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Pikachu2k

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That they did "full voiceacting" yet as an animation studio neglected to actually mocap or animate the sprites talking.
Exactly this. Having take up most of the time with endless conversations that are basically talking heads only with animated 3D models but no mouth movement at all just looks bad.

It doesn't have to be perfect lipsync, but at least some movement should have been there, even a lot of cheap 2D VNs usually manage that just fine.
 
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stenctrum

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Also, i see many people complaining about the sex scenes. Should I remind you that, apart from very few games, the rest of the sex scenes in other games are a visual novel without sound and that the only mechanic in the entire game is click in one of the two options?
Yeah but those sex scenes in other games are much better cuz they are integrated into the story and have some context. I dont really care what other mechanics are there in porn game. If porn is rubbish then game fails as porn game. They should spend less money on voice acting and gameplay and spend more on actual sex. Game with no sound and animations still could be a great porn game. Game with no good sex scenes can't.
 

Yuriski

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You know, voice acting in this game is like buying a bunch of wristwatches for 5 bucks each and then coating them in gold to sell for 50.
Sure, the watch works, but at the end of the day, people are only going to buy them because they look like gold.
 

CourierNPC

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Am I violating the forum rules if I want to share a little fanfiction I made for this game? Just asking.
 

Gwedelino

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Am I violating the forum rules if I want to share a little fanfiction I made for this game? Just asking.
I don't know but when i hear "fanfiction" I'm thinking that you might violate our sanity by posting it.
 

Gwedelino

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Did we already have some information about the not implemented features of the main ship ?

I'm especially talking about the gallery in the bar and the Engineering store.
 

Razrback16

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Yeah but those sex scenes in other games are much better cuz they are integrated into the story and have some context. I dont really care what other mechanics are there in porn game. If porn is rubbish then game fails as porn game. They should spend less money on voice acting and gameplay and spend more on actual sex. Game with no sound and animations still could be a great porn game. Game with no good sex scenes can't.
Ya, even simpler VN games without VA, but that have proper, narrative-driven sex scenes like "Being A DIK"or "City of Broken Dreamers" as well-known examples, have far better adult content than Subverse because of the narrative integration.
 

Readerf2b

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Some "golden" scenes should be rewards for secondary quests.
Like that sex machin scene with lily should be for collecting that machine from pirates or fuccbots, and with dialogs of lily suggesting capitan to supervise test run.
Same goes to scenes with manticores, they should be attainable thru manticore leveling.
 

c.o.w

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Its really weird seeing folks pretend this is a dime a dozen game, like there's more just like this. There isn't. Find us a game with full voice acting, cinematic cutscenes, and two distinct gameplay models that are actually like a game and not something as simple as match-3 or the default RPGmaker combat.
there are 2 games i hold in high regard because they used the porn element for story segregation in a good sense while keeping a degree of aceptable quality for the scenes

thug hero party | dark hero party depending of the translation you pick, its a heavy NTR game where you see umos, the main character, losing his village, her friends and girlfriend, and living trought a hell because somebody stronger that him decided to do so. During your game, the game give you hope just to crush it after. I don't like NTR yet i like this because how they used the scenes to justify what came after

pronant symphony main theme is brainwashing, you brainwashed 4 adventures to submit your will and head to the pandemonium to kill istaroth, somebody you have a bone to pick up. What i found neat is the game never suggest you to use the brainwashing for bad or good things. Julius the main character has a past but is not releaved early on to not biase the player to side in either side of the spectrum

being a good guy prevents you to unlock 99% of the scenes but given the past of julius, by granting the chance he aspired to be something better of what he is, or at least his narrative of the story, being the bad guy raping people at your wish is what get the scenes given the past of julius, he is spoiling himself in pleasures before he dies for good

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turn based combat with a twist to mind: the field effect, you may have killed the same guy 100 times in row but if you manipulate the field effect to the enemy advantage due mistake or ignorance, expect to be killed (probably). You not only die if your hp hits 0, so does if your mp hits 0.

and for having static CG, censored, and no voice, it also felt like a game for me to invest 15 hours on it

shield yourself all your want in the cinematic experience, in the voice acting or the diferent elements in your game, is not the whole part is just a piece of the whole product that determinate if the game is good or bad. I cannot personally judge subverse due my computer not metting the requirements to run it. I just learned about studioFOW when this was posted here!. But looking the comments here, the videos, the scenes... i expected more for what they advertised in their kickstarter, i believe this is a common mistake in developers when they go more ambitious of what they can manage. I really hope subverse becomes a proper porn game for everbody to enjoy

>bruh those are turn based combat game

seek on internet violated heroine, despite the old ass rpg maker engine, is a action rpg. Pixel sprite ero scenes
 

Kardie222

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Exactly this. Having take up most of the time with endless conversations that are basically talking heads only with animated 3D models but no mouth movement at all just looks bad.

It doesn't have to be perfect lipsync, but at least some movement should have been there, even a lot of cheap 2D VNs usually manage that just fine.
Well, I mean the majority of the budget went to hiring professional voice actors. What was left over was only enough to cover cheap animation which explains the loops.
 

MenmaYu

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How do I know which is which based on the torrent file?
Are the chapters separated or were they compiled into one?
=w=
 

Razrback16

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How do I know which is which based on the torrent file?
Are the chapters separated or were they compiled into one?
=w=
The current build of Subverse has all the available content bundled into the game (nothing is separate) so no need to worry about installing individual chapters, etc.
 
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MenmaYu

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The current build of Subverse has all the available content bundled into the game (nothing is separate) so no need to worry about installing individual chapters, etc.
Okay, thanks. That "Parts 1,2,3..." got me confused so better to be safe. :cool:
Still, 17Gb for a pre-alpha? Unreal really live up to expectations. :unsure:
 

Razrback16

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Okay, thanks. That "Parts 1,2,3..." got me confused so better to be safe. :cool:
Still, 17Gb for a pre-alpha? Unreal really live up to expectations. :unsure:
Np - ya I think the different parts was just to split up the files for folks who needed to download it in pieces due to limited bandwidth, etc. I personally always recommend a torrent over a file hoster though if the torrent has seeders. More reliable and no real concerns with dropped connections.
 

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there are 2 games i hold in high regard because they used the porn element for story segregation in a good sense while keeping a degree of aceptable quality for the scenes

thug hero party | dark hero party depending of the translation you pick, its a heavy NTR game where you see umos, the main character, losing his village, her friends and girlfriend, and living trought a hell because somebody stronger that him decided to do so. During your game, the game give you hope just to crush it after. I don't like NTR yet i like this because how they used the scenes to justify what came after

pronant symphony main theme is brainwashing, you brainwashed 4 adventures to submit your will and head to the pandemonium to kill istaroth, somebody you have a bone to pick up. What i found neat is the game never suggest you to use the brainwashing for bad or good things. Julius the main character has a past but is not releaved early on to not biase the player to side in either side of the spectrum

being a good guy prevents you to unlock 99% of the scenes but given the past of julius, by granting the chance he aspired to be something better of what he is, or at least his narrative of the story, being the bad guy raping people at your wish is what get the scenes given the past of julius, he is spoiling himself in pleasures before he dies for good

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turn based combat with a twist to mind: the field effect, you may have killed the same guy 100 times in row but if you manipulate the field effect to the enemy advantage due mistake or ignorance, expect to be killed (probably). You not only die if your hp hits 0, so does if your mp hits 0.

and for having static CG, censored, and no voice, it also felt like a game for me to invest 15 hours on it

shield yourself all your want in the cinematic experience, in the voice acting or the diferent elements in your game, is not the whole part is just a piece of the whole product that determinate if the game is good or bad. I cannot personally judge subverse due my computer not metting the requirements to run it. I just learned about studioFOW when this was posted here!. But looking the comments here, the videos, the scenes... i expected more for what they advertised in their kickstarter, i believe this is a common mistake in developers when they go more ambitious of what they can manage. I really hope subverse becomes a proper porn game for everbody to enjoy

>bruh those are turn based combat game

seek on internet violated heroine, despite the old ass rpg maker engine, is a action rpg. Pixel sprite ero scenes
Okay, now for the next fun part. How much did those games have available at 0.1
 

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Okay, now for the next fun part. How much did those games have available at 0.1
We wouldn't know, because Japanese developers don't release their games at 0.1. They release demo and then release a full product in a few months. Japanese developers don't make promises they release games when they're ready and don't push fundraisers. That point is actually against Subverse in this case.
 
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We wouldn't know, because Japanese developers don't release their games at 0.1. They release demo and then release a full product in a few months. Japanese developers don't make promises they release games when they're ready and don't push fundraisers. That point is actually against Subverse in this case.
So then you can't even compare the two. Even more of a point actually. Shoulda done more homework.
 
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