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Porn_Jesus

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Seeing that Asariel is Kain's waifu, is there any chance for protagonist to get an angel love interest?
Not for this era. The four love interests are already revealed so we have to wait for the next era (no guarantee it will happen then, I doubt it) but we can hope for some smexy times with an angel if we follow orders and do what the angels want. :D
 

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Not for this era. The four love interests are already revealed so we have to wait for the next era (no guarantee it will happen then, I doubt it) but we can hope for some smexy times with an angel if we follow orders and do what the angels want. :D
Four!? There's Iole, Atessatia, Medea, who's the fourth?
 

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the witch was feeding the elemental clan info.
Oh, and here I was thinking that there was some real grey morals area. But no, bitch is just yet another succubi pawn. I don't even consider stat boosts from her as worthy trade off anymore. Choice is clear - burn the witch!
 

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I get what you are saying, and I'm glad you enjoyed the game. Here are some of my points:

-What triggered me to answer your comment was the word "lame". It made zero sense for a hentai scene with Atessatia at that moment. She's not convinced yet that you are strong enough to be "the one" for her, if you followed her story. She's very demanding with men. It's part of her appeal and personality.

-I saw you say "but it's a porn game". I consider SC an adult game, not a porn game. What the difference, you might ask: Not everything is about sex.
That's why, besides succubi who actually act like succubi, demons are demons and not hot girls. You have demon plants, demon spider, etc. None of them sexy.
That's why I take my time writing lore and characters motivations.
The moment I start to consider SC a just a "porn game" will be the moment you see me dropping it to work on something else. I have no motivation to work on a "porn game" with dick jokes and all that.
My motivation with SC is to create a world like diablo, but where succubi act like lust demons tempting men.
You however, are free to consider SC whatever you wish to be so.

-You said that adalon hunters like to fuck girls and have no problem. Yes, they do fuck them, no problem at all in that. Once they finish a job is only fair they go to a whore house. Love Interests however, are not whores. Sex will happen when it makes sense, Once you explore them and deepen your bond with them.

-I like to follow the story, what makes sense for each character. They will all have quests that will result in ecchi scenes. Later, once you deepen your bonds with them, these quest will result in sex scenes that will make sense for the story and their personality. The only enemies that use sex openly are succubi, because it's part of their being. They use sex as a weapon against men.
Adult game? Porn with Plot? It doesn't matter what label you put on SC because it's a fantastic game and I wouldn't be hooked on it if not for both the Sexy Succubi and the time and effort you've put into building your setting.
 

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Dahlia fight is such bullshit. Her ring has half as much hp as she has and has what feels like 100% dodge. I tried 3 times to brake the ring before fighting her and failed every time, but the first time I tried to just bash her ignoring the ring I won easily. Bitch needs complete rework. :confused:
 

Zion of Olympus

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Dahlia fight is such bullshit. Her ring has half as much hp as she has and has what feels like 100% dodge. I tried 3 times to brake the ring before fighting her and failed every time, but the first time I tried to just bash her ignoring the ring I won easily. Bitch needs complete rework. :confused:
Please, read the description of every skill. There is one called Pommel Strike, that never misses but it's rather weak.
2 or 3 pommel strikes are enough to bring her ring down.
 

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Please, read the description of every skill. There is one called Pommel Strike, that never misses but it's rather weak.
2 or 3 pommel strikes are enough to bring her ring down.
The matter of fact, her fight is the only occasion in which I used that skill so far, and it's useless, it's much easier to just bash her and ignore the ring.
 

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The matter of fact, her fight is the only occasion in which I used that skill so far, and it's useless, it's much easier to just bash her and ignore the ring.
You can destroy her ring preventing her to use deadly leaves, but it is possible to defeat her without it. And you will need to use that again against the third general and her relic as well.
I fail to see the problem, considering that up until now no one complained about her fight.
 

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You can destroy her ring preventing her to use deadly leaves, but it is possible to defeat her without it. And you will need to use that again against the third general and her relic as well.
I fail to see the problem, considering that up until now no one complained about her fight.
Took me some time to figture it out as well. but I didn't bitch about it. Gotta say, the gameplay is strict and preparation is key to winning and its so satisfying once you figure out how to deal with X foe.
 
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You can destroy her ring preventing her to use deadly leaves, but it is possible to defeat her without it. And you will need to use that again against the third general and her relic as well.
I fail to see the problem, considering that up until now no one complained about her fight.
What I'm trying to say - if player ignores the ring it makes the fight absurdly easy. I only had challenge with her when I tried to fight her as intended i.e. braking the ring. And she's supposed to be the chapter's final boss.
 

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What I'm trying to say - if player ignores the ring it makes the fight absurdly easy. I only had challenge with her when I tried to fight her as intended i.e. braking the ring. And she's supposed to be the chapter's final boss.
The final boss of the first chapter. It's supposed to be somewhat easy. We are at the very beginning of the whole era. Why is it a problem? You can defeat the boss in two ways. With ring or without ring. Mighty fine in my books.
 
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The final boss of the first chapter. It's supposed to be somewhat easy. We are at the very beginning of the whole era. Why is it a problem? You can defeat the boss in two ways. With ring or without ring. Mighty fine in my books.
Game taught us with ogre from prologue that: if there's some object present in battle you better brake it.
But in her case following that lesson only makes it much harder because ring has half as much hp as Dahlia but requiers constant use of a certain skill to even hit it, while Dahlia in itself is a pathetic weakling that can be killed in four or five turns of mindless spamm of blue flame.
It felt like a backstab. Why even try using tactics or paying attention anymore if everything can be solved by mindlessly spamming blue flame?
 

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Game taught us with ogre from prologue that: if there's some object present in battle you better brake it.
But in her case following that lesson only makes it much harder because ring has half as much hp as Dahlia but requiers constant use of a certain skill to even hit it, while Dahlia in itself is a pathetic weakling that can be killed in four or five turns of mindless spamm of blue flame.
It felt like a backstab. Why even try using tactics or paying attention anymore if everything can be solved by mindlessly spamming blue flame?
Are you using an old save? You can only use blue flame 2 times before needing to recover mana.
By then she'll use deadly leaves that will drastically reduce your hp
 

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Are you using an old save? You can only use blue flame 2 times before needing to recover mana.
By then she'll use deadly leaves that will drastically reduce your hp
No, I ate all the fish and have 113 mana and always have a couple of mana potions or mana herbs on me.
And her "deadly" leaves aren't that deadly, 80-90 hp isn't that much, coupled with that she uses it once in a 3 or 4 turns - it's not dangerous if you didn't start her fight with low hp.
 

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No, I ate all the fish and have 113 mana and always have a couple of mana potions or mana herbs on me.
And her "deadly" leaves aren't that deadly, 80-90 hp isn't that much, coupled with that she uses it once in a 3 or 4 turns - it's not dangerous if you didn't start her fight with low hp.
The battles should be easier if you did side stuff. That explains it. I balance the game with only the runes you can find.
Side stuff makes you kind of overpowered.
If you think it's better to defeat her without destroying the ring, ok, then.
80-90 hp is more than half of your full HP and the ring attacks independently, so she will attack soon after.

But like I said, doing side stuff makes you powerful beyond what the game is initially design. I prefer this way.
 

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Game taught us with ogre from prologue that: if there's some object present in battle you better brake it.
But in her case following that lesson only makes it much harder because ring has half as much hp as Dahlia but requiers constant use of a certain skill to even hit it, while Dahlia in itself is a pathetic weakling that can be killed in four or five turns of mindless spamm of blue flame.
It felt like a backstab. Why even try using tactics or paying attention anymore if everything can be solved by mindlessly spamming blue flame?
Umm, if Zion turns every single fight into a pro gamer chessboard many people will stop playing because they aren't used to planning ahead that much. A okish difficulty for most enemies and some brain work for optional enemies and maybe the generals is fine though.

It won't help if a tiny part of players, who want it difficult, get what they want while the majority of players won't have that. Cash is needed to keep the project running and a hand full people can't compensate many people unless they have enough cash to buy a new car every month. :D
 
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