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Ir0n Ma1den

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The Japanease voice actinh is good, and I guess English VA will take more.

Besides the Japanease VA, gives the game a feel thats its authentic hentai.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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Cant ı dont like or like the changes you little doink ? Do we have to like evrything that has to come ? Sounds like being a bitch is other way around.
Cant ı simply look at the pics and say "Ohh.... This is not look good" ?
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Atesceken70

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There was once a supreme tactic in this world so powerful and feared it suddenly vanished. The ancients called it "ignoring other peoples bla bla".

Legends say it might be found once again when humanity is ready to stop the internet drama for good.

Now for the weather. A mild shitstorm can be expected from all directions. Having a umbrella with you is advised. This was radio "shit, here we go again", have a pleasant night.
Oh my... Pointing your opinion is now days call "shitstorm" And "bla bla" I Dont know you are sarcastic about me or them neither way its not funny ı guess. I Just dont like the new artis. Why do pepole get this so serious ? Cant we just say our opinions about the game or ıdk... About anything. Ofc without disrispect or so.
 

Porn_Jesus

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Oh my... Pointing your opinion is now days call "shitstorm" And "bla bla" I Dont know you are sarcastic about me or them neither way its not funny ı guess. I Just dont like the new artis. Why do pepole get this so serious ? Cant we just say our opinions about the game or ıdk... About anything. Ofc without disrispect or so.
Actually I tried to help you by hinting that you shouldn't react to some stuff. Your opinion is yours and some people share it.

I was expecting that quite a few people would be worried or against the new artist. Surely the dev expected that too but it had to be done because no artist means text only and that would have been the end for this project.

I'm not that happy with it either but would find it unfair to say the next chapter will be a fail before I have played it. Some people have that opinion. Quite amusing imo, they probably work as fortune tellers but we will see.

Ofc this was a mix of sarcasm and a little advice. Take it or leave it but don't expect you will find people who agree or feel comfy around you if that's how you react all the time.^^'
 

Atesceken70

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Actually I tried to help you by hinting that you shouldn't react to some stuff. Your opinion is yours and some people share it.

I was expecting that quite a few people would be worried or against the new artist. Surely the dev expected that too but it had to be done because no artist means text only and that would have been the end for this project.

I'm not that happy with it either but would find it unfair to say the next chapter will be a fail before I have played it. Some people have that opinion. Quite amusing imo, they probably work as fortune tellers but we will see.

Ofc this was a mix of sarcasm and a little advice. Take it or leave it but don't expect you will find people who agree or feel comfy around you if that's how you react all the time.^^'
Okey ı undestand but ı wouldn't react like this if the pepole not treat my opinion so harshly. I Agree that it will be unfair to say this chapter will be a fail before play. By the look of the pics ı dont like the new artis. But I Hope ı will like it. All aside ı am saying this things bec this game is my few favorite games on net.
 
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RavioMakin

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Okey ı undestand but ı wouldn't react like this if the pepole not treat my opinion so harshly. I Agree that it will be unfair to say this chapter will be a fail before play. By the look of the pics ı dont like the new artis. But I Hope ı will like it. All aside ı am saying this things bec this game is my few favorite games on net.
I think kainkout was wayyyyyy ahead of this new guy but let's see, when the new chapter comes out i'm gonna say if my opinion changed...
 
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Zion of Olympus

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LOL

I read some of the new comments and I find it funny because Devil-V was always my favorite artist, so my brain can't process many of the comments.
Imo, no one does evil milfs, which is the base of SC, like him. Evil smile, evil expressions, etc. The man shines with evil girls.

And yes, I was prepared for a bit of negative feedback, no matter who the new artist would be. Any change will bring a bit of "chaos" to the series.
People got used to Kain's art, which is fantastic, although his specialty was cute/innocent looking girls, which was never my thing, personally speaking. By changing that, people are afraid that it might not "live up" to the same feeling.

As a developer, I'm loving working with V. He's absolute insane with his designs, putting a lot of detail on each girl, like clothing, jewelry, etc. I can say he's a blessing to SC, considering that the backbone of the game are evil milfs, and he shines with them.

Hopefully you guys will get used to the change and who knows, might even have him as a favorite artist like me.
 

Mr.Gamer

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He's absolute insane with his designs, putting a lot of detail on each girl, like clothing, jewelry, etc.
Well, that sounds like a step up than just wearing pasties or a corset. Hopefully, the succubi can keep up with the changing fashion trends, like wearing a risque version of Victorian era clothing or a business suit in modern times. Sure, being nearly naked is attractive; but it would be interesting to see some of them make an attempt to blend in with society in terms of clothing. I was kind of half-expecting one of them to be wearing a mage's cloak that's halfway undone or a skinsuit with holes in the "right places."
 

Syha

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You can't blame some of us for being worried about the new artist, Hahaha! I mean, Kain was on something with his "evil" lady style, and it would be a shame if he never does that again in the future! Having that said, I will judge with the next chapter with an open mind and not before! When we care about something, we worry about "change"! It's human!
 
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wann_ist_mikkel

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To start with I have been playing and mostly following topics on SC since the beginning of the project. I kept watching from the shadows and I stood silent. I played lots, probably in the hundreds, of Succubus related games, because I have a very niche amount of tags I choose from I very rarely find something to fit them all. To give you some: succubus, expansion, age progression, femdom.

When I found about this game I was so excited to have found a hidden gem amoung coals. The art was astonishing, one of the best I found. Kainkout was rising up through the ranks amoung individuals like:
  • Shiki (Psychedelic G2)
  • Doskoinpo
  • c.rs nest
This game filled and put together missing pieces that other games had along with a story worthy of being read and immersed in. The gameplay is fun, it hooks you in, making you struggle at times if you did not collect everything "shiny" you saw on the map and hadn't planned strategically how to beat an individual. So, across various iterations I was always pleasantly surprised by the level of polish and new features and improved systems. The game is passionately developed and I just have to point that out because it deserve its praise ;).

However, due to the injury of Kainkout and its stressful schedule I understand that a change was indeed required between partners. I am glad that they are still with us on a smaller project as you have mentioned. So I hope that, in the future, you might take in consideration having Kainkout lead the series. Now, as things are placed on the table, with the new leading artist of SC being Devil-V, seeing the art they produced saddened me, because the game is one of the few, if not the only which satisfies my niche genre. So much that it made me come out and write my first forum post.

In order to start criticizing I have to give you a bit of background to better understand my standpoint. I am a programmer by profession and I am still studying in this area. I am not an artist, however due to pandemic circumstances I bought several devices which might enable me to take a step in that area if the time shall allow it. At the moment, I only understand that it is a tough path, requiring you to put thousands of hours in practice in order to get at least to a novice level unless you have talent, which might give you a small shortcut, but effort is still required. Considering this, my opinion comes from an unexperienced/non-artist and is based mostly on content that I have consumed up to this point.

The following opinion is highly subjective and I am going to express differences as I see them between Kainkout and Devil-V.
My first point is about the art styles of both artists, which is quite unique, and because of that they differ quite much.

Kainkout has a more "manga" / "anime" style.​
  1. The lines used in their drawings are thinner.
  2. The detail / emphasis placed on the hair is richer than Devil-V.
  3. While the face expressions are, as you say Zion, more evil compared to Kainkout's innocent ones, the faces drawn by Kainkout are much better detailed.
    1. Softer eyebrows
    2. Eye Shadow
    3. Better Blush (drawn subtle yet still being quite noticed). This really plants a "seed" in the consumer, to make them hunger for a scene.
    4. Even though the faces they might be more "evil" in your eyes Zion, I would say that Kainkout's are a lot more enticing :love:.
  4. Overall shapes drawn by Kainkout are bigger, their scale is larger. For example, hands have much more visibility.
  5. On a more ecchi note. Curves drawn by Kainkout are bigger, presented a lot better to the consumer. To put more ephasis on this point, from Kainkout's art you can see the curves just by looking at them, meanwhile Devil-V draws explicit lines to point them out.
  6. Big breasts seem a lot more narutally drawn in Kainkout's art. Devil-V's just seem attached to the body, and highlighted using thick black lines.
  7. The clothing of the succubi has a much more visible effect caused by their curves. Especially the breasts.
Devil-V has a "cartoony" style.​
  1. Consider all the downsides mentioned above.
  2. There is a bit more detail on the clothing. The succubi have some accesories which have a kind of texture. Kainkout usually just left a plain color which was kind of bad. Take the queen for example, she has such big wings that should encompass the MC and intimidate him, however they just have a kind of gray color with a bit of shading no texture. I really hope Devil-V will improve of this. As I saw shininess, texture and details added to their tails.
  3. More aggressive faces, or combat like styled, at least from the two images on this thread. Considering other images on their deviant profile, there is a wider array of expression than Kainkout's. But as mentioned, the details on the faces or the way they are presented is unpleasant. The faces/heads are maybe smaller than expected.
  4. More proeminent lines on abs / armpits / necks. Give a better structure, but they are overused everywhere. Hands / Arms seem to be drawn with sharp lines while Kainkout has a softer way of doing it.
I put two images side by side to illustrate this and some arrows to point out differences.

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To conclude with my opinion, at least in my eyes I can predict the transition will be tough to accept by many consumers. It's almost a dealbreaker for me, except for the tags mentioned above which will keep me in the loop, but I won't be as excited sadly...

I understand that it's your favorite artist but they pale in comparison to Kainkout :eek:. While I didn't take StormFeder in discussion I think he might be a better alternative to Devil-V as the leading artist of the main series. I will miss Kainkout deeply from my heart on SC. Thank you for all the effort Zion, I am grateful to you for bringing us a piece of art. I will still follow SC as I am interested by it.
 

NeroZee

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I think Zion should stay away from f95 and stick to his Patreons like some other devs. Cause people are extemely unreasonable, annoying and demanding...

Just stop coming back here and giving these people previews for free you have more than enough patreons to give a shit. If they want a different artist since Kain is injured and its out of your hands, maybe they can negotiate someone else for you and pay for them themselves.

Freaking whining... Zion didnt fire Kain or something liie that, if you dont like the new artist unfortunately that is not something that will change so either give him a chance since he hasnt even released 1 chapter yet or just move on. I will remind people that the vampire succubi Kain did is a lot better than the first succubi he released in this game. Go compare her to Leafhair or someone like that. So lets see how well Devil V succubi compare after he has been doing them for a year as well. I will say that the ones he started alreasy look better than the ones Kain started with.
 

Ir0n Ma1den

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I don't get what the fuss is about, both artists are good. and don't judge before you see his art in action in the game itself. Zion already mentioned that the artist is trying his best to suit the style of the previous artist.

I too was a little bit dissappointed since the previous artist left, but I don't judge the new artist before I play the game.

I also looked at his portfolio and I think a lot of the critics here are going to bite their tounges when the new episode comes out.
 

animefan1111

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I don't get what the fuss is about, both artists are good. and don't judge before you see his art in action in the game itself.
Exactly.

From what I've seen the new artist's drawings look great. Lady Black Horn! As long as there are big tiddy succubi waiting to seduce us in chapter 4, I'll be happy. Hopefully, we'll see some more of Drita and Argeia. Both are super hot.
 
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