Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Kernist]

I do think its better to just buy it at EA state because in the case that it does "release" and it still feels like its in EA state then you still saved like an extra 30 dollars. I feel like people that think its better to buy in its "completed" state are kinda scamming themselves. we live in time where games will never feel completed because of over promise that devs screw themselves with. so with that logic why buy a non completed game for full price when you can get it for half or less then half lol.

What kind of logic is that?
1. Game will not be 30$ more expensive after release, only 10$ iirc.
2. That's why this site exist. You can test the game before purchasing and decide on your own if you want to buy it or not.
3. If you decide you want the game but not for 30$ you can wait for sale and buy it cheaper one day.

Your reasoning is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this forum.

 

[Kernist]

Which you can say about every game on this site that doesn't have the complete tag. And issue is again? I guess you don't pledge to any creator at all, because of that risk right?

Yes, exactly. Subverse was the first and made me regret it. If you don't know what the issue is here then I am afraid I cannot help you.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Yes, exactly. Subverse was the first and made me regret it. If you don't know what the issue is here then I am afraid I cannot help you.

Well, someone is leeches all their life and others support creators.. If no one ever did take a chance on early access or pledge to creators during the creation process, you would had very slim pickings when it come to adult games on this site.

 

[Kernist]

Well, someone is leeches all their life and others support creators.. If no one ever did take a chance on early access or pledge to creators during the creation process, you would had very slim pickings when it come to adult games on this site.

It only applies to western releases. Eastern releases sell us already finished products on dlsite. Sadly adult market on the west is not developed at all and everything is based on KS/patreon, that means pay for the product before you even know it's worth. I am the person who prefer to wait for finished game. If that makes me "leecher" then I am proud of it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

It only applies to western releases. Eastern releases sell us already finished products on dlsite. Sadly adult market on the west is not developed at all and everything is based on KS/patreon, that means pay for the product before you even know it's worth. I am the person who prefer to wait for finished game. If that makes me "leecher" then I am proud of it.

I guess you can show to a waste library on steam of adult games that was released at full then. Or maybe not?

 

[Kernist]

I guess you can show to a waste library on steam of adult games that was released at full then. Or maybe not?

I don't really understand what do you mean by that.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I don't really understand what do you mean by that.

As you will find many "eastern" full release games there as well..

 

[Kernist]

As you will find many "eastern" full release games there as well..

That's why best place to buy is dlsite. I have 48 adult games on Steam, many, many more on dlsite and a lot of drm free games from indiegala. Steam is not and probably won't ever be a good store for adult games.

 

[RandoCard3]

What's the best way to keep track of progress on this game?

 

[lollapoza]

What's the best way to keep track of progress on this game?

Wait until they make the game.

 

[frostbeast4]

When does the new version come out?

 

[Joshua Tree]

What's the best way to keep track of progress on this game?

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Borgoff32]

When does the new version come out?

if they stick to the schedule they want to keep new update could be end of this month (prolly not tho) or sometime next month but thats only if they keep the 2-3month release they want to

 

[leejun670]

dude. i stuck with eula. i need help (i play pirate game)

 

[Razrback16]

1. Game will not be 30$ more expensive after release, only 10$ iirc.
2. That's why this site exist. You can test the game before purchasing and decide on your own if you want to buy it or not.
3. If you decide you want the game but not for 30$ you can wait for sale and buy it cheaper one day.

Ya I'm really thankful for this site. There's a few I've played that I'm just waiting to become available on Steam and I will buy them immediately at full price. It's nice being able to test drive things you've either never heard of until this site, or a game like Subverse where I was following it closely for two years but wasn't sure about some things and wanted to check it out before pulling the trigger on it. Being able to take that test drive really saves us from disappointment sometimes.

 

[Evilfish82]

It's only a few for a number of reasons: 1) its 0.1, the amount given is just enough to be unlocked by what's currently in the story. I'm sure if they'd packed in like 20 for each girl so far, there'd be complaints that there's no way to get everything at the current build.

2) They've explained that they only put a small amount of animations in there to see if the system functioned properly, and to gain initial feedback. Imagine if every animation had been done already, but then it turned out (as comments here and elsewhere show) that not everyone liked it? That'd be a whole lot more work to redo.

Look, I'm not a hater or anything but I'd be pretty fucking deluded not to see the whole thing going through the motions. I really want the game to be completed, but it's looking more and more like one of those scams. The tide of fanboys who have to personally apologize for every post that is short of praising the ground the devs walk upon while assuring them that they can take all the time in the world for their updates. In fact if the next update comes in a century that would be too soon, their bones would be unworthy. Those are the first symptom of the failure and while it's not under the dev's control (make no mistake, they love fanboys) the fact that they are starting to make excuses, that the work is too hard even if they got a small fortune, miles better than they could have hoped for, the updates are small and far in between. Not a peep from them for two weeks. That kind of silence is odd if nothing else.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong, I hope that's me being overly negative but from something from the graveyard of scam games which is quite huge, tells me I'm not.

 

[Razrback16]

Look, I'm not a hater or anything but I'd be pretty fucking deluded not to see the whole thing going through the motions. I really want the game to be completed, but it's looking more and more like one of those scams. The tide of fanboys who have to personally apologize for every post that is short of praising the ground the devs walk upon while assuring them that they can take all the time in the world for their updates. In fact if the next update comes in a century that would be too soon, their bones would be unworthy. Those are the first symptom of the failure and while it's not under the dev's control (make no mistake, they love fanboys) the fact that they are starting to make excuses, that the work is too hard even if they got a small fortune, miles better than they could have hoped for, the updates are small and far in between. Not a peep from them for two weeks. That kind of silence is odd if nothing else.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong, I hope that's me being overly negative but from something from the graveyard of scam games which is quite huge, tells me I'm not.

You make a lot of excellent points. Like you, I'm hoping they make a lot of improvements based on the feedback they received on the game. It would be nice if maybe in the next blog update they provide some specifics on what kind of improvements they're working on, or how they are addressing people's concerns specifically. The general mentions of the last blog entry sound good, but specifics would be better.

 

[arpaschad]

Uh, why? You get the "full game" with the early access. You don't have to pay any more to get the full product. Next content update, steam will update the game for those that got it there.

I really am not comfortable with early access since I'm more of an old school consumer ''show me the final price of something and I will buy it''

there are many factors that will come into play as the game goes into the development phase...more bugs will be found, implementation of features won't be as expected or as promised etc. and I'm not gonna be paying for something that ''may or maybe'' to the detriment of me enjoying the game...

I'd rather buy it in its final finished form with all the bugs and problems ironed out and maybe with a $60-70 price tag slapped into it knowing I won't be waiting for another month of content drips...

TL;DR: my philosophy on Early access games is: avoid them until completion. then when complete fork over for the full price or wait for it to go to sale...

 

[Joshua Tree]

I really am not comfortable with early access since I'm more of an old school consumer ''show me the final price of something and I will buy it''

there are many factors that will come into play as the game goes into the development phase...more bugs will be found, implementation of features won't be as expected or as promised etc. and I'm not gonna be paying for something that ''may or maybe'' to the detriment of me enjoying the game...

I'd rather buy it in its final finished form with all the bugs and problems ironed out and maybe with a $60-70 price tag slapped into it knowing I won't be waiting for another month of content drips...

TL;DR: my philosophy on Early access games is: avoid them until completion. then when complete fork over for the full price or wait for it to go to sale...

So for the same reasons you would never pledge to or support a creator of any games on this site then that doesn't carry a "completed" tag? Because in reality all is early access with work in progress.

I got several early access games in my steam library. Some I'm less happy with than others. But none I truly regret I bought in the first place. There is way more creators of adult games I regret supporting on Patreon over time though. But doesn't keep me from giving new ones a fair chance.

 

[arpaschad]

So for the same reasons you would never pledge to or support a creator of any games on this site then that doesn't carry a "completed" tag? Because in reality all is early access with work in progress.

I got several early access games in my steam library. Some I'm less happy with than others. But none I truly regret I bought in the first place. There is way more creators of adult games I regret supporting on Patreon over time though. But doesn't keep me from giving new ones a fair chance.

IMO isn't buying the game from them WHEN it is finished and forking over the full price still supporting these same game designers?

at least it's infinitely better than just leeching off here in f95zone or any similar sites (No Offense to the majority of the people here..I am not completely blameless as well lol) and still complaining ad infinitum...

It's just that many people other than me aren't comfortable in putting money on something that may or may not be finished but would rather pay for something that is already completed?

I know Studio FOW is a stellar company when it comes to animations and I will support them for that but as a game designer? I am not confident enough for that especially seeing this is their first-ever foray into game development (those LoL-themed flash games don't count though IMO).

So to answer your question: NO...I don't do Early Access as a matter of principle...give me the finished product with most if not all the issues sorted out I'll happily pay for it even it costs some limbs...