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TheUnsaid

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looping 3s gifs does not a big budget porn game make
Yes, the big budget is what makes the big budget porn game.
Just because they chose to spend the budget on not-porn doesn't change the fact that it's a big-budget game.
$2 million is a lot.
 

Gwedelino

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By what standards?
Compared to all the other porngames.

I already did and posted some calculations on this topic, but Subverse has a budget that is on a comparable scale of Wildlife which is one of the biggest Patreon of F95 (if not the biggest, since adeptus Steve is earning about 100 K a month).

Subverse earned more than 2 millions dollars during their kickstarter campaign and meanwhile wildlife earned about 1,7 millions dollars on the same period.

Plus we have to keep in mind that subverse's budget is not 2 millions dollars anymore. I know that we had some contest about estimating their sale, but it's not ridiculous to think that they earned several more millions.
 

Joshua Tree

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Compared to all the other porngames.

I already did and posted some calculations on this topic, but Subverse has a budget that is on a comparable scale of Wildlife which is one of the biggest Patreon of F95 (if not the biggest, since adeptus Steve is earning about 100 K a month).

Subverse earned more than 2 millions dollars during their kickstarter campaign and meanwhile wildlife earned about 1,7 millions dollars on the same period.

Plus we have to keep in mind that subverse's budget is not 2 millions dollars anymore. I know that we had some contest about estimating their sale, but it's not ridiculous to think that they earned several more millions.
How much does Adeputs Steve pocket of that income and stuff in the bank vs spend on the project, vs what FOW does? With 100k a month that would be 2.4m over 2 years. I know it increased over time and not been 100k every month. But in that regard they have about same budget to play with.

People stare themselves blind on numbers and doesn't consider expenses, wages and all that jizz. People repeat the 2 million mantra like they think it's a constant number stuffed in some bank account.

When you get paid your wages, do they just enter your bank account and sit there, or do you have bills to be paid?

Also in regard of "porngames"

Check timestamp at 8:16

 

Gwedelino

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How much does Adeputs Steve pocket of that income and stuff in the bank vs spend on the project, vs what FOW does?

You're asking for a data we can't and won't have.

With 100k a month that would be 2.4m over 2 years. I know it increased over time and not been 100k every month. But in that regard they have about same budget to play with.

Crazy how 1,7m become 2,4m with you. Unless Wildlife remain in development for 4/5 years (which is a possibility), Subverse and Wildlife are as I said on a camparable scale in term of budget, but Subverse is still a few millions higher with those early access sales

People stare themselves blind on numbers and doesn't consider expenses, wages and all that jizz. People repeat the 2 million mantra like they think it's a constant number stuffed in some bank account.

When you get paid your wages, do they just enter your bank account and sit there, or do you have bills to be paid?

Also in regard of "porngames"

Check timestamp at 8:16


I don't care about what a voice actress says (or even a developer). Studio Fow has been known for porn content and this game is still a porngame :

Is it a game ? YES

Does it contain a truckload of porn ? YES

It is totally relevant to compare this game to other porngames.
 

Joshua Tree

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If you don't care what a VA of the game say, or even the devs, about the game itself and what it is.. Then you are moving into Myth busters territory, to quote Adam Savage "I reject your reality and substitute my own"...

How long Wild Life been in development now? Since 2016 or there abouts. The money Adeptus Steve pulled from Patreon since the launch surely exceed what FOW got on their kickstarter, and most likely chew a good chunk into what they made on steam after early release as well.
 

Gwedelino

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If you don't care what a VA of the game say, or even the devs, about the game itself and what it is.. Then you are moving into Myth busters territory, to quote Adam Savage "I reject your reality and substitute my own"...

This is becoming quite ridiculous. If I'm saying that a tomato is an orange, does it make it an orange despite all logic ?

Subverse is a video game with a lot of porn content in eachs of its aspect (writing / design / gameplay), so it's not stupid to consider it as a porngame, it's not "my reality" it's just "reality". Maybe Studio Fow has a different definition of what's a porngame, but sadly their definition seems to be pretty different of what's the majority of people are thinking.


How long Wild Life been in development now? Since 2016 or there abouts. The money Adeptus Steve pulled from Patreon since the launch surely exceed what FOW got on their kickstarter, and most likely chew a good chunk into what they made on steam after early release as well.

Nope
 

EvilFairy666

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Ok, i was to harsh attacking the game. I read the subverse update posts, and what they want to do with the game ( much more content, interactions, sex scenes + modding ) and if they pull this out this will be a solid game.
 

Gwedelino

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So you know exactly how much Adeptus Steve made then I suppose. and can say that for sure... so how much they made then?
2 116 277 $ since the start of his patreon (since April 2016).

Studio Fow got 1 668 626 £ from kickstarter.

Kickstarter ended May 2nd and exchange rate was 1,32 between £ and $
So Studio Fow got 2 202 586,32 $.

Close but still not taking into account the huge amount of money from early access sales.
 

Joshua Tree

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2 116 277 $ since the start of his patreon (since April 2016).

Studio Fow got 1 668 626 £ from kickstarter.

Kickstarter ended May 2nd and exchange rate was 1,32 between £ and $
So Studio Fow got 2 202 586,32 $.

Close but still not taking into account the huge amount of money from early access sales.
Bravo, and now the expenses on the respective and how money spent?
 

Joshua Tree

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I already gave you an answer for that.
Which make how much they brought in a non issue right? Results is what counts, and seeing the state of Wild Life after 4 years, vs Subverse early access after a couple, you should think Wild Life would been a lot further down the road right?
 

Kardie222

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This game is an absolute 10/10. It has broken new ground and set an industry standard. The bar is far too high and nigh unreachable. The voice acting would put English theater actors to shame.

It’s writing..my it’s writing is Shakespearean worthy. Its comedy is golden, witty, and thought provoking. Truly many of the greatest writers of past and future can stand to take notes.

It's graphics would put a AAA studio to udder shame. The gameplay itself has so much depth and complexity that it makes other tactical games feel as if made by amateurs.

Subverse isn’t just game of the year, it’s not even the game of the century! It’s the freaking game of the millennium!

There will be no other like this game ever again in history.
Well a beautiful review.
 

Gwedelino

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Which make how much they brought in a non issue right? Results is what counts, and seeing the state of Wild Life after 4 years, vs Subverse early access after a couple, you should think Wild Life would been a lot further down the road right?
By default I trust the developers that
Which make how much they brought in a non issue right? Results is what counts, and seeing the state of Wild Life after 4 years, vs Subverse early access after a couple, you should think Wild Life would been a lot further down the road right?
I don't care if it's an issue or not, this kind of thing doesn't interest me.

I already proved what i wanted to prove :

- Subverse budget is a lot compared to other "porngames"

- Subverse can ce considered as a "porngame" despite what the dev can say
 

arpaschad

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Just gonna leave this here so you guys have more fuel if the developers deliver or not in the coming weeks, months, years or decades that this game will be in development...

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Dargast

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To be fair, NTR and bad story aside their 3D Animations are all stellar. So just do what I do, skip the awful writing, play through the game and enjoy the animations. You get it here for free anyway.
The porn aspects are fucking terrible tho.
How the fuck did they manage to drop their movies with such good quality and completely shit the bed with the H scenes, probably the most important aspect of a h game?
 
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