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At best they were able to do was to form the Lunar Clan. Basically monk succubi who try to refuse the politics of the Scorching Hell and try to feed less on life, following the teaching of the Seraphim known as Selene in Yrdarvyr.

No demon is allowed in the Soaring Heaven. While the succubi are much more chaotic, accepting any who would swear allegiance to them, the angels are very close minded when it comes to it.

Theoretically, the succubi could become less dependent of life. A "divine succubus". But no demon even entered the Soaring Heaven before. And no angel would risk being exiled by helping one "sneak in", or even suggest the very idea to the Exalted Seven.
I see, that means that the Angels are far more conservative and cautious compared to the Scorching Hells as they do not want to risk having a Demon in the Heavens in case they are a double agent.

Since you mentioned that a Divine Succubus would be less dependent on life to sustain themselves and Corrupted Angels have some of their old abilities to a lesser degree due to their nature, could there be something akin to an Angel/Succubi hybrid

If not, would a Divine Succubi be able to sustain themselves on other sources and/or mate with a human without killing them due to their reduced need to sustenance? And Speaking of Corrupted Angels, due they have a hunger for life as well as they now have soul drain in addition to their natural energy generation? Because it seems like either quasi-hybrids would some of the most dangerous being in the universe due to the combined traits of both but Corrupted Angels seem to be deadlier as they by default are stronger than Succubi.
 

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At best they were able to do was to form the Lunar Clan. Basically monk succubi who try to refuse the politics of the Scorching Hell and try to feed less on life, following the teaching of the Seraphim known as Selene in Yrdarvyr.

No demon is allowed in the Soaring Heaven. While the succubi are much more chaotic, accepting any who would swear allegiance to them, the angels are very close minded when it comes to it.

Theoretically, the succubi could become less dependent of life. A "divine succubus". But no demon even entered the Soaring Heaven before. And no angel would risk being exiled by helping one "sneak in", or even suggest the very idea to the Exalted Seven.


I feel you, man. Once I release Eden Crest, I'll focus solely on developing the world of SC. Even if I get tired of the main series and need some time off, that time will be used to create another game in the same universe, as I have so many ideas, like a game focused on Kain, during the Blood Wars against the Valerian Which Coven and Argos' Zemog, a sentient Ogre, commander of legions of Ogres.
This game would be focused more on investigation. You must discover the witches true identity, more similar to assassin's creed, where you hunt down templars and make connections on who is the next one.

1- Witches are way more common than Succubi in the life of an Adalon Hunter. One witch is enough to slowly draw more girls into a city/village/etc. Then, they start the rituals, the transformation of young girls to accept the pact with a succubus and so on. They will then form a coven, then spread their influence throughout the region.
In WS, there will be a quest to destroy a witch coven. Even the veil, who is "magic acceptant" don't tolerate witches, as for them, they are only puppets of the succubi.

2- Women are kept as slaves, for reproduction. The prettiest ones are put together with the most handsome men to create the best slaves for the succubi to feed upon.
Infertile women and basically all men are put to work in the mines/constructions/etc, under supervision of lesser demons, like ogres and orcs.
The Royal clan do keep a good number of healthy human slaves to feed. "pedigree" humans if you may.
The best of the best for the royal clan.

3-There are a few, like the Jiangshi, well preserved undead who can drain your chi/ki by contact. Like a kiss. They don't necessarily need anything sexual. Sexuality just helps to control the victim as they drink their energy. The first one was shown in the comic series.
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I see, that means that the Angels are far more conservative and cautious compared to the Scorching Hells as they do not want to risk having a Demon in the Heavens in case they are a double agent.

Since you mentioned that a Divine Succubus would be less dependent on life to sustain themselves and Corrupted Angels have some of their old abilities to a lesser degree due to their nature, could there be something akin to an Angel/Succubi hybrid

If not, would a Divine Succubi be able to sustain themselves on other sources and/or mate with a human without killing them due to their reduced need to sustenance? And Speaking of Corrupted Angels, due they have a hunger for life as well as they now have soul drain in addition to their natural energy generation? Because it seems like either quasi-hybrids would some of the most dangerous being in the universe due to the combined traits of both but Corrupted Angels seem to be deadlier as they by default are stronger than Succubi.
-This is as close to a hybrid as one can get. An angel corrupted by Hellish energy and an succubus touched by the divine.
Remember, neither divines nor demons breed. They can't get hybrids.

-A divine succubus never existed, so all their powers and what they need or don't are unknow. This is just theory, after all.

-No, they don't have hunger for life. Corrupted angels gain access to soul drain, so they can use that energy to power their most powerful spells, since they are cut from the Soaring Heaven source. But they don't need life force like the succubi. They still generate energy, but at a much slower pace then before.

-They are in fact weaker. It's true that they could have powers from both sides, but they would be master of none. They would no longer be able to use light or dark powers to the fullest. Just lesser/medium powers of both.
And yes, an corrupted angels would continue to be stronger than a divine succubus.
 

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-This is as close to a hybrid as one can get. An angel corrupted by Hellish energy and an succubus touched by the divine.
Remember, neither divines nor demons breed. They can't get hybrids.

-A divine succubus never existed, so all their powers and what they need or don't are unknow. This is just theory, after all.

-No, they don't have hunger for life. Corrupted angels gain access to soul drain, so they can use that energy to power their most powerful spells, since they are cut from the Soaring Heaven source. But they don't need life force like the succubi. They still generate energy, but at a much slower pace then before.

-They are in fact weaker. It's true that they could have powers from both sides, but they would be master of none. They would no longer be able to use light or dark powers to the fullest. Just lesser/medium powers of both.
And yes, an corrupted angels would continue to be stronger than a divine succubus.
Thanks for answering my questions Zion. This means that Corrupted Angels are far more likely to appear and are far stronger than a Divine Succubus, it's gonna be cool to see one in the future.
 

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Fallen Azurin (angels) exist in the SC universe, but there are many types of them. The determinant here is why they fell from grace.

Exiled: Exiled angels are just normal angels that were exiled due to crimes against the laws of the Soaring Heaven. They lose connection to the source of their power, and are greatly diminished by it.
Blood Angel: Vampire Angels that abandoned Heaven to become powerful blood mages that need blood from creatures to use their spells.
Corrupted angel: An angel that makes a pact with the succubus queen and is allowed to touch the center of hell, acquiring soul drain for themselves, while maintaining many of the angels native powers, using the souls of the dead to power spells.
Abyssal Angels: Those who make a pact with one of the Masters of Destruction (rulers of the abyss below hell). Each with their own unique mutation and powers.

Angels themselves however, are the complete opposite of the succubi. While succubi drain life to sustain themselves, angels generate energy all the time and might even heal people with it.
Huh, interesting.

Wait, Vampire Angels? Were they born vampiric, or they gained that later?
 

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-This is as close to a hybrid as one can get. An angel corrupted by Hellish energy and an succubus touched by the divine.
Remember, neither divines nor demons breed. They can't get hybrids.

-A divine succubus never existed, so all their powers and what they need or don't are unknow. This is just theory, after all.

-No, they don't have hunger for life. Corrupted angels gain access to soul drain, so they can use that energy to power their most powerful spells, since they are cut from the Soaring Heaven source. But they don't need life force like the succubi. They still generate energy, but at a much slower pace then before.

-They are in fact weaker. It's true that they could have powers from both sides, but they would be master of none. They would no longer be able to use light or dark powers to the fullest. Just lesser/medium powers of both.
And yes, an corrupted angels would continue to be stronger than a divine succubus.
Man, only a week away from this chat and I missed so much lore...
 

Zion of Olympus

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Huh, interesting.

Wait, Vampire Angels? Were they born vampiric, or they gained that later?
Acquired it after. Vampirism is one of the most powerful curses that can befall any being, being angelic, demonic or mortal.

It's ancient and some speculate that the "giver" of this curse predates Veridatha, which is basically the "god" of SC universe.
 

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Acquired it after. Vampirism is one of the most powerful curses that can befall any being, being angelic, demonic or mortal.

It's ancient and some speculate that the "giver" of this curse predates Veridatha, which is basically the "god" of SC universe.
It cant be that vamprism curse predates the god of sc universe,that would be weird to explain and put in the timeline,it would also omniously imply that all beings are by default infected with the curse,just it lays dormant.
 

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I feel you, man. Once I release Eden Crest, I'll focus solely on developing the world of SC. Even if I get tired of the main series and need some time off, that time will be used to create another game in the same universe, as I have so many ideas, like a game focused on Kain, during the Blood Wars against the Valerian Which Coven and Argos' Zemog, a sentient Ogre, commander of legions of Ogres.
This game would be focused more on investigation. You must discover the witches true identity, more similar to assassin's creed, where you hunt down templars and make connections on who is the next one.

1- Witches are way more common than Succubi in the life of an Adalon Hunter. One witch is enough to slowly draw more girls into a city/village/etc. Then, they start the rituals, the transformation of young girls to accept the pact with a succubus and so on. They will then form a coven, then spread their influence throughout the region.
In WS, there will be a quest to destroy a witch coven. Even the veil, who is "magic acceptant" don't tolerate witches, as for them, they are only puppets of the succubi.

2- Women are kept as slaves, for reproduction. The prettiest ones are put together with the most handsome men to create the best slaves for the succubi to feed upon.
Infertile women and basically all men are put to work in the mines/constructions/etc, under supervision of lesser demons, like ogres and orcs.
The Royal clan do keep a good number of healthy human slaves to feed. "pedigree" humans if you may.
The best of the best for the royal clan.

3-There are a few, like the Jiangshi, well preserved undead who can drain your chi/ki by contact. Like a kiss. They don't necessarily need anything sexual. Sexuality just helps to control the victim as they drink their energy. The first one was shown in the comic series.
Good to hear man,more lore is always welcome even more than the fantastic sex scenes (for most of them),puzzles and mystery is what is missing from this universe/game and i mean real ones like puzzles that aren't baby easy or skipable but are engaging,interactive and form part of the story.
Idk might be just me but i really liked the witch from chapter 3 i think? that is Kain's mother i believe,everything from dialogue to art to sex scene and story was really good and erotic,the only thing i disliked is the combat that is very generic plus no temptation ability. A normal or close to normal woman just dominating an profesional hunter who killed sucubuses is funny,ironic and somewhat sexy. Im the only one that finds witches and vampires (atleast in this setting) very sexy? like even better than succubuses most of the time.

A bit of a strech i know but i wish one day we would get to play in the sc universe in the shoes of a normal human (male or female),i like alot badasses that are so and strong despite being not special by birth or some prophesy BS but by their character and dedication to be skilled and do the right thing in their eyes,Naruto was such an example before the prophesy BS ruined it and prove Neji very right all along.

So women are kept as slaves,arent any who volunteer to help the succubuses or are forced to fight for them? I mean from what you said,you give the impression only women who signed a contract with a succubuses fight for them as witches but there must be warriors,archers or something else that fight for them right? Also can they force a woman to sign a contract with a succubus or it must be willing?

Is there something of a good equivalent of a witch? That signs a contract with a succubus but remains good? Like use evil to fight evil for the greater good or for her reasons.
Im also interested to know if angels sign contracts with humans too to help them fight evil (not just succubi but probably mainly them) to form something like an angelic/good version of a witch?
 

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Acquired it after. Vampirism is one of the most powerful curses that can befall any being, being angelic, demonic or mortal.

It's ancient and some speculate that the "giver" of this curse predates Veridatha, which is basically the "god" of SC universe.
Predating the universe? Like the Void Clan?
 

Zion of Olympus

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It cant be that vamprism curse predates the god of sc universe,that would be weird to explain and put in the timeline,it would also omniously imply that all beings are by default infected with the curse,just it lays dormant.
Who is god? Veridatha is what the Seven Heavenly Virtues remember first, the one who gave them life. But is he the first? He surely was the creator... right?

I treat the lore of SC like ES does. It's a bunch of information from biased parts of the conflict. The truth might never been known. You have only fragments of dubious information to put together in a puzzle that might not be completable from the very beginning.

Good to hear man,more lore is always welcome even more than the fantastic sex scenes (for most of them),puzzles and mystery is what is missing from this universe/game and i mean real ones like puzzles that aren't baby easy or skipable but are engaging,interactive and form part of the story.
Idk might be just me but i really liked the witch from chapter 3 i think? that is Kain's mother i believe,everything from dialogue to art to sex scene and story was really good and erotic,the only thing i disliked is the combat that is very generic plus no temptation ability. A normal or close to normal woman just dominating an profesional hunter who killed sucubuses is funny,ironic and somewhat sexy. Im the only one that finds witches and vampires (atleast in this setting) very sexy? like even better than succubuses most of the time.

A bit of a strech i know but i wish one day we would get to play in the sc universe in the shoes of a normal human (male or female),i like alot badasses that are so and strong despite being not special by birth or some prophesy BS but by their character and dedication to be skilled and do the right thing in their eyes,Naruto was such an example before the prophesy BS ruined it and prove Neji very right all along.

So women are kept as slaves,arent any who volunteer to help the succubuses or are forced to fight for them? I mean from what you said,you give the impression only women who signed a contract with a succubuses fight for them as witches but there must be warriors,archers or something else that fight for them right? Also can they force a woman to sign a contract with a succubus or it must be willing?

Is there something of a good equivalent of a witch? That signs a contract with a succubus but remains good? Like use evil to fight evil for the greater good or for her reasons.
Im also interested to know if angels sign contracts with humans too to help them fight evil (not just succubi but probably mainly them) to form something like an angelic/good version of a witch?
-I'll see what I can do about puzzles. Will try my best.

-The reason why the witch Damia didn't have any seduction during combat is because that is a power exclusive to the succubi, that no human could ever be able to match.
It's not just them being hot and saying sexy things, it's mental/mind magic that fucks up your brain into just giving up.
Only succubi, a parasite created to seduce can use that in combat, as part of her "combat skill set".

-I don't know what you mean here, because Aeolos is a normal human. I hate chosen ones too.
There is no prophecy guiding him and he isn't special in any way either. His parents were normal people too.
Aeolos just trained very hard to inherit the angelic weapons since Kain was getting old and so was the other hunters.
Like, there is absolutely nothing special about Aeolos. Anyone could have gone through what he did. His accomplishments are his own.

-You can't force a human to accept a pact. It must be willing. For whatever reason, but willing. Even if the human lie to herself saying that "it's necessary".
Witches can use a variety of weapons, but really, which powers can compare to Hellish Magic? A fireball can kill many humans, poison/acid can dissolve them, etc. Magic is simply so much more versatile. Why train with a sword and shield when you can literally fry your enemies with thunder.
I ask you to remember that I try to create SC lore the more "realistically or believable" as possible. If we had magic in the real world, would people use swords and arrows, when they could just electrocute and burn their enemies from afar?

-With a succubus? No. Singing a pact with a succubus require you to kill an innocent. Like a little kid or a baby, so the succubus will consume their souls. There is no "good" person who would do that. A good person would seek the angels instead. Which brings me to the next point.

-Yes, some humans would make pacts with angels. There are many factions of them, like the Swords of Heaven, who are basically mindless killing machines (doom guy killing demons style) that live only for 10 years after the pact, due to the stress of their bodies.
And you have the Nephilim, who offer their souls to an angel in exchange for power. After their death, they are allowed to join the Soaring Heaven, as his soul becomes bound to it.
 
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