickly.

Then agian, this whole decision to not make it "100% optional" via a real choice is such a strange hill to die on. It'll have cost FOW a good sum of money by now, while it would have been very little effort for them to implement.
 
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