VN Ren'Py Succession [Demo] [Covert Ape]

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Naps-On-Dirt

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i was intrigued by the game and honestly hope that the implication of sandbox was misleading. i would like to see where the story goes and sandbox is for the most part a VN killer.
I get the impression it will be the occasional free-roam like in BaDIK, although those got pretty long eventually. I don't mind those too much, but I think that game had too many find-the-pixel minigames in them. It got to the point in later chapters that I just stopped looking for the silly things and just followed the story and got a gallery unlocker instead.
 
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Nice job insulting people and blanket projecting that onto everyone who was displeased with the character. I'm not going to speak for everyone who was unhappy with her, but I'll explain why I was.

This is a porn game. Everyone has different sexual preferences. Something I'm personally not into is "loose women", whether that be strippers, camgirls, onlyfans models, or sexually promiscuous love interests. That's not self insetion or "incel fantasies", that's just a matter of being turned off by it. A good example is not liking something like rape porn—that doesn't mean someone is "self inserting", they just don't like rape.

The developer is specifically asking for feedback. People are giving feedback. Don't get on your moral high horse because you personally disagree with said feedback.
Don't pay attention. This seems like another attempt by NTR fans to label people who don't share their tastes as incels. It's a bit disturbing that the developer "supported" this, but I hope it's only out of politeness.
 

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Don't pay attention. This seems like another attempt by NTR fans to label people who don't share their tastes as incels. It's a bit disturbing that the developer "supported" this, but I hope it's only out of politeness.
Please, see the 2 quoted posts below & just move on.......


Thanks for taking the feedback of us with warm reception, especially given we are simply ranting out opinions :KEK:.

I do wish the talk about Kitty and loose woman/LI's fidelity etc etc talk would stop from people though.
My personal thoughts on the matter putting aside, both sides have shared their takes on it and it just seems to be going on and on.
Such matter ongoing I just don't see it boding well for this thread with endless argument back and forth.

Same issue was present in another game's (name which I won't mention) thread on this site, and at one point it had gotten so bad that a moderator had to intervene and did a mass-deletion ("mass cleansing") of whole bunch of posts because the thread became a literal dumpster fire of in-fighting mess.

Here's hoping both sides of that debate just move on (instead discuss other more positive aspects of the game) and history doesn't repeat again here.....
I agree. We're just here to make love not war (and sexy games, obviously.)

I hope there's a little something in the game that suits everyone's 'perfect girl' tastes, and it's totally ok if they don't live up to every single person's expectations. The girls are who they are.

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Why? :confused: I have no problem with this game (almost: I don't like forced relationships from the beginning of the game, because if I have to dump the girl later, I'll feel like an asshole). Otherwise, I like it.
lol did you even read the quoted post?
Going on and on about the whole Kitty and the loose woman and fidelity aspect, people have been arguing about it for days now.

That being extended to the whole "I hate NTR" vs "I support NTR" regardless of what one likes that endless argument is the quickest way for a thread to become a dumpster fire.
Seen it happen in several other games threads till now on this site.

Do you really want this to go on which inevitably would result in the thread getting a mass-cleansing (mass deletion of posts) with warnings from the moderator?
Cause I sure don't.
And what you're doing isn't helping things with your reply to that post.

What I mean by moving on is, as I said in my quoted post (that is, if you even bothered to read, I'm guessing not, given your post lol) talk about other things about the game instead of adding fuel to the fire (and this isn't just you, same applies to people aguing for the other side as well, I'm referring to both sides).
 
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Why doesn't Claudia get a bio in the cast introductions? She's getting a vote so I assume her role will be just as prominent as the others.

Lorde doesn't even appear in the demo but she got a spot.

I'm fine with there being so many asshole characters as long as they stay assholes and that I don't get punished for not being nice to them.

There's nothing that pisses me off more than writers making me endure the abuse of assholes, only to be forced through some kind of redemption arc where I have to empathize with their sob story or circumstances. Where I have to be the bigger man in order to get along with someone that would never extend that curtesy to someone themselves. Don't do that thing where she gets to be a selfish stone cold bitch all the time but if I give her the same treatment she starts to cry and make ME feel bad. Keep all the rich assholes as rich assholes so that I can win this contest without it being some guilt trip where I have to feel bad for the losers.
 
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I mean, I really love Bella as a LI, but it is what it is I suppose.
Different strokes for different folks, some will love a LI, some will hate a LI.

I think I remember dev of this game saying before with every LI, the player can decide whether MC romances or not?
But I'd guess there still would be at least some degree of minimum interaction even if the relationship is kept platonic & not romantic.
Ok I've played through a couple chapters of SnowStorm and I see what you mean. The primary difference between them and why I didn't like Bella is that she enjoyed being an asshole to everyone. She thought it was a fun idea to play a pretty mean spirited prank on a complete stranger on their first day of college, and not once did she offer any hint of apology to the MC or his step sister for it later on in the story. Instead her behavior continued and escalated. It was her hobby.

Mathilda on the other hand has something going on making her keep men at arms length, but she's not out pranking people and going out of her way to be a bitch. She's doing it defensively.


This game doesn't have the harem tag (yet?) which implies we're not necessarily supposed to try to sleep with all four women. So I hope that they each have a platonic path, and I hope it isn't minimum interaction! :) I mean I also would want an option on each LI to have minimal interaction just for principle's sake, but I wouldn't expect to use them personally in this game. This dev has already proven that her writing is better than the average AVN trope; I started this demo expecting to dismiss half the LIs outright and that did not even come close to happening.

Games where the decision to pursue an LI or not is made before any serious flirting starts are better than when story-enforced flirting ends up with a disappointed LI if you don't choose her. The better method is to gate the MC's flirting attempts behind the decision on whether he is interested or not so that they can continue their relationship without a rejection causing awkwardness. Just wanted to throw that out there. :D
 
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Ok I've played through a couple chapters of SnowStorm and I see what you mean. The primary difference between them and why I didn't like Bella is that she enjoyed being an asshole to everyone. She thought it was a fun idea to play a pretty mean spirited prank on a complete stranger on their first day of college, and not once did she offer any hint of apology to the MC or his step sister for it later on in the story. Instead her behavior continued and escalated. It was her hobby.
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Mathilda on the other hand has something going on making her keep men at arms length, but she's not out pranking people and going out of her way to be a bitch. She's doing it defensively.
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This game doesn't have the harem tag (yet?) which implies we're not necessarily supposed to try to sleep with all four women. So I hope that they each have a platonic path, and I hope it isn't minimum interaction! :) I mean I also would want an option on each LI to have minimal interaction just for principle's sake, but I wouldn't expect to use them personally in this game. This dev has already proven that her writing is better than the average AVN trope; I started this demo expecting to dismiss half the LIs outright and that did not even come close to happening.

Games where the decision to pursue an LI or not is made before any serious flirting starts are better than when story-enforced flirting ends up with a disappointed LI if you don't choose her. The better method is to gate the MC's flirting attempts behind the decision on whether he is interested or not so that they can continue their relationship without a rejection causing awkwardness. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Dev said there will be opportunities for harem;

https://f95zone.to/threads/succession-demo-covert-ape.243595/post-16117164

So I'm guessing it will be harem with option for solo route (for any who wish to either just pursue one) or partial harem (for those who may opt out with any specific LI).
 
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Hey.
Nice demo CovertApe

First of all - I think it's a great idea with Cast Section with characters and their backstories, it's always good to know who are LIs.

Also thanks for giving an option to turn down Kitty, I don't mind her and MC having a past, just not a huge fan when LIs are forced on me romantically.

Besides Kitty all LIs (ones we met at least) look interesting, each in her own way.
So far my favourites would be Catherine and Suki.
Yeah, Cath is a spoiled bitch (at least she wants us to think this way), but that's fine, I am sooo gonna still her from her hubby)).
Though at this moment I'm not sure it will be stealing but more like a rescue mission for her "Howie" (joking :))

Not gonna comment on typos in dialogues here and there, but in general dialogues are fun and very easy to read.
The whole convo with Catherine was a blast lol, she has a sharp tongue and I like it, chat with Suki with her constant innuendos also was fine.

Few issues I'm sure have been already addressed:
- "Back" button in Cast Section doesn't work;
- There were misplaced/missing renders at the beginning
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Anyways, all in all - good premise, looking forward to see how the story goes.
Good luck.
 
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Well thats kinda annoying. Why did my reply get deleted at the tail end of a conversation (to be specific the 8th post in this quote-line since the other games were mentioned) about other games that the dev has approved of and been involved in? Was this a drive-by modding by someone that hasn't been reading the last few pages at all? :mad: :rolleyes:


The gist of the deleted post was that after the heretical discussion, I no longer believed that Catherine was similar to those other tsunderes that shan't be named. She was being haughty and standoffish with the MC, but as the dev said it is coming from a place of fear. Not for herself, she has her own title and husband. She was deferential to her mother and didn't show any ill will towards her siblings that I could see. I think she's scared that if the MC becomes heir he'll kick her family out of the household. In addition we should note that she and her twin are also a rags-to-riches story like the MC is now, just from a younger age. If the MC can offer an olive branch I don't think it will be difficult to find common ground with her. The big question is whether or not she is on good terms with her twin. He is such a chad fop that it's not impossible that they're not on good terms, so it may not be difficult to get her vote after all. :)
 
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We are exploring harem ending options, if people were to seek combinations of LIs out as part of their gameplay :) Watch this space. But it isn't inherently a 'harem game' as a genre.
if you are doing this to try toapeal to the harem crowd its likely a waste if its onlty certain combos. It would meetthe site definition but not the expectations of most when they see that tag expect it to mean the mccan be will all the LI in one play
 

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if you are doing this to try toapeal to the harem crowd its likely a waste if its onlty certain combos. It would meetthe site definition but not the expectations of most when they see that tag expect it to mean the mccan be will all the LI in one play
It would not be a waste of time. Sure, it wouldn't satisfy the Pure Harem faction, but who cares? I for one would love an ending in a throuple with Suki and her secret lover, one of the hot maids. (I'm just making shit up because we don't know any of the side characters yet, but you get the point.) Not to forget Kitty, and maybe we can add another sister and/or houseguest and/or servant to the FWB list. Whatever makes some semblance of sense within AVN porn logic and wouldn't be too difficult to add to the endings.
 
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