Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Gwedelino]

Well I mean it's not like the actual gameplay of subverse is anything to write home about...

I perfectly agree with the fact that Subverse has some big flaws. But still, for a V 0.1 and compared to other games which are in the same state, then this game is probably one of the best available on F95zone (which is kinda easy since most of the 0.1 game posted here are either games with nearly no content and / or games developed with few resources).

I mean, just put yourself of some average user of this website :

- You are browsing F95 looking for new content

- If the game doesn't have a "completed" tag, you know that it will be in 90%+ of the case either a Renpy visual novel game with 10 mins of content or an RPGM game with the same 10 mins of content.

And then you find subverse :

- Which has the tag "unreal Engine"

- Which is fully-voiced

- Which has 4/6 hours of content for a V0.1

For the average user Subverse really stands out of all the crap you can find here. This is just what i wanted to highlight since the beginning. It's perfectly understandable to see people describing subverse as the "best game on F95".

 

[Kernist]

It's perfectly understandable to see people describing subverse as the "best game on F95".

I must admit, to this point I have taken your comments seriously. You got me there.

 

[clickandboom]

I must admit, to this point I have taken your comments seriously. You got me there.

You just fell into his language trap.
With some thinking you can easily find that in his logic "spending three years and two millions to make a game's V0.1" is an advantage over other games, not shortcoming - now you know why this statement is ridiculous.

 

[Gwedelino]

I must admit, to this point I have taken your comments seriously. You got me there.

I'm just trying to explain a point of view, I didn't say that I'm sharing it, or that it is clever.

People are often overreacting here so.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I believe fallen doll is the correct direction a lewd game should take which is making porn the focus and other aspects icing on the cake, but you are right this is getting off topic so I will stop here as well.

I'm glad Subverse didn't go this direction.

Fallen Doll, and games like it, have the big problem of forcing the consumers to do the work of the developers for them. Imagine going to a movie theater and they say they have all of these premade scenes of a movie done, but you have to do all the camera work yourself to make the movie look good. The movie should be good already, that's what you paid for. You didn't go there to do the work for them. Or imagine playing something like Legend of Queen Opala, but the game made you color in Sparrow's linework yourself.

And while total control over the camera angles is theoretically a good thing to have, in practice you realize why most things don't operate this way, including real porn. Specifically, its because most angle looks like crap, and don't show things well. So games like this not only force consumers to do the developers work for them in making the porn look good, it really doesn't offer anything more in terms of good porn then if they just had pre-rendered the 1-3 angles said position looks good in as video files.

An added problem is that these sorts of "games" spend so long as these camera control systems, and getting everything to work on it, that they never actually make the game part of the game. Fallen Doll and Wild Life both suffer from this horribly. There's nothing to really play after years of development, and when you can spend all the time trying to findangle the camra to make the scenes look good, or just go up on a rule34 site and watch already premade videos, there is no reason to not do the latter. The latter is not only less work, but will almost always look better.

I would honestly say any other type of lewd game, from VNs to trainers, are better then games like Fallen Doll. Becuase they arre actually functional games, and don't spend all their time trying to get out of doing the one thing they are supposed to be doing, making good porn, by forcing it on the players.

 

[rf96]

That's your opinion. By this logic you could say you don't like 3D games at all.

 

[Kernist]

I'm just trying to explain a point of view, I didn't say that I'm sharing it, or that it is clever.

People are often overreacting here so.

Ok, but I don't know if anyone here made statement that Subverse is the best game on F95, even people who defend this game with their own body. All these statements about how great this game is are based on faith that v1.0 will be 10 times better since now it is v0.1. I'm not here to argue about how Subverse compares to other EA games here. I don't even play EA games. I am just amazed how people who actively play games in EA and are aware better than anyone else how promises prove to be empty at the end put so much blind faith in Subverse even when this build raises so many red flags. Maybe all this "but it's fully voiced" people should better stop playing games and buy themselves some audiobooks if that's what they are into.

 

[Gwedelino]

I'm glad Subverse didn't go this direction.

Fallen Doll, and games like it, have the big problem of forcing the consumers to do the work of the developers for them. Imagine going to a movie theater and they say they have all of these premade scenes of a movie done, but you have to do all the camera work yourself to make the movie look good. The movie should be good already, that's what you paid for. You didn't go there to do the work for them. Or imagine playing something like Legend of Queen Opala, but the game made you color in Sparrow's linework yourself.

And while total control over the camera angles is theoretically a good thing to have, in practice you realize why most things don't operate this way, including real porn. Specifically, its because most angle looks like crap, and don't show things well. So games like this not only force consumers to do the developers work for them in making the porn look good, it really doesn't offer anything more in terms of good porn then if they just had pre-rendered the 1-3 angles said position looks good in as video files.

An added problem is that these sorts of "games" spend so long as these camera control systems, and getting everything to work on it, that they never actually make the game part of the game. Fallen Doll and Wild Life both suffer from this horribly. There's nothing to really play after years of development, and when you can spend all the time trying to findangle the camra to make the scenes look good, or just go up on a rule34 site and watch already premade videos, there is no reason to not do the latter. The latter is not only less work, but will almost always look better.

I would honestly say any other type of lewd game, from VNs to trainers, are better then games like Fallen Doll. Becuase they arre actually functional games, and don't spend all their time trying to get out of doing the one thing they are supposed to be doing, making good porn, by forcing it on the players.

I'm the same, For a 3D game, I prefer when the game reward me with a nicely made cutscene than with a sex-animation giving me free movement control.

From my point of view, the result is way better, and as an exemple, When I'm comparing :

- A sex animation from a 3D game like Honey Select

- An animation like the one rf96 is showing in his signature (Nagoonimation / Linkle)

I would prefer th second one all day.


The problem with Subverse is that their sex scene lack context, and they need to be longer and not just a 4/5 seconds loop. We know we will get those cutscenes as a reward of their "romance quest" but I do hope we will get a lot of those and not something like 1 per waifu.

 

[Kardie222]

It's perfectly understandable to see people describing subverse as the "best game on F95".

Oof, that must be a really low bar then.

 

[drguyo]

Meh, I don't think Subverse is going to be the huge double digit million dollar hit. I'm not even sure it's going to make back the kick starter money. If the game reaches 5 millions or heck even 3 million sells I'd be shocked.

House Party apparently made $5 mil, so if a true indie can do that, imagine what FOW can do

 

[Gsundheit]

Thank you very much, I am from Germany and can`t buy it

 

[SajuukKhar]

That's your opinion. By this logic you could say you don't like 3D games at all.

Well yes, everyone's post here are obviously their own opinions.... who would have thought otherwise?

I also find it funny how, most of the time, when people say "by this logic" the response almost never has anything to do with the argument presented.

Not all, or even most, 3D games are like Fallen Doll. Most 3D games are VNs like most porn games are in general. And those VNs are far better then Fallen Doll.

 

[Arousal]

Most 3D games are VNs like most porn games are in general. And those VNs are far better then Fallen Doll.

Sir, as respectful as I want to be towards your capability of judgement, you have just brought bullshitting to a whole new level
This is even not something the old but gold saying "to each their own" can explain

 

[SajuukKhar]

Sir, as respectful as I want to be towards your capability of judgement, you have just brought bullshitting to a whole new level
This is even not something the old but gold saying "to each their own" can explain

The ever infamous "I'm not actually going to bother to make any sort of argument, I'm just going to call you a bullshitter because I know I have no means to defend my stance" retort. Cute, childish, but cute.

I would, quite honestly, rather play anything over Fallen Doll or Wild Life. They aren't fun, they aren't even interesting. I've gotten more out of those awful DAZ 3D VNs then I have out of those games because there is at least something there.

 

[omegabox]

The ever infamous "I'm not actually going to bother to make any sort of argument, I'm just going to call you a bullshitter because I know I have no means to defend my stance" retort. Cute, childish, but cute.

Calling someone childish is basically the most childish thing one can do online, you know...

I'm try to be neutral here since it's more of a taste thing, but it's apparent that your standard of what is "good" is vastly different from the mainstream. Well simply look up the ratings of the games you mentioned on F95 and see for yourself.

 

[Gsundheit]

Is there any way to open it without Steam? I can`t open it because I am from Germany and it is here blocked from Steam. Now I have it on my PC but can`t open it. Please help

 

[SajuukKhar]

Calling someone childish is basically the most childish thing one can do online, you know...

I'm try to be neutral here since it's more of a taste thing, but it's apparent that your standard of what is "good" is vastly different from the mainstream. Well simply look up the ratings of the games you mentioned on F95 and see for yourself.

Ratings are one of the least useful metrics of game popularity anywhere, be it here/Steam/Metacritic/wherever. The vast majority of people don't rate games in the first place, which skews ratings to the hardcore, and thus makes them non representative of the mainstream. This is skewed even further in recent years due to stupid stuff like brigades of people vote bombing/pushing up review scores. And the fact that more specialty sites such as this one tend to rate things as either 5 stars or 1 star, with little in the way of nuanced middle opinions.

If you want to look at mainstream you would need to look at what the highest selling/most funded games are, since those are far more accurate statistics to measure to what most people like then ratings are. And, even in the Japanese market, VNs, or games with RPG-lite mechanics like Evenicle, are the overwhelming majority of porn games. Things akin to Fallen Doll, such as Honey Select, aren't a particularly common kind of game. And while HS is by no means an unpopular/niche game, it by no means represents the general market even there.

The same is true of western porn games. Out of the top 100 adult video game creators on Patreon, theres all of like two in this category. Those being Fallen Doll, and Wild Life. And Dark Cookie is currently sitting at number 1, with nearly 3 times as many patrons as Wild Life has, and 1.7 times as many patrons as Fallen Doll does. Subverse itself was one of the most funded games out there, and was the global top seller on Steam, and it marketed itself as nothing like games like HS/FD/WL.

The overwhelming majority of people throwing money at western porn devs aren't doing it for games like HS/FD/WL, they are doing it for more VN style games, or RPG-lite kinds of games. Games like FD, and WL, represent a far more niche market, and are the definition of not mainstream because of it.

 

[Razrback16]

Is there any way to open it without Steam? I can`t open it because I am from Germany and it is here blocked from Steam. Now I have it on my PC but can`t open it. Please help

Check a page or two back - there is info on the crack files as well as a separate pre-cracked torrent.

 

[Gsundheit]

Check a page or two back - there is info on the crack files as well as a separate pre-cracked torrent.

thank you very much, it work. Your great

 

[tacirid726]

[Cheat Engine Table]
(you need cheat engine to use it. Duh.)

Spoiler: explanation, ignore unless you want details.

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• Download, extract anywhere and open it.
• Click the glowing PC icon top left
• Select the game (which is the same name as the CE file)
• Keep current code list? Yes
• Continue game or Start New game.

If the 3 values in CE change to the ones matching Bio/Tek/Creds in the game, gg wp ez.​

If the 3 values are ??? or a random number, it won't work.​

(you HAVE to pass the tutorial first and unlock the upgrade menu.)​

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Update: All 3 PP added.

doesn't work for me. how do you find the values?