Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Joshua Tree]

I like to separate complain and criticize. most people that complain are just mental and nitpick. the critics actually provide some good feedback. which there rarely any of those lol people go monke brain in forums a lot it seems

I meant more more complain about the "value" of their free gains... As for critics, I like to read critics, feedback etc where the poster actually post something structured and not reflect the tantrum of a 5yr old.

 

[Pikachu2k]

Is it to much work for you to got to their site?

This is just stupid and most likely intentionally missing the poing again by a mile, but was to be expected.

So then why are they continuing to post the full-length updates on Steam? Too much work for people there to go to their site?

Why was that announcement initially only made on Discord? Too much work for them to post it as a regular update on Kickstarter?

And when it did show up on Kickstarter two weeks later, why not as a regular update (which would give backers an email notifaction about it) but just in the general comments section (which doesn't)? Too much work to handle that?

So of course you're attacking me instead for being lazy because it's unthinakable to maybe, just maybe your idols you want to suck up could have handled something in a less than perfect way.

Aside from that, the statement does contain exactly zero explanation, which the guy who posted it (supposedly a team member) even does admit when asked again about it. Not that this matters to you in your holy crusade to defend everything.

 

[Joshua Tree]

This is just stupid and most likely intentionally missing the poing again by a mile, but was to be expected.

So then why are they continuing to post the full-length updates on Steam? Too much work for people there to go to their site?

Why they are posting full length updates on their primary site of selling the game? Yeah imagine that....

 

[Pikachu2k]

Why they are posting full length updates on their primary site of selling the game? Yeah imagine that....

Your mental gymnastics are impressive in their absurdity.

That's still not the main issue which you still do everything to not address, because you obvioussly can't (and why should you, since as much as you may idolize FOW, they probably don't even know about their relentless cheerleade) and certainly wouldn't if you could, because there's no good reason.

But not offering that really simple to achieve courtesy to the people who gave them the money in the first place to even be able to build something to sell on Steam, that's totally fine and not even a bit ungracious in your option, I guess. Got it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Your mental gymnastics are impressive in their absurdity.

That's still not the main issue which you still do everything to not address, because you can't and certainly wouldn't if you could, because there's no good reason.

But not offering that really simple to achieve courtesy to the people who gave them the money in the first place to even be able to build something to sell on Steam, that's totally fine in your warped mind. Got it.

You know the people that got steam keys for supporting them on kickstarter, get all updates to the game through steam right?

You REALLY digging deep to make a big issue out of a nothing burger...

 

[Pikachu2k]

You know the people that got steam keys for supporting them on kickstarter, get all updates to the game through steam right?

You REALLY digging deep to make a big issue out of a nothing burger...

This still does not answer the question. Of course.

It's indeed not that big an isssue, but strangely enough you're spending a LOT of effort to dispute, belittle and distract from it so that nothing at all might tarnish your idols.

I really should know there's no point in arguing with cult members, but unfortunately sometimes I can't help myself.

 

[Grand Koala]

high profile porn game in the west? thats a good sign ^^ i hope it becomes a trend. i wouldve bought this one but steam doesnt seell it in my region. so thx!

 

[arpaschad]

.13 and its on steam for nearly 30 bucks? I'd laugh if I didnt want to feel sorry for those who bought it.....

I think that's the standard price you pay for the whole game from now until it eventually gets finished...not sure...someone mentioned it here somewhere many pages back...

but then again some people have more disposable income than sense in paying for a demo...

but what do I know:

Yo ho! thieves and beggars...never shall we die...

 

[Joshua Tree]

I think that's the standard price you pay for the whole game from now until it eventually gets finished...not sure...someone mentioned it here somewhere many pages back...

but then again some people have more disposable income than sense in paying for a demo...

but what do I know:

Yo ho! thieves and beggars...never shall we die...

tbh, 30 bucks up front vs pledge to some creator that spend 3+ years on make a game... I rather pay up front any day. They said price would go up once the game out of early access though.

A demo doesn't get updated with new content as time go on though. A demo stay a demo. See those people that start to cry about links for updates and cracks when the game get updated? Those that bought it get all that free of hassle at a click of a button on steam.. no added cost..

 

[arpaschad]

tbh, 30 bucks up front vs pledge to some creator that spend 3+ years on make a game... I rather pay up front any day. They said price would go up once the game out of early access though.

A demo doesn't get updated with new content as time go on though. A demo stay a demo. See those people that start to cry about links for updates and cracks when the game get updated? Those that bought it get all that free of hassle at a click of a button on steam.. no added cost..

Like you said It's better to pay upfront...

and since you mentioned the price will go up once the game does get finished the more reason why it is better to wait for the full-priced product than this early access stuff...

 

[Joshua Tree]

Like you said It's better to pay upfront...

and since you mentioned the price will go up once the game does get finished the more reason why it is better to wait for the full-priced product than this early access stuff...

Uh, why? You get the "full game" with the early access. You don't have to pay any more to get the full product. Next content update, steam will update the game for those that got it there.

 

[Kernist]

You get the "full game" with the early access.

Except you don't. There are games that never come out of EA. There are games where developer is just bored and says "meh, ok, this build is final, let's say it's "finished" game). It is more of "Maybe in the future you will get a full game with the Early Access". And with the pace Studio FOW is doing it I am afraid I will die of old age before final release.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Except you don't. There are games that never come out of EA. There are games where developer is just bored and says "meh, ok, this build is final, let's say it's "finished" game). It is more of "Maybe in the future you will get a full game with the Early Access". And with the pace Studio FOW is doing it I am afraid I will die of old age before final release.

Which you can say about every game on this site that doesn't have the complete tag. And issue is again? I guess you don't pledge to any creator at all, because of that risk right?

 

[fricknaysh420]

I do think its better to just buy it at EA state because in the case that it does "release" and it still feels like its in EA state then you still saved like an extra 30 dollars. I feel like people that think its better to buy in its "completed" state are kinda scamming themselves. we live in time where games will never feel completed because of over promise that devs screw themselves with. so with that logic why buy a non completed game for full price when you can get it for half or less then half lol.

 

[Kernist]

I do think its better to just buy it at EA state because in the case that it does "release" and it still feels like its in EA state then you still saved like an extra 30 dollars. I feel like people that think its better to buy in its "completed" state are kinda scamming themselves. we live in time where games will never feel completed because of over promise that devs screw themselves with. so with that logic why buy a non completed game for full price when you can get it for half or less then half lol.

What kind of logic is that?
1. Game will not be 30$ more expensive after release, only 10$ iirc.
2. That's why this site exist. You can test the game before purchasing and decide on your own if you want to buy it or not.
3. If you decide you want the game but not for 30$ you can wait for sale and buy it cheaper one day.

Your reasoning is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this forum.

 

[Kernist]

Which you can say about every game on this site that doesn't have the complete tag. And issue is again? I guess you don't pledge to any creator at all, because of that risk right?

Yes, exactly. Subverse was the first and made me regret it. If you don't know what the issue is here then I am afraid I cannot help you.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Yes, exactly. Subverse was the first and made me regret it. If you don't know what the issue is here then I am afraid I cannot help you.

Well, someone is leeches all their life and others support creators.. If no one ever did take a chance on early access or pledge to creators during the creation process, you would had very slim pickings when it come to adult games on this site.

 

[Kernist]

Well, someone is leeches all their life and others support creators.. If no one ever did take a chance on early access or pledge to creators during the creation process, you would had very slim pickings when it come to adult games on this site.

It only applies to western releases. Eastern releases sell us already finished products on dlsite. Sadly adult market on the west is not developed at all and everything is based on KS/patreon, that means pay for the product before you even know it's worth. I am the person who prefer to wait for finished game. If that makes me "leecher" then I am proud of it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

It only applies to western releases. Eastern releases sell us already finished products on dlsite. Sadly adult market on the west is not developed at all and everything is based on KS/patreon, that means pay for the product before you even know it's worth. I am the person who prefer to wait for finished game. If that makes me "leecher" then I am proud of it.

I guess you can show to a waste library on steam of adult games that was released at full then. Or maybe not?

 

[Kernist]

I guess you can show to a waste library on steam of adult games that was released at full then. Or maybe not?

I don't really understand what do you mean by that.