Joshua Tree

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after reading all 173 paages...

this game is garbage but polished better than 99.9% of porn games seems to be the consesus
It's more like "Do you want a bit of game with your PORN", or do you want a bit of porn with your GAME"...

People made up their mind about what the "GAME" should have been before it was released and got disappointed, but that is on them. Hype and to high expectations is never good.
 

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It's more like "Do you want a bit of game with your PORN", or do you want a bit of porn with your GAME"...

People made up their mind about what the "GAME" should have been before it was released and got disappointed, but that is on them. Hype and to high expectations is never good.
Nah.

Me personally I saw the writing on the wall.

When I saw it was a studioFOW property and I know I dislike 99% of their works I was ready to ignore the project. When they said, they were targeting more mainstream appeal, I thought I might as well pay attention. Hearing stuff like, mass effect with porn, and gather alien waifus and go on adventures, I thought, hey maybe this won't be so bad. Was especially hopeful with the designs of the girls.

Then I saw mantic content. They said they'd include it so as to not disappoint their longtime fans and so of course I thought well that's a shame. Then I heard from them that adult content is set completely separate from the main game because they want to let you choose which scenes to unlock, and I realized I'd never be happy with it. Seriously, who would want to romance a girl who fucks a dog in her spare time.


They're just cowards.


They were too scared of their own sexual proclivities to make it a part of the main narrative. If they were honest about their own desires, I would've ignored the game entirely, just like other NTR/Bestiality and their other works. But no, they caved to fan pressure knowing entirely they weren't on board with making a game with general appeal in sexual content.

They focused their efforts on to non-erotic elements because they as designers couldn't design their games around the sexual content, in a way where interacting with the sexual content was a part of playing the game.

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What's the most disappointing about this whole situation though is the fan reaction.
So many fans are extremely disappointed and angry.

I'm just here thinking... how.
How did they not see this coming?

This all came from information they themselves gave as the game was going through its development process.
Everyone had full access to StudioFOW's prior works so everyone should know where they are sexually.

Nothing about the EA is a surprise. Literally nothing, but the SHOCK the fans have is insane. I'm just learning that consumers really can be quite stupid.

after reading all 173 paages...

this game is garbage but polished better than 99.9% of porn games seems to be the consesus
It's an Unreal Engine 4 game with custom 3D models, voice acting, and good UI design.
It's really high quality in general presentation, and that should definitely be respected.
 
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lumine99

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anyone got torrent for this giant?? 17 gigs not on torrent is a nightmare to download... PS: all torrent post in this tread is gone I presume.. soo can anyone DM me?

Thank you in advance
 

Joshua Tree

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They're just cowards.
Your own game got a "rape tag" that is content not allowed on Patreon, would you be a coward and roll over for Patreon, if got called out on it, or stand up for your project?

Or people play your game and doesn't want the rape stuff, is it optional? Give players a option to pick what scenes they want to unlock rather than force content on them they would just shut down the game over is just sensible. Just look at how fast threads descend into a dumpsterfire over ntr vs no ntr in many games where "suddenly ntr".....

Afaik the Mass Effect reference was to "Mass Effect like exploration", which it do have. How the Waifu loyality mission/quests and rewards end up, yet to be seen.
 

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[Cheat Engine Table]
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  • Download, extract anywhere and open it.
  • Click the glowing PC icon top left
  • Select the game (which is the same name as the CE file)
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If the 3 values in CE change to the ones matching Bio/Tek/Creds in the game, gg wp ez.​
If the 3 values are ??? or a random number, it won't work.​
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Update: All 3 PP added.
i tried your file but it seems to not work for my pc. the values for all bio, tek, creds, PP are ??. need help
 

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anyone got torrent for this giant?? 17 gigs not on torrent is a nightmare to download... PS: all torrent post in this tread is gone I presume.. soo can anyone DM me?

Thank you in advance
Look a couple pages back, someone had posted one.
 

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Your own game got a "rape tag" that is content not allowed on Patreon, would you be a coward and roll over for Patreon, if got called out on it, or stand up for your project?

Or people play your game and doesn't want the rape stuff, is it optional? Give players a option to pick what scenes they want to unlock rather than force content on them they would just shut down the game over is just sensible. Just look at how fast threads descend into a dumpsterfire over ntr vs no ntr in many games where "suddenly ntr".....

Afaik the Mass Effect reference was to "Mass Effect like exploration", which it do have. How the Waifu loyality mission/quests and rewards end up, yet to be seen.
You're trying to make it complicated when it's stupid simple.

You make the game you want to make.
Whether people come to play or not depends on their tastes.

If they like your content they'll support you. If they don't they'll ignore you.

If you try to cater to everyone, your content will be diluted and less people will like your game.

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For imagination, imagine a game that has 10 scenes.

Let's say you're a normal aggressive guy who likes aggressive scenes where guys take the lead with women.
That game with 10 scenes is trying to appeal to "everyone" though.

Half the scenes in the game are gay, so for you you only have 5 scenes that could do anything for you.
Half of those heterosexual scenes are scenes with beasts so you have 2.5.
Half of those 2.5 human scenes, are male assertive so at the end of the day that game that has 6 scenes really only has 1.25 scenes you'd even enjoy. Out of 10.

You want to know how to avoid this?

Just make the content you as the developer wants to make.
If you like rape, then put in rape. Rape fans will go to your game.
If you like normal sex then make it normal.

Trying to appeal to everyone dilutes the game.
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It also ruins the consistency of the sexual experience.
Femdom games have game systems that make the game feel like femdom. The sexual elements are actually present in the way the game plays. Maledom games have the same thing.

If you try to appeal for everyone, you can't design the sexual experience into the game itself.

Your own game got a "rape tag" that is content not allowed on Patreon, would you be a coward and roll over for Patreon, if got called out on it, or stand up for your project?
That's what happened to me.
I'm not trying to rely on patreon funding so I kept the game as it is and just removed offending content from patreon.
 
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Joshua Tree

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If you try to appeal for everyone, you can't design the sexual experience into the game itself.


That's what happened to me.
I'm not trying to rely on patreon funding so I kept the game as it is and just removed offending content from patreon.
When you turn into an actual game studio, you want to try reach as many as possible, you run a business after all. Have your players/audience pick their own content type in an adult game make sense when release on such a platform for the mainstream. You already make a game for the niche market. Why break it down even further to just target a small audience of that niche market?

You rolled over for Patreon and changed your creation. Isn't that being cowardly?
 

TheUnsaid

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You rolled over for Patreon and changed your creation. Isn't that being cowardly?
I didn't XD
Game's still the same content.

When you turn into an actual game studio, you want to try reach as many as possible, you run a business after all. Have your players/audience pick their own content type in an adult game make sense when release on such a platform for the mainstream. You already make a game for the niche market. Why break it down even further to just target a small audience of that niche market?
You can't even apply that logic to normal AAA games and have it make sense, or everyone would be making looter shooters.
 

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The next two updates will be decisive.

The first one will show us how often player can expect a content update and also how much content Studio Fow can bring in during that time.

The Second one will show us how they will improve the pandora system.

God, I can't wait to see the potentiel shitshow we will have here after each update.
 
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Joshua Tree

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I didn't XD
Game's still the same content.


You can't even apply that logic to normal AAA games and have it make sense, or everyone would be making looter shooters.
Welcome to Outriders, the next looter shooter... You where saying? How did Amazon's looter shooter fare? Oh yeah... it didn't... How about Anthem? Issue isn't making yet another looter shooter, the issue is they make CRAP GAMES, regardless of what it is. Modern day AAA games is all about put a straw into your pocket. Everyone out to make the "next" Fortnite, or Candy Crush, or whatever.

How many "adult" games on this site just follow the same formula? Very few actually bring something original to the table or a story that at least make you raise your eyebrows.

If you did change something to comply, you did bend the knee :ROFLMAO:
 

Joshua Tree

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The next two updates will be decisive.

The first one will show us how often player can expect a content update and also how much content Studio Fow can bring in during that time.

The Second one will show us how they will improve the pandora system.

God, I can't wait to the potentiel shitshow we will have here after each update.
You could always check out this great gem meanwhile :ROFLMAO:

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If you did change something to comply, you did bend the knee
Good thing I didn't then? Don't know why I have to repeat myself so much...

Welcome to Outriders, the next looter shooter... You where saying? How did Amazon's looter shooter fare? Oh yeah... it didn't... How about Anthem? Issue isn't making yet another looter shooter, the issue is they make CRAP GAMES, regardless of what it is. Modern day AAA games is all about put a straw into your pocket. Everyone out to make the "next" Fortnite, or Candy Crush, or whatever.
Exactly.
I never said the attempts were successful. In fact I alluded the opposite. Doesn't mean they aren't an attempt to reach the most amount of people by trying to be as safe as possible trying to appeal to as many people as they can.
Even in AAA it doesn't work.

How many "adult" games on this site just follow the same formula? Very few actually bring something original to the table or a story that at least make you raise your eyebrows.
This game isn't even top 20 among the games I've played.
Among early access games I follow for me. I follow like 10-15, and it's definitely not up there with the others I follow.

Trying to say games worse than this exist doesn't make this look better.
 

Joshua Tree

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This game isn't even top 20 among the games I've played.
Among early access games I follow for me. I follow like 10-15, and it's definitely not up there with the others I follow.

Trying to say games worse than this exist doesn't make this look better.
How much of an actual game, is the top 20 games then? How much effort of interaction and effort does it require of you? FOW stated they where making a game foremost. A game with adult lewdness. Not just a porn game. There is better out there, but for a early access 0.1 release, it would be hard pressed to find another 0.1 release that would beat it in content.

Majority of the "games" on this site can be played by Homer Simpsons "typing bird"... :rolleyes:

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How much of an actual game, is the top 20 games then? How much effort of interaction and effort does it require of you?
All of them.
Most good h-games require you to actually play the game and interact with it or else they wouldn't be called games.

FOW stated they where making a game foremost. A game with adult lewdness. Not just a porn game.
Plenty of games have done that before, but it seems like they aren't willing to learn from them.
 

Joshua Tree

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All of them.
Most good h-games require you to actually play the game and interact with it or else they wouldn't be called games.


Plenty of games have done that before, but it seems like they aren't willing to learn from them.
I suppose you got a short list of 20 names to go with then?
 

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Eh, I already could tell how this was going to go when the kickstarter program went up. While I enjoyed their animations, I had zero believe that they would even attempt to make a game about those fetishes or content and I knew as a game, it was either not going to be something that i enjoy or just lackluster in general.

While I won't say anything negative to those that backed the game or those who like it but I'm pretty happy about not backing it in the end.
 
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