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What would happen if a succubus (or possibly an angel) took a human soul and put it in their respective domains? (Heaven and hell)
Nothing. Too small to take form.

Plus, if a soul doesn't go to "the afterlife" soon after departing a body, it is so fragile that it will actually fade. Like a candle flame.

Only spirits can remain themselves without a host.
 
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I read what you posted and it seems to me that you are against him overcoming odds.

Take for example Guts, from berserk. His entire life was dedicated to overcoming odds that would kill any other man. Same as Aeolos did, recruited very young and trained by Kain and the other hunters for 10 years. Brutal training.
Does that make Guts special? Not for me. It makes him a survivalist that has been training more than others since birth and overcame every single challenge using all he could.

In fact, I could compare Aeolos fight against the Duchess with Guts vs Zodd for the first time. He couldn't win, he could just hold his ground until help arrived.
And Aeolos is forever scarred by that encounter with the Duchess if you choose the hunter's side. That scar and poison screwed his health, something that he'll probably have to carry out for the rest of his life.

Also, the real danger of the succubi are not their individual powers, but their numbers. Individually, you can imagine a succubus as a mage. The higher the rank, the more powerful the mage. But get past the magic and in close combat and they fall rather quickly.
It's the "Glass Canon" build. Extremely deadly, but easy to kill.
Aeolos does that exactly that with his relics.
When angels fight succubi they quickly dispatch them, and those who can't, are overwhelmed by numbers. Which, again, is the true strength of the the succubi. Like a zombie horde.
I never intended for succubi to be like indestructible goddesses, but powerful mages with limited mana.
PS: The Void Clan are not succubi. Might look like one, but they are not.

-When Damia was defeated, she had her power drastically reduced due to her aged state. That's why she activated the guardians there, to avoid confrontation. If you side with her, she greatly recovers the power lost to her age.

That was a dancer at the end of chapter 4. There are 2 factions of the Shadow Knife clan:
-Mountain tigers: ninjas extremely skilled in combat
-Desert Vipers: dancers who seduce and plan traps, but who have zero combat skills.
Aeolos defeated a Desert Viper, not a Mountain Tiger.

-Aeolos is treated well by the angels and his fellow hunters. That might be it. They like to make him feel like home there in Adalon. There is no prophecy for him there. His welcome there. That's it. They do that with all other hunters.

-Yep, a man can make a contract with a succubus to gain forbidden knowledge. He becomes a sorcerer. They don't gain the bodily transformation that a witch has, though, like being able to drain vitality to rejuvenate themselves.

-The ritual is a kid/innocent person is sacrificed in a altar where when the soul tries to escape the body, it's eaten by the succubus, sealing the deal. It's the only time where a non royal clan can feed on a soul.
No im not against him overcoming odds and no i havent watched beserk,i dont watch anime in general,still i think you have taken this way too personally,im not saying your story is flawed just that Aeolos doing so much by HIMSELF without any aid against succubi that are constantly advertized as very strong or legendary and he has such a easy time finish them off,maybe tone down that praising of the bosses if they will be easily destroyed? Or add some back up for the bosses maybe in a hard dificulty or special dificulty mode where bosses or even normal enemies are multiple at ones.
Seems like you have taken offense and now scramble to justify his acomplishments while keeping him "normal",lets face it Aeolos is not normal at all,if its not a prophesy (kind of hinted since he has started a legendary bloodline that lasts far into the future) or just plot armor,like every "anime protagonist" as they say.

The whole poison and scar thing is a welcome thing if it affects the story/gameplay at all,not just mentioned here and there and then forgotten,it needs to be impactful,one more reason why the incubus helping you is FAR more realistic and logic option and i will pick it 10/10 times.

I get what you mean by glass canon build but its kind of weird and doesnt quite add up,the succubi are far taller and weight more than the average human,im not sure how high and heavy Aeolos is but the succubi overpower him in many categories from magic to physical strenght,the only thing that somewhat justifies what you said is that most wear little armor or none at all but even so with all that magic,height,body weight they should be able to pin and overpower Aeolos and have the endurance to take more than a few swings of his sword,why dont they wear armor? Or use magic to make an aura of protection or something like that?

Im also having a hart time believing that higher ranked succubi like the spider,duchess and her second in command or the dancer dont have any close quarters skills,some succubi even have weapons,if anything the whole glass canon build of the succubi is weak for their standards but stronger and more durable than normal humans or even stronger humans barring legendary ones.
Angels ofcourse overwhelm succubi,as they are stronger by nature,although some games/stories make them equal in power or both strong in their own ways,why did you make angels stronger than succubi? Just curious about your idea.

Unless you say that Aeolos and other hunters are enhanced physically and mentally by angels i dont see how a normal human could challange even the weakest succubus physically,magically or mentally.

If Aeolos werent the protagonist he would have died by now,like the event about him escorting the red little hood and finding mid-sex that she is a succubus,that is how realistically he could have died,by not a whole plot or all powerful enemy but by a slight moment of self indulgance or innatention,even the whole succubus dancer and all members paralysed part was somewhat stupid but how come Aeolos isnt paralysed too? He is somewhat weaker and the fight kind of hard but he wins regardless.

MGQ protagonist Lukas has a more grounded feel,he is struggling alot and noticibly during the fight and story to fight the monsters,even the weakest of them and his victories are more believable using an artefact used by a legendary monster hunter (spoilers) even gets powered up near the end to further drive the point home that a normal human cant take monsters on his own.He also has alice supporting him and players will lose fight most of the time the first time they try it,unlike in SC where you just barge in,destroy them,refuse to elaborate and leave.


Im very interested to know more about sorcerers,the rituals, deals and so on. Will we ever get a game where we play as one of them or a succubus? Like a spin off where we play the "bad guys" to give a new perspective.

I knew that succubi do feed on souls even if they arent royals,its what they are originally know for,eating souls as the myths say,doesnt this mean that succubi are very aggresive in recruiting witches and others? To get as many souls as they can? How stronger does a soul make a succubus? Both this way and by soul drain?
 

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Zion of Olympus please check out Domination Desire Banished or DDB,it has a very interesting system with lust,ejaculation and level drain that strenghtens the enemy plus some fancy grapples,this could be a good inspiration for SC,imagine SC with this system or a similar one,it would make the combat in SC even better and close or on par with the great story.
 

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No im not against him overcoming odds and no i havent watched beserk,i dont watch anime in general,still i think you have taken this way too personally,im not saying your story is flawed just that Aeolos doing so much by HIMSELF without any aid against succubi that are constantly advertized as very strong or legendary and he has such a easy time finish them off,maybe tone down that praising of the bosses if they will be easily destroyed? Or add some back up for the bosses maybe in a hard dificulty or special dificulty mode where bosses or even normal enemies are multiple at ones.
Seems like you have taken offense and now scramble to justify his acomplishments while keeping him "normal",lets face it Aeolos is not normal at all,if its not a prophesy (kind of hinted since he has started a legendary bloodline that lasts far into the future) or just plot armor,like every "anime protagonist" as they say.

The whole poison and scar thing is a welcome thing if it affects the story/gameplay at all,not just mentioned here and there and then forgotten,it needs to be impactful,one more reason why the incubus helping you is FAR more realistic and logic option and i will pick it 10/10 times.

I get what you mean by glass canon build but its kind of weird and doesnt quite add up,the succubi are far taller and weight more than the average human,im not sure how high and heavy Aeolos is but the succubi overpower him in many categories from magic to physical strenght,the only thing that somewhat justifies what you said is that most wear little armor or none at all but even so with all that magic,height,body weight they should be able to pin and overpower Aeolos and have the endurance to take more than a few swings of his sword,why dont they wear armor? Or use magic to make an aura of protection or something like that?

Im also having a hart time believing that higher ranked succubi like the spider,duchess and her second in command or the dancer dont have any close quarters skills,some succubi even have weapons,if anything the whole glass canon build of the succubi is weak for their standards but stronger and more durable than normal humans or even stronger humans barring legendary ones.
Angels ofcourse overwhelm succubi,as they are stronger by nature,although some games/stories make them equal in power or both strong in their own ways,why did you make angels stronger than succubi? Just curious about your idea.

Unless you say that Aeolos and other hunters are enhanced physically and mentally by angels i dont see how a normal human could challange even the weakest succubus physically,magically or mentally.

If Aeolos werent the protagonist he would have died by now,like the event about him escorting the red little hood and finding mid-sex that she is a succubus,that is how realistically he could have died,by not a whole plot or all powerful enemy but by a slight moment of self indulgance or innatention,even the whole succubus dancer and all members paralysed part was somewhat stupid but how come Aeolos isnt paralysed too? He is somewhat weaker and the fight kind of hard but he wins regardless.

MGQ protagonist Lukas has a more grounded feel,he is struggling alot and noticibly during the fight and story to fight the monsters,even the weakest of them and his victories are more believable using an artefact used by a legendary monster hunter (spoilers) even gets powered up near the end to further drive the point home that a normal human cant take monsters on his own.He also has alice supporting him and players will lose fight most of the time the first time they try it,unlike in SC where you just barge in,destroy them,refuse to elaborate and leave.


Im very interested to know more about sorcerers,the rituals, deals and so on. Will we ever get a game where we play as one of them or a succubus? Like a spin off where we play the "bad guys" to give a new perspective.

I knew that succubi do feed on souls even if they arent royals,its what they are originally know for,eating souls as the myths say,doesnt this mean that succubi are very aggresive in recruiting witches and others? To get as many souls as they can? How stronger does a soul make a succubus? Both this way and by soul drain?
I apologize if I gave the impression that I was angry. That was not my objective. I was just trying to explain how I developed the game and story.

Since there is a lot here, I'll go by points.

The Main Problem:
The main problem here was probably caused by:
A: My fault as I didn't covey the right idea for what I wanted for the true power of the succubi.
B: You bringing other media into SC, like monster girl quest and thinking that the power was similar.

The Power Level:
My idea for the succubi is that they are like Zergs and angels are like Protoss from Starcraft. Zergs are many, but individually they aren't that much of a problem. The real problem are their numbers that can overwhelm an adversary.
Succubi have a deeper mana pool, but it's always draining, so they must be wise with their casting of spells, and they are not built for physical combat and can be easily brought down if engaged like this (for the most part, there are exceptions).

Advertising Succubi as Very Strong:
The main advertence that the hunters get is to not avoid their temptation by using the Soaring Gauntlet.
Another advertence is how they infest the world.
But I don't remember advertising them as uniquely strong (with exceptions to the Elemental and Royal Clan). Like a one succubus army, destroying everything.
In every cutscene, there are tons of them. For example, the Bloody Jaw fight against them. It was one warrior against one succubus. And they didn't have Aeolos relics at all, but crude equipment.
The only exception was the Elemental Clan succubus, that could temporarily stop time around her, but when that magic faded, she would be relatively vulnerable, since it drained a LOT of her magic.

God of Gifts Choice:
You said that it was the only logical choice, but was it really?
You didn't even know that the summoning would work. For all Aeolos saw, it could have been just a myth from a tribe.
Even if summoned that was no guarantee that this entity would help at all. In fact, it could have made things worse.
You only discovered it was a relatively good choice AFTER you summoned him. And there might still be consequences ahead.
And the story and gameplay was affected by it because depending on who you sided with in the Witch Damia quest, you received different bonuses or onuses.

Correlation Between Height/Weight and Strength:
I don't get your point here. Yes succubi are taller, and they weight a lot, but it's not focused on their muscle (exception being the Scarlet Hellish). Not to mention that they have horns, tail, and sometimes wings.
I'll give you two examples from my life:
-I'm a short guy (170/5'7), and I went to the gym for the first time with my friend who was like 195cm and weighted a lot (he was overweight), and I was still stronger than him, pulling more weight than him.
-At college, I had a tall and thick female teacher, and she always asked me (I was one of the only men in the class) to move things around because she struggled with them. She was like 182 and thick too.
So no, I don't see any correlation between height (unless we are talking about giants) and strength.
Not to mention that Aeolos attacks are magical in nature thanks to his relics.
Plus, succubi don't have healing or protection magic. That's an angel thing. While succubi fight with destructive power, angels fight with healing and protection.

Succubi fighting style:
You said that you have a hard time believing that succubi don't have physical training, but is that really a surprise?
They are magical in nature. With the exception of a few factions of clans, the overwhelming majority fights with magic.
Your entire population looks down on physical fighting, while you have a natural affinity to magic.
So obviously they would seek to master their magic and search for magical relics to enhance that.
Once the relic is found, like Gloriosa's whip, they can do heavy damage to their enemies without necessarily relying on their own physical prowess, since the true damage will be magical/acid/etc

Normal Men Fighting Succubi:
I said that and shown that in game, that basically all men can in fact defeat a succubus as long as they manage to avoid their temptation and avoid magical attacks.
They don't use temptation in a full scale battle, so the Bloody Jaw tribe fought against them with crude weapons.
Many died from magical attacks. Aeolos would die if he didn't manage to avoid their attacks too.

Aeolos Power Level (Little Math):
Aeolos with the angelic relics is 1/5 of the power of an lower angel such as Asariel.
Angels can take down 5 succubus on average at once. So, they are 5 times stronger than Aeolos.
It's only natural that Aeolos, can take down one succubus at a time, since he is 1/5 of the power of an angel that can take down 5 succubi.

Aeolos Dying:
Well, it's a game lol
I give you choices. To expect Aeolos to simply drop dead without any chance of choosing... I don't know what to say to this.
Is the Warden from dragon age "chosen" because he did an amazing thing such as stopping a civil war and killing the archdemon? Wat?

Aeolos Paralysis:
Aeolos didn't get paralyzed because he arrived late. Did you forget the others were already drinking by the time he showed up?
So, when Aeolos started to feel the effects of the drug, the others were sleeping already, since they started sooner.
And yes, he won because she was a Desert Viper. He'd be dead if she was a Mountain Tiger who knows how to fight.

Luka from MGQ:
Can't say much as I didn't play it. But from what I saw, it's mostly him struggling with how sexy the girls are.
Like your typical shota protagonist who is weak against boobs.

Succubus Game:
I have no interest in this. I have tons of other stories that I'd like to develop, such as Kain origin and The Void Wars.

Witches:
The contact is usually made by the humans. Since the succubi already have a lot on their hands, considering the number of worlds being invaded.
But Succubi certainly use humans to advance themselves in the hierarchy. Such as commanding them to search for relics and so on.

Succubus feeding on Souls:
Souls don't have a succubus stronger (as in breaking her natural limit). It just recharge her mana pool better/faster, which the Royal Clan prefer since they have deep mana pools.

Domination Desire Banished:
I will take a look if I can.
 
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Aeolos Dying:
Well, it's a game lol
I give you choices. To expect Aeolos to simply drop dead without any chance of choosing... I don't know what to say to this.
Is the Warden from dragon age "chosen" because he did an amazing thing such as stopping a civil war and killing the archdemon? Wat?
I can tell you why the Warden wasn't chosen... It's because Bioware didn't even bother to give them a cameo position in the following games. WHY? WHY BIOWARE? THE WARDEN WAS THE ONLY ONE I REALLY CARED ABOUT! CURSE YOU HAWK FOR STEALING THE MAGE QUEEN'S CAMEO IN INQUISITION!
 
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hey guys,i can't save in this game,even though i play in scene where main and his friend are given to the weapons of his predecessor,i cant save game,can you guys help me?
skip the intro and go to a camp fire, you can only save in a campfire after you light it in a flint (i think the intro is still bugged tho)
 
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I apologize if I gave the impression that I was angry. That was not my objective. I was just trying to explain how I developed the game and story.

Since there is a lot here, I'll go by points.

The Main Problem:
The main problem here was probably caused by:
A: My fault as I didn't covey the right idea for what I wanted for the true power of the succubi.
B: You bringing other media into SC, like monster girl quest and thinking that the power was similar.

The Power Level:
My idea for the succubi is that they are like Zergs and angels are like Protoss from Starcraft. Zergs are many, but individually they aren't that much of a problem. The real problem are their numbers that can overwhelm an adversary.
Succubi have a deeper mana pool, but it's always draining, so they must be wise with their casting of spells, and they are not built for physical combat and can be easily brought down if engaged like this (for the most part, there are exceptions).

Advertising Succubi as Very Strong:
The main advertence that the hunters get is to not avoid their temptation by using the Soaring Gauntlet.
Another advertence is how they infest the world.
But I don't remember advertising them as uniquely strong (with exceptions to the Elemental and Royal Clan). Like a one succubus army, destroying everything.
In every cutscene, there are tons of them. For example, the Bloody Jaw fight against them. It was one warrior against one succubus. And they didn't have Aeolos relics at all, but crude equipment.
The only exception was the Elemental Clan succubus, that could temporarily stop time around her, but when that magic faded, she would be relatively vulnerable, since it drained a LOT of her magic.

God of Gifts Choice:
You said that it was the only logical choice, but was it really?
You didn't even know that the summoning would work. For all Aeolos saw, it could have been just a myth from a tribe.
Even if summoned that was no guarantee that this entity would help at all. In fact, it could have made things worse.
You only discovered it was a relatively good choice AFTER you summoned him. And there might still be consequences ahead.
And the story and gameplay was affected by it because depending on who you sided with in the Witch Damia quest, you received different bonuses or onuses.

Correlation Between Height/Weight and Strength:
I don't get your point here. Yes succubi are taller, and they weight a lot, but it's not focused on their muscle (exception being the Scarlet Hellish). Not to mention that they have horns, tail, and sometimes wings.
I'll give you two examples from my life:
-I'm a short guy (170/5'7), and I went to the gym for the first time with my friend who was like 195cm and weighted a lot (he was overweight), and I was still stronger than him, pulling more weight than him.
-At college, I had a tall and thick female teacher, and she always asked me (I was one of the only men in the class) to move things around because she struggled with them. She was like 182 and thick too.
So no, I don't see any correlation between height (unless we are talking about giants) and strength.
Not to mention that Aeolos attacks are magical in nature thanks to his relics.
Plus, succubi don't have healing or protection magic. That's an angel thing. While succubi fight with destructive power, angels fight with healing and protection.

Succubi fighting style:
You said that you have a hard time believing that succubi don't have physical training, but is that really a surprise?
They are magical in nature. With the exception of a few factions of clans, the overwhelming majority fights with magic.
Your entire population looks down on physical fighting, while you have a natural affinity to magic.
So obviously they would seek to master their magic and search for magical relics to enhance that.
Once the relic is found, like Gloriosa's whip, they can do heavy damage to their enemies without necessarily relying on their own physical prowess, since the true damage will be magical/acid/etc

Normal Men Fighting Succubi:
I said that and shown that in game, that basically all men can in fact defeat a succubus as long as they manage to avoid their temptation and avoid magical attacks.
They don't use temptation in a full scale battle, so the Bloody Jaw tribe fought against them with crude weapons.
Many died from magical attacks. Aeolos would die if he didn't manage to avoid their attacks too.

Aeolos Power Level (Little Math):
Aeolos with the angelic relics is 1/5 of the power of an lower angel such as Asariel.
Angels can take down 5 succubus on average at once. So, they are 5 times stronger than Aeolos.
It's only natural that Aeolos, can take down one succubus at a time, since he is 1/5 of the power of an angel that can take down 5 succubi.

Aeolos Dying:
Well, it's a game lol
I give you choices. To expect Aeolos to simply drop dead without any chance of choosing... I don't know what to say to this.
Is the Warden from dragon age "chosen" because he did an amazing thing such as stopping a civil war and killing the archdemon? Wat?

Aeolos Paralysis:
Aeolos didn't get paralyzed because he arrived late. Did you forget the others were already drinking by the time he showed up?
So, when Aeolos started to feel the effects of the drug, the others were sleeping already, since they started sooner.
And yes, he won because she was a Desert Viper. He'd be dead if she was a Mountain Tiger who knows how to fight.

Luka from MGQ:
Can't say much as I didn't play it. But from what I saw, it's mostly him struggling with how sexy the girls are.
Like your typical shota protagonist who is weak against boobs.

Succubus Game:
I have no interest in this. I have tons of other stories that I'd like to develop, such as Kain origin and The Void Wars.

Witches:
The contact is usually made by the humans. Since the succubi already have a lot on their hands, considering the number of worlds being invaded.
But Succubi certainly use humans to advance themselves in the hierarchy. Such as commanding them to search for relics and so on.

Succubus feeding on Souls:
Souls don't have a succubus stronger (as in breaking her natural limit). It just recharge her mana pool better/faster, which the Royal Clan prefer since they have deep mana pools.

Domination Desire Banished:
I will take a look if I can.
Zion the other reason Luka in mgq is weak to pleasure is because of his angelic lineage at least 3 to 4 times sensitive to pleasure and because of his high quality genes monster girls are attracted to him oh and the reason ho looks like a shota besides the obvious is because his body ages more slowly than a normal human.
 
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Zion the other reason Luka in mgq is weak to pleasure is because of his angelic lineage at least 3 to 4 times sensitive to pleasure and because of his high quality genes monster girls are attracted to him oh and the reason ho looks like a shota besides the obvious is because his body ages more slowly than a normal human.
Oh I see. Thanks!
I didn't play but it was an educated guess from what I saw + the shota thing.
 

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Zion, i have a question, will there be an option to fool hunters to save the Witch, something like agree to help the witch but instead of killing hunters show them fake witch's book and her name
 
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Zion, i have a question, will there be an option to fool hunters to save the Witch, something like agree to help the witch but instead of killing hunters show them fake witch's book and her name
Nope. You can't fool a Witch Hunter with fake grimoire. They are unique for every witch, and they have been hunting Damia for a long time.

There a way to review the scenes for chapter 3 and 4 cause I can review 1 and 2 but not those ones
Recollection room will be added in the next chapter, concluding the game for good.
 

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Nope. You can't fool a Witch Hunter with fake grimoire. They are unique for every witch, and they have been hunting Damia for a long time.


Recollection room will be added in the next chapter, concluding the game for good.
Fine, than is there any other way to save captured hunter(forgot his name) without relying on hunters? Probably if we summon dark God but it seems like a really bad choice, cause i watched this event, saved and replayed everything this time siding with hunters( spent about 13 hours on everything) and fought the duchess
 

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Fine, than is there any other way to save captured hunter(forgot his name) without relying on hunters? Probably if we summon dark God but it seems like a really bad choice, cause i watched this event, saved and replayed everything this time siding with hunters( spent about 13 hours on everything) and fought the duchess
These are choices and consequences. If there is a way to "work around" bad situation/events the consequence part would be meaningless.
Make the choice you prefer and deal with the consequences for you and others.
 

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I have a question what are the shining objekts in the fream world
I cant seem to find any way to interact with them
 

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From what I've understood from the lore so far, Succubi can't just manifest themselves into worlds/outside of hell. They need portals/entry points. Where they've already established those worlds they keep those setup, and funnel livestock as well for succubi to feed on and power up. But where they don't have any foothold, they either need some way of setting that up, or have to be summoned (by a warlock or other resident).

I suppose they could also fly in from another world first, but that hasn't been shown yet.

So theoretically if someone can get to said entry point and shut it down, that world could be safe. If all the entry points get shut down, and every succubi was defeated and set back to level 1, the angel side effectively won at that point as there is no way for succubi to level up. A human warlock could then start the problem again, but as long as it is quickly addressed it wouldn't be as hard to handle.

I don't really know how the angels work or what their story is, not much has been revealed on that except they're more powerful individually than succubi. Or how humans really figure into this---they are prey to succubi but apparently don't go to a heaven or hell--where succubi and angels hail from. I think the lore has a god that oversees angels but he doesn't do much.

There was also stuff in the lore of Void beings that are so powerful hell and heaven/angels+succubi have to ally against them, and for whatever reason both sides don't want them around. Maybe it was called something else, been awhile since I read it. So I guess there's a ton of stuff still left to reveal. AFAIK we only saw like 3 tribes out of however many succubi ones, and it's mostly leaf that we deal with. We see the Royals in flashbacks but they haven't done anything yet, and I don't know that Aelos can even do anything against them, I guess he can to the Leaf Queen now with the powerups but that's probably his overall limit.
Nice take! Can't wait to go back to work and reveal more secrets!
 
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