3.50 star(s) 104 Votes

dregatar

New Member
Jan 1, 2021
10
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I'm writing this as a former 16 month 20$ backer who had high hopes for this game, but with like all the things released in 2020, it came crumbling down.

We were promised 6 months ago that chapter 3 will come out in December. Along the way, we got monthly updates with silhouettes of succubus and various promises that this chapter will have multiple branching and more succubi than ever.

Then the news for the Kain injury came. These things happen and can impact development of a product, especially when it's the only artist currently working on things. So when the "demo C3" announcement came out I figured "it's ok, at least we'll see the majority of the chapter since the release date was set for December so most of the work is already done, the most important thing will be the artist to recover". Boy I was wrong.

When I started the chapter and saw the initial cutscenes, I thought it started things well, picking up where it left off, but then, I got stuck in a bland labyrinth, with nothing to do than roam around and find the actual succubi. No interactions, one piece of lore, no enemies, nothing. Then I got to all the 5 promised enemies. I've got to say, Kain is improving in his art. I digged the design and the various angles of the girls. Still, some scenes were some of the best written until now, but there were two which were 90% copy pasted from last two chapters. After defeating three of them we got one cutscene for each, after which we were allowed to cross a certain river. I knew there were no more enemies but I expected at least a scene with the Queen, a cutscene or at least a text to say "This was all, DUMBFUCK". I guess the content was so rushed that Zion forgot to implement something at the end of the demo.

So finally to the verdict: I feel like this latest update doesn't justify 6 months of work. I understand that the whole "this is a demo" excuse stands up, but this doesn't even feel like a demo, it's more like a shell, an empty one. It's not about the quantity, it's about the quality. Even if this was halfway through, it would still be disappointing. For a game which promised a rich universe and diversity, the world feels empty. Even the fights were the same, the same 2 attacks and 1 succubus temptation pattern. At least in the previous chapters the enemies had a different pattern or move orders. I get that there's gonna be a combat overhaul but I'm just trying to find out where the development time has gone. Sadly, I couldn't.


In conclusion, even if the main artist got injured and development couldn't progress because of it, I still expected for this demo to at least have some interesting content like some interactable NPCs, side cutscenes, literally anything. I got into this game when seeing the developer's ambition and passion for this game, but there's 0 passion here. This demo is two weeks development worth of content at most and a passionate dev would have dedicated his time to implementing various other things (just like you did in the prologue, with a touch to detail, funny interactions and character development).

I don't know if you're burned out or just out of inspiration, but my hype for this game is done and so is my funding sadly. I think things might rebound in a couple of months but I'm not willing to bet on that. The development time is too large and even if I accepted that the quantity will be small (comparing to the amount of content other devs produce in 1 year's worth of time), I expected quality, passion and soul. For the last year, I found none.


TL;DR: this demo doesn't justify 6 months of wait and feels like a rushed empty shell just to put out anything, literally in the month of the release date.
 

Zion of Olympus

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Apr 23, 2019
1,838
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I'm writing this as a former 16 month 20$ backer who had high hopes for this game, but with like all the things released in 2020, it came crumbling down.

We were promised 6 months ago that chapter 3 will come out in December. Along the way, we got monthly updates with silhouettes of succubus and various promises that this chapter will have multiple branching and more succubi than ever.

Then the news for the Kain injury came. These things happen and can impact development of a product, especially when it's the only artist currently working on things. So when the "demo C3" announcement came out I figured "it's ok, at least we'll see the majority of the chapter since the release date was set for December so most of the work is already done, the most important thing will be the artist to recover". Boy I was wrong.

When I started the chapter and saw the initial cutscenes, I thought it started things well, picking up where it left off, but then, I got stuck in a bland labyrinth, with nothing to do than roam around and find the actual succubi. No interactions, one piece of lore, no enemies, nothing. Then I got to all the 5 promised enemies. I've got to say, Kain is improving in his art. I digged the design and the various angles of the girls. Still, some scenes were some of the best written until now, but there were two which were 90% copy pasted from last two chapters. After defeating three of them we got one cutscene for each, after which we were allowed to cross a certain river. I knew there were no more enemies but I expected at least a scene with the Queen, a cutscene or at least a text to say "This was all, DUMBFUCK". I guess the content was so rushed that Zion forgot to implement something at the end of the demo.

So finally to the verdict: I feel like this latest update doesn't justify 6 months of work. I understand that the whole "this is a demo" excuse stands up, but this doesn't even feel like a demo, it's more like a shell, an empty one. It's not about the quantity, it's about the quality. Even if this was halfway through, it would still be disappointing. For a game which promised a rich universe and diversity, the world feels empty. Even the fights were the same, the same 2 attacks and 1 succubus temptation pattern. At least in the previous chapters the enemies had a different pattern or move orders. I get that there's gonna be a combat overhaul but I'm just trying to find out where the development time has gone. Sadly, I couldn't.


In conclusion, even if the main artist got injured and development couldn't progress because of it, I still expected for this demo to at least have some interesting content like some interactable NPCs, side cutscenes, literally anything. I got into this game when seeing the developer's ambition and passion for this game, but there's 0 passion here. This demo is two weeks development worth of content at most and a passionate dev would have dedicated his time to implementing various other things (just like you did in the prologue, with a touch to detail, funny interactions and character development).

I don't know if you're burned out or just out of inspiration, but my hype for this game is done and so is my funding sadly. I think things might rebound in a couple of months but I'm not willing to bet on that. The development time is too large and even if I accepted that the quantity will be small (comparing to the amount of content other devs produce in 1 year's worth of time), I expected quality, passion and soul. For the last year, I found none.


TL;DR: this demo doesn't justify 6 months of wait and feels like a rushed empty shell just to put out anything, literally in the month of the release date.
And hopefully 2021 will be the year that we gain your trust back.
Even if you don't support us directly, keep tuned on us.
There will be a big announcement in a few weeks, and once Kain returns we are going to intensify our work on the main series.

6 months for a chapter is something that it will not happen again. It must not.
I'll announce once Kain returns, and I ask for you to judge us based on this year.

Thank you for the support you gave us. And I'm sorry we failed you last year.
 

darkwhite1602

Newbie
Mar 1, 2019
34
65
Imagine if you dropped the super long overarching storylines involving the human side characters, how much time would you save?

People are here for the hentai. My CTRL key is all used up for holding it so long.

I hope you keep writing for your game while your artist is gone or else development is going to take even longer.
 

kotlsupp2000

Member
Mar 23, 2020
289
1,260
I agreed with Dregatar, This demo doesn't justify 6 months of wait, the new map feels like a scene room no minions to fight with only the succubus to interact with doing the same fight for each one and then see the scenes and some scenes of the other characters history this seems like a work of 2 or 3 months, for me this update is a 4/10 stars, hopefully the full chapter 3 release would be better i hope so. :confused:
 
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Lucress

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Dec 10, 2019
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Hello. ^^ Sorry to bother with two questions which may already have been answered but, here they are :
- Everyone is speaking about a chapter 3 "demo". Does it mean that the new update isn't complete ?
- Also, I understand it's now available on patreon. Does it mean it's only available to patrons, and that non-patrons have to wait a little longer to get the update here ? (not complaining, just wanna make sure I understand ^^)
Thanks for reading me. :)
 

Oathakafaze

Member
Mar 14, 2019
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Hello. ^^ Sorry to bother with two questions which may already have been answered but, here they are :
- Everyone is speaking about a chapter 3 "demo". Does it mean that the new update isn't complete ?
- Also, I understand it's now available on patreon. Does it mean it's only available to patrons, and that non-patrons have to wait a little longer to get the update here ? (not complaining, just wanna make sure I understand ^^)
Thanks for reading me. :)
Non patrons aren't supposed to even get the demo at all but with everything it gets posted here. Literally read back pages ffs.
 
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NeroZee

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Jun 24, 2018
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Hello. ^^ Sorry to bother with two questions which may already have been answered but, here they are :
- Everyone is speaking about a chapter 3 "demo". Does it mean that the new update isn't complete ?
- Also, I understand it's now available on patreon. Does it mean it's only available to patrons, and that non-patrons have to wait a little longer to get the update here ? (not complaining, just wanna make sure I understand ^^)
Thanks for reading me. :)
The new chapter has been split in half because the artist injured his hand and is currently recovering the whole thing has taken longer than before, luckily he should start his work soon and more importantly he will focus more on the game than any other stuff he does so he should work faster than before.

Every update is only available to patreons, this is a pirate site if one of the patrons leaks it here then that's when people on this site get to play it, Zion himself does not and can not leak the game on this site himself. And yea half the update is already posted here, if you go a few pages back you will find one person posting the MEGA link for it.
 

Lumikki

Newbie
Mar 5, 2019
27
24
Had a lot of fun with this demo so far, the world building has been great, you can tell a lot of time and effort has gone into the lore pieces and the side character's stories are okay, but they do sometimes feel like they're dragging out, especially when you have a cutscene every 1-2 area transitions. Definitely keeping an eye on this extremely promising project.
Hoping to see some potential genderbend and corruption in the future though, something more than vanilla-ish CGs (Though they are brilliantly designed, so props to the artist) that have been slightly changed for different body types.
 
3.50 star(s) 104 Votes