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They do. They have countless worlds under their command that serves as "human farms". Called Towers.
But individually it's over for the man they pick.
But individually it's over for the man they pick.
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What even the high quality ones? I mean c'mon the girls gotta have tastes. After what happened with the cow girl (Which was suuuuuper dumb btw .. I don't realise I'm killing people! .. puuurleaaase.) If she's really that dumb then the protag is guilty of taking advantage of a disabled person. Honestly I'd avoid stuff like that in future. Succubi make no sense as they are potrayed classically as killers. Parasites don't kill their hosts quickly. Some depictions potray the man dying slowly as repeated drainings erode their health .. that could make sense. But instant death? Only if she doesn't like you .. I appreciate this is a femdom fantasy portrayal. But then adding something like that cowgirl kinda sabotages it especially when you force them to be killers in a way that is super contrived and unbelievable so that they fit with your games narrative. Don't get me wrong I really liked her scene. But if you're going to throw in a "nice" succubus once in a blue moon don't make them killers for some dumb reason like that.
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-I need to vary the scenes. Although the cow is also not my thing, a change here and there is needed to avoid stagnation in the scenes. Many people loved her. If it was just up to me, it would be evil milfs riding you to death with their pussy all the way. But we have different tastes here.
-depends on the parasite. Succubi are the ultimate parasite, demanding litters of semen to power themselves and keep their mana pool high. That's why they are constantly invading worlds, or closing deals with powerful organizations. A human isn't enough. Not to mention their addiction. They can't control themselves anyway once they unleash energy drain.
This is exactly why when it comes to the canon decisions, I just cant see the Mc sparing any of the succubi. Even the less evil ones. Because as you said, they are the ultimate parasite. It would be like an exterminator leaving a job half finished. I also don't see the Mc siding with the witch over the witch hunters. But it will be interesting to see how you think the Mc would've handled that situation.
Hey I just wanted to say that I loved your game, it reminded me of SEQUEL games. I saw your decision about the animation and 100% respect that. I just wanted to say that there are people who specialize in making animations from a picture. Like this:
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I just thought this way it wouldn't put any additional work on Kain if that was the main issue. Also I think that you might be planning a bit too much into the future. It's good to be ambitious but you shouldn't make a game that relies on a sequel to continue the story. They should be connected and build off of each other but at it's core every game should be for itself with its own satisfying ending like SEQUEL again or even dark souls. If this was what you had in your mind to begin with please ignore what I said.
I wish you all the best and good luck with your work.
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They don't work for free though. It would be super stupid to hire someone now and bring animations back. I would have to ask if Zion still knows what he wants.^^
I agree it would be difficult to bring back animations now and it does cost, that's why I said I respect your decision.
I just wanted to share those animators in case you didn't know such people existed.
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Hey, brother! I really appreciated your comment!
About animations, you either find someone that can animate inside rpg maker, which was the case with IND3X (he animated by script) or you animate in a video format and develop the scene with it.
This means that I'd basically have to redo the entire game, removing images and adding videos instead.
So I decided to stick with great characters and story and excellent art to speed things up. I want a release of 3 to 4 months between chapters.
It would be great to have the entire game animated, but you are right, it would take too much time and money, tbh the only scenes that would be great to be animated are love interest's scenes, the royal succubi and maybe the scenes with an angel (if there are going to be some, I hope so).
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That's a thing in Succubus Covenant: Warlock Saga.
I know, would be great if it happens in SC too, it's the same universe after all.
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M404T1N I saw your review. Here are some points:
-In the far future we are not talking about simple succubi. You took that conclusion by yourself. We are talking about a legion of the seven deadly sins that can envelop an entire world under their draining ability, leaving nothing but a wasteland. Therefore, the desperation of humanity to keep them out of the world.
-Succubi also evolved with time. They developed new magic, new golems, new relics, etc. You are presupposing that they were the same as in the bronze age. They are not. Force fields, for example. While humanity have powerful armor, they have developed force fields by that point, where some times, physical attacks are necessary.
-Who said that the DNA recognition was created by humans? You are presupposing again without even playing the game. It's like me going to mass effect and writing a lot of things why the reapers don't make any sense with only playing the first game. Not only is ignorant, but also unfair.
-Who said that by the future you won't have a way of killing the succubi? Is that way common knowledge? And if not, wouldn't be a nice adventure to get that information for humanity?
-You can't keep succubi in prison. Again showing your ignorance about the lore. Once they "die" from hunger, they dematerialize and go back to hell.
-Yes, curses exist. But magic in SC is extremely expensive. You must have a powerful relic that will demand a LOT of mana to curse a single being. They can't be mass used. And that's not the path humanity will take. Their path is toward technology.
TL;DR: Your "review" is nothing more then speculation and ignorance. You don't know the basics of the lore and presupposes everything like you did know.
-In the far future we are not talking about simple succubi. You took that conclusion by yourself. We are talking about a legion of the seven deadly sins that can envelop an entire world under their draining ability, leaving nothing but a wasteland. Therefore, the desperation of humanity to keep them out of the world.
-Succubi also evolved with time. They developed new magic, new golems, new relics, etc. You are presupposing that they were the same as in the bronze age. They are not. Force fields, for example. While humanity have powerful armor, they have developed force fields by that point, where some times, physical attacks are necessary.
-Who said that the DNA recognition was created by humans? You are presupposing again without even playing the game. It's like me going to mass effect and writing a lot of things why the reapers don't make any sense with only playing the first game. Not only is ignorant, but also unfair.
-Who said that by the future you won't have a way of killing the succubi? Is that way common knowledge? And if not, wouldn't be a nice adventure to get that information for humanity?
-You can't keep succubi in prison. Again showing your ignorance about the lore. Once they "die" from hunger, they dematerialize and go back to hell.
-Yes, curses exist. But magic in SC is extremely expensive. You must have a powerful relic that will demand a LOT of mana to curse a single being. They can't be mass used. And that's not the path humanity will take. Their path is toward technology.
TL;DR: Your "review" is nothing more then speculation and ignorance. You don't know the basics of the lore and presupposes everything like you did know.
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Inb4 the counter argument "I read it in a book, you are the one who doesn't know anything" drops.^^'
Why not just keep them from dying then? Like I originally said, feed them barely enough to survive.. Even if they refuse to eat you can forcefully feed them. Also, isn't a whole characterization of the succubi in the game that succubi are addicted to the pleasure they get from absorbing energy? This could very well be a double edged sword that you can use against them. Even if it's impossible to force them to eat, you could at least keep them prisoner until they starve to death, delaying their recovery for a while longer.
This is self contradictory, the whole origin of the game is that succubi and angels were fighting for an extremely long time way before humans even came into existence. If succubi were going to develop technologically, they would have done that development before humans even came along.. The time scale after humans appear is much smaller compared to the time that succubi have been around. One can possibly make the argument that succubi aren't capable of inspiration themselves, but in that case there were the dwarves and the elves before the humans who clearly had their own amazing discoveries, in which case why did the succubi not develop technologically drawing inspiration from them? Either way, if the succubi were capable of developing technologically in such a way, the succubi should have already done so by the beginning of the story in the bronze age.
Whether or not it was developed by humans is irrelevant, what matters is that it was allowed to exist despite being a threat to succubi, my point being that if it were the case that succubi were suppressing humans technologically they would have prevented them from having access to this technology.
This is somewhat of a valid point, though it also contradicts itself. If they are that powerful why have they not conquered everything already? If humans are incapable of affecting them at all then why would human efforts be relevant to the story in the game at all, why not just have the story be centered on whatever force it is that can actually fight them or restrain them?
I will concede this point, at least in the context of the bronze age plotline. However, the concept still works with advanced enough technology. You could very well use a bomb to achieve the same goal, with the manufacturing cost decreased over time. The whole point of it is preventing normal succubi from healing or gaining power, or even further being able to help sustain their energy requirements, from human soldiers they manage to restrain or capture. It's basically the "scorched earth" strategy.
My point was, why hasn't such a method already been developed or somewhat understood by the angels at the beginning of the story in the bronze age? As I said earlier they have according to your game's introduction been fighting the demons for an extremely long time. The angels are also all unaging. Do Angels have long term memory loss? Even if they do, you would think they would record something that important.
The only reason I could come up with would be that they actually do have a method of killing succubi, but they won't tell it to humans because the method would also work against the Angels. But then in that case there is still a plot hole which remains, you have an angel in the story who fell in love with a human, and has shown that she is willing to directly disobey the orders of her superiors and will do anything to keep him alive, so why hasn't she mentioned this method to him, a man who regularly goes and risks his life against Succubi?
I didn't presuppose anything, all I did was examine the things which you included into the game yourself, and I saw the contradictions therein. I have no idea what the lore you have planned in your own head is. It's your game in the end, you can do what you want. I reviewed the game according to what I experienced and saw, and how I understood it.
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-I don't see any logic in your argument from "keep them from dying". A single succubus demands litters of sperm to survive. Not to mention that the facilities where they are held will demand an insane amount of resources to keep them running. Considering that there are billions of them, and probably trillions by the time the future Era starts, imagine the resources that they will need to keep just a few locked away. It won't make any difference if humanity keep a few millions with them.
-It's you who are self contradicting. Take humans for example. We are here for millions of years. Our homo sapiens ancestors are here for 200.000 years. And only in a very short spam of time we achieved so much. In only 2000 to 500 years, humanity has evolved beyond all of human history thought possible. This alone makes your argument invalid. However I must add that a lot of research was lost, similar on how the great library of Alexandria was lost. Much knowledge was lost during the conflict between demons and angels. Plus, there is a reason why things will advance faster, and it's already going to be hinted at at the end of the first game.
-Succubi are rare from the second Age forward, so much so they became myth. You took a conclusion based on your own judgement that they will be abundant in the modern Eras, which they will not be. Who said the person manipulating things for the shadows and keeping humanity from finding the truth about them is also not the same developing the tech to kill them? Or that this tech was given by another race once humanity started to explore the galaxy?
-They didn't conquer everything because humanity is also a force to be reckoned with. But even so, they can only slow the advance of the Void Clan without the proper means to fight them. Which is why the story IS focused on finding a way to properly destroy them. That's why they need the memories of your ancestors, to know, since they fought against the forces of hell multiple times and won, if there is a way to actually kill them and if this knowledge does exist, to know where it is and how to get it.
-If you bomb a succubus, they will go back to hell and take form again. That's why the memories of your ancestors are so important. They need to find a way to, if not kill them, to drastically slow their rebirth in the scorching hell. The relics of Adalon do a great job. "Killing" a succubus with anything other than a powerful relic will greatly speed their rebirth. And as I explained, capture them is a big waste of time. You need a way to destroy them. That's why the memories of your ancestors are so important. That might be something there.
-There are many paths to evolution in SC. Magic for example, which both angels and demons prefer, or technology. Perhps the answer to destroying the succubi are in technology, not magic. Perhaps by choosing magic, this path of actually killing an immortal was closed to them. You have to wait and see in the story itself.
-You were presuming. You said that there are plot holes in the story that has only 3 chapters done. Things that will be explained in the future are not plot holes, and much of your arguments is just you taking conclusions by yourself. You demonstrated lack of knowledge multiple times. And even have ideas that disregard the basic knowledge of resources necessary to keep a facility running.
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This is clearly just a hand waving. If they really need that much just to survive, there is no way they would be able to survive in the numbers they have in the game. They would almost immediately starve if that were the case. No really this entire thing makes no sense. Wouldn't they end up in an endless loop of constantly starving and dying in hell because they starve so quickly?
You are comparing evolution from slugs to a race that has been sentient essentially from its inception. Also discounting the presence of magic in the game completely. Why do you think that humanity has developed so quickly in the last 200 years compared to the rest of history? Because of the power of harnessing energy sources for industry. Succubi are born with the capability of harnessing such an energy source ready made, and they have been that way for an extremely long time.
Losing technology in the war would be a valid point, if succubi weren't IMMORTAL, RETAINING ALL OF THEIR MEMORIES WHEN THEY DIE. How are the succubi "losing" their knowledge? Losing history and knowledge is something which happens to humans, because the people who knew that knowledge die, and their records get lost. It makes no sense in the context of succubi who are unaging and can't die.
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Zion of Olympus Short question from me. The void clan is said to be so powerful that angels and demons had to unite to stop them. Is the Void clan working with the other succubus clans or is it a unique powerful party that tries to conquer everything it encounters?
That would also explain how the humans can survive for so long. While they are capable fighters if properly trained and armed with angelic relics it would make sense that they could withstand for so lang if the succubus clans have an even tougher time if they have to battle two parties at the same time.
That and the infights, they share the same hunger for power and domination as humans do.^^
That would also explain how the humans can survive for so long. While they are capable fighters if properly trained and armed with angelic relics it would make sense that they could withstand for so lang if the succubus clans have an even tougher time if they have to battle two parties at the same time.
That and the infights, they share the same hunger for power and domination as humans do.^^