RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[Zion of Olympus]

Predating the universe? Like the Void Clan?

Yep, but the void clan were just foot soldiers that managed to get dragged into the new universe and became "goddesses" by elimination, since their masters were locked out of it and still inhabiting the previous universe.

 

[Karl Speidel]

Who is god? Veridatha is what the Seven Heavenly Virtues remember first, the one who gave them life. But is he the first? He surely was the creator... right?

I treat the lore of SC like ES does. It's a bunch of information from biased parts of the conflict. The truth might never been known. You have only fragments of dubious information to put together in a puzzle that might not be completable from the very beginning.


-I'll see what I can do about puzzles. Will try my best.

-The reason why the witch Damia didn't have any seduction during combat is because that is a power exclusive to the succubi, that no human could ever be able to match.
It's not just them being hot and saying sexy things, it's mental/mind magic that fucks up your brain into just giving up.
Only succubi, a parasite created to seduce can use that in combat, as part of her "combat skill set".

-I don't know what you mean here, because Aeolos is a normal human. I hate chosen ones too.
There is no prophecy guiding him and he isn't special in any way either. His parents were normal people too.
Aeolos just trained very hard to inherit the angelic weapons since Kain was getting old and so was the other hunters.
Like, there is absolutely nothing special about Aeolos. Anyone could have gone through what he did. His accomplishments are his own.

-You can't force a human to accept a pact. It must be willing. For whatever reason, but willing. Even if the human lie to herself saying that "it's necessary".
Witches can use a variety of weapons, but really, which powers can compare to Hellish Magic? A fireball can kill many humans, poison/acid can dissolve them, etc. Magic is simply so much more versatile. Why train with a sword and shield when you can literally fry your enemies with thunder.
I ask you to remember that I try to create SC lore the more "realistically or believable" as possible. If we had magic in the real world, would people use swords and arrows, when they could just electrocute and burn their enemies from afar?

-With a succubus? No. Singing a pact with a succubus require you to kill an innocent. Like a little kid or a baby, so the succubus will consume their souls. There is no "good" person who would do that. A good person would seek the angels instead. Which brings me to the next point.

-Yes, some humans would make pacts with angels. There are many factions of them, like the Swords of Heaven, who are basically mindless killing machines (doom guy killing demons style) that live only for 10 years after the pact, due to the stress of their bodies.
And you have the Nephilim, who offer their souls to an angel in exchange for power. After their death, they are allowed to join the Soaring Heaven, as his soul becomes bound to it.

What is ES? Interesting how you put it,mysterious and somewhat psychological like those movies,i wonder if you will make it as good as you gave me the impression here.

Idk man,i get what your trying to do or plan to but Aeolos feels like one of those anime protagonists that are hugely overpowered and beat legendary or super strong characters the first time around just because he is the protagonist. Talk no Jutsu comes to mind:

In my opinion Aeolos is special or overpowered for those reasons:
-he goes toe to toe with the duchess,yes he is just defending until others arrive but still he shouldnt be able to survive her,this implies Aeolos is close to if not at her level,a duchess of a succubi clan,and you claim he is just a normal human.
I dont like the execution of that said choice,like to to the "god of gifts" to help you against the duchess and her hoard,which seems the most logical and not pulled out of your ass kind of thing,since its downright impossible that Aeolos and his gang would be able to take said horde on their own which is over-hyped plus the duchess so early on.
I liked the "god of gifts" arc and the incubus's character plus all the story we got,the 2 succubuses appeared again and it was believable,funny as you claim realism is your goal.


-He fights alot of succubuses,many times without pause,most of them are leaf the weakest true but he fights a beast and a arachnid succubus both are said to be much stronger than the leaf plus the lover/second in command of the duchess.Here it might be because of gameplay and story segregation but it feels overpowered,like he is one man army and even strong for hunter standards,the sucubi he encounters also dont seem afraid of him at all which means that the average avalon hunter isnt nearly as strong as him.

-the way Kain,the angels and others talk to him makes it sound like he is part of a prophesy or special in some way,understandable since the protagonist most of the time has to be special to make the players happy and engaged but if it is the case dont claim otherwise,its ok.

-He kills a very old and experienced witch or 3 demon hunters like its nothing,he beats the chief and shaman of the broken jaw(?) or what is their name,he defeats his mirror self in the trial and overall gives the chosen one vibes.

-he kills a assasin succubus that is part of the elite at the end of chapter 4 by himself with no apparent effort,others are impressed by this.

I could go on but you get the point,its my personal take but he seems like a chosen one.

Its interesting what you said about a succubus contract,you didnt mention before she has to kill someone,can you tell us more about the ritual and how it goes? Can a man sign a contract with a succubus?

 

[Zion of Olympus]

What is ES? Interesting how you put it,mysterious and somewhat psychological like those movies,i wonder if you will make it as good as you gave me the impression here.

Idk man,i get what your trying to do or plan to but Aeolos feels like one of those anime protagonists that are hugely overpowered and beat legendary or super strong characters the first time around just because he is the protagonist. Talk no Jutsu comes to mind:

In my opinion Aeolos is special or overpowered for those reasons:
-he goes toe to toe with the duchess,yes he is just defending until others arrive but still he shouldnt be able to survive her,this implies Aeolos is close to if not at her level,a duchess of a succubi clan,and you claim he is just a normal human.
I dont like the execution of that said choice,like to to the "god of gifts" to help you against the duchess and her hoard,which seems the most logical and not pulled out of your ass kind of thing,since its downright impossible that Aeolos and his gang would be able to take said horde on their own which is over-hyped plus the duchess so early on.
I liked the "god of gifts" arc and the incubus's character plus all the story we got,the 2 succubuses appeared again and it was believable,funny as you claim realism is your goal.


-He fights alot of succubuses,many times without pause,most of them are leaf the weakest true but he fights a beast and a arachnid succubus both are said to be much stronger than the leaf plus the lover/second in command of the duchess.Here it might be because of gameplay and story segregation but it feels overpowered,like he is one man army and even strong for hunter standards,the sucubi he encounters also dont seem afraid of him at all which means that the average avalon hunter isnt nearly as strong as him.

-the way Kain,the angels and others talk to him makes it sound like he is part of a prophesy or special in some way,understandable since the protagonist most of the time has to be special to make the players happy and engaged but if it is the case dont claim otherwise,its ok.

-He kills a very old and experienced witch or 3 demon hunters like its nothing,he beats the chief and shaman of the broken jaw(?) or what is their name,he defeats his mirror self in the trial and overall gives the chosen one vibes.

-he kills a assasin succubus that is part of the elite at the end of chapter 4 by himself with no apparent effort,others are impressed by this.

I could go on but you get the point,its my personal take but he seems like a chosen one.

Its interesting what you said about a succubus contract,you didnt mention before she has to kill someone,can you tell us more about the ritual and how it goes? Can a man sign a contract with a succubus?

I read what you posted and it seems to me that you are against him overcoming odds.

Take for example Guts, from berserk. His entire life was dedicated to overcoming odds that would kill any other man. Same as Aeolos did, recruited very young and trained by Kain and the other hunters for 10 years. Brutal training.
Does that make Guts special? Not for me. It makes him a survivalist that has been training more than others since birth and overcame every single challenge using all he could.

In fact, I could compare Aeolos fight against the Duchess with Guts vs Zodd for the first time. He couldn't win, he could just hold his ground until help arrived.
And Aeolos is forever scarred by that encounter with the Duchess if you choose the hunter's side. That scar and poison screwed his health, something that he'll probably have to carry out for the rest of his life.

Also, the real danger of the succubi are not their individual powers, but their numbers. Individually, you can imagine a succubus as a mage. The higher the rank, the more powerful the mage. But get past the magic and in close combat and they fall rather quickly.
It's the "Glass Canon" build. Extremely deadly, but easy to kill.
Aeolos does that exactly that with his relics.
When angels fight succubi they quickly dispatch them, and those who can't, are overwhelmed by numbers. Which, again, is the true strength of the the succubi. Like a zombie horde.
I never intended for succubi to be like indestructible goddesses, but powerful mages with limited mana.
PS: The Void Clan are not succubi. Might look like one, but they are not.

-When Damia was defeated, she had her power drastically reduced due to her aged state. That's why she activated the guardians there, to avoid confrontation. If you side with her, she greatly recovers the power lost to her age.

That was a dancer at the end of chapter 4. There are 2 factions of the Shadow Knife clan:
-Mountain tigers: ninjas extremely skilled in combat
-Desert Vipers: dancers who seduce and plan traps, but who have zero combat skills.
Aeolos defeated a Desert Viper, not a Mountain Tiger.

-Aeolos is treated well by the angels and his fellow hunters. That might be it. They like to make him feel like home there in Adalon. There is no prophecy for him there. His welcome there. That's it. They do that with all other hunters.

-Yep, a man can make a contract with a succubus to gain forbidden knowledge. He becomes a sorcerer. They don't gain the bodily transformation that a witch has, though, like being able to drain vitality to rejuvenate themselves.

-The ritual is a kid/innocent person is sacrificed in a altar where when the soul tries to escape the body, it's eaten by the succubus, sealing the deal. It's the only time where a non royal clan can feed on a soul.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

I read what you posted and it seems to me that you are against him overcoming odds.

Take for example Guts, from berserk. His entire life was dedicated to overcoming odds that would kill any other man. Same as Aeolos did, recruited very young and trained by Kain and the other hunters for 10 years. Brutal training.
Does that make Guts special? Not for me. It makes him a survivalist that has been training more than others since birth and overcame every single challenge using all he could.

In fact, I could compare Aeolos fight against the Duchess with Guts vs Zodd for the first time. He couldn't win, he could just hold his ground until help arrived.
And Aeolos is forever scarred by that encounter with the Duchess if you choose the hunter's side. That scar and poison screwed his health, something that he'll probably have to carry out for the rest of his life.

Also, the real danger of the succubi are not their individual powers, but their numbers. Individually, you can imagine a succubus as a mage. The higher the rank, the more powerful the mage. But get past the magic and in close combat and they fall rather quickly.
It's the "Glass Canon" build. Extremely deadly, but easy to kill.
Aeolos does that exactly that with his relics.
When angels fight succubi they quickly dispatch them, and those who can't, are overwhelmed by numbers. Which, again, is the true strength of the the succubi. Like a zombie horde.
I never intended for succubi to be like indestructible goddesses, but powerful mages with limited mana.
PS: The Void Clan are not succubi. Might look like one, but they are not.

-When Damia was defeated, she had her power drastically reduced due to her aged state. That's why she activated the guardians there, to avoid confrontation. If you side with her, she greatly recovers the power lost to her age.

That was a dancer at the end of chapter 4. There are 2 factions of the Shadow Knife clan:
-Mountain tigers: ninjas extremely skilled in combat
-Desert Vipers: dancers who seduce and plan traps, but who have zero combat skills.
Aeolos defeated a Desert Viper, not a Mountain Tiger.

-Aeolos is treated well by the angels and his fellow hunters. That might be it. They like to make him feel like home there in Adalon. There is no prophecy for him there. His welcome there. That's it. They do that with all other hunters.

-Yep, a man can make a contract with a succubus to gain forbidden knowledge. He becomes a sorcerer. They don't gain the bodily transformation that a witch has, though, like being able to drain vitality to rejuvenate themselves.

-The ritual is a kid/innocent person is sacrificed in a altar where when the soul tries to escape the body, it's eaten by the succubus, sealing the deal. It's the only time where a non royal clan can feed on a soul.

Funny enough, berserk first page is actually a similar to what happens in the game

 

[Zion of Olympus]

Funny enough, berserk first page is actually a similar to what happens in the game View attachment 2119567

Berserk is an inspiration for sure, but I didn't even noticed this similarity hahahaha

 

[nezus]

hey guys,i can't save in this game,even though i play in scene where main and his friend are given to the weapons of his predecessor,i cant save game,can you guys help me?

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

Berserk is an inspiration for sure, but I didn't even noticed this similarity hahahaha

Yeahh its a succubus demon that was only in the first chapater and later was also shown in the Golden age arc.

Berserk is one of the best mangas out there. Just like your story.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

hey guys,i can't save in this game,even though i play in scene where main and his friend are given to the weapons of his predecessor,i cant save game,can you guys help me?

It's a bug in that prologue that will be fixed in the next release. Once you reach the beach, start the game again while skipping the prologue and you will be able to save.

 

[Dreamer44]

Yep, but the void clan were just foot soldiers that managed to get dragged into the new universe and became "goddesses" by elimination, since their masters were locked out of it and still inhabiting the previous universe.

Unless they became more powerful when arriving to the new universe, I shudder to think what did these 'foot soldiers' served...

 

[maishia]

hello and good morning or evening to you zion of olympus i have some questions about things im curious about that i would like to ask you :

what time line is the next part in? past present or future?
is anything new from this game series coming out this year? or will it be in 2023?

is this game series possible to have 2 or more artists in it? or is one artist the limit?is there future possibility for karryns prison artist to be included alongside the new artist?

are there plans for enemies who only use paizuri/have only paizuri scenes?
it would spice of the games erotic scenes if there could be diffrent types of paizuri , like 69 paizuri scenes for example as it seems that paizuri is underappearciated and seen less than other types of sex in erotic games and anime , it feels like paizuri get short end of the stick as seen lot of times where paizuri scene in erotic game and other media cut off and quick changed into fellatio or vaginal sex.

for a game to have so many big breasts girls taunting the player with their breasts , for them to rarely use them seems kind of underwhelming and dissapointing in its own way , even though everything else about the game is good and with each new chapter fix bug/issue that older chapters have.

is there possibility of short stacked monster girls being added in future chapters?
possibility of monster girls in the past and present games time travel into the future for possible double paizuri and triple paizuri scenes with the future timeline cast of girls?

 

[Mr.Gamer]

You know, I've been wondering. Let's say if an succubus found some random guy in an abandoned building or something, he fights back with some cheap sword and gets knocked down on his back. She pins him and goes through the usual routine and starts riding him while boasting about how she's humiliating him. An group of warriors also hears him screaming and her bragging about how does it feel to be ridden like an horse.

How much force would it take to pull her off of him? And how pissed would she be, afterwards?

You can probably turn this into game mechanic, Zion...Of course, the spotters that you hire will likely die and you can only hire one at increasingly absurd rate.

But from the sounds of combat and her ass clapping, someone is bound to hear what's going on, right?

 

[Zion of Olympus]

hello and good morning or evening to you zion of olympus i have some questions about things im curious about that i would like to ask you :

what time line is the next part in? past present or future?
is anything new from this game series coming out this year? or will it be in 2023?

is this game series possible to have 2 or more artists in it? or is one artist the limit?is there future possibility for karryns prison artist to be included alongside the new artist?

are there plans for enemies who only use paizuri/have only paizuri scenes?
it would spice of the games erotic scenes if there could be diffrent types of paizuri , like 69 paizuri scenes for example as it seems that paizuri is underappearciated and seen less than other types of sex in erotic games and anime , it feels like paizuri get short end of the stick as seen lot of times where paizuri scene in erotic game and other media cut off and quick changed into fellatio or vaginal sex.

for a game to have so many big breasts girls taunting the player with their breasts , for them to rarely use them seems kind of underwhelming and dissapointing in its own way , even though everything else about the game is good and with each new chapter fix bug/issue that older chapters have.

is there possibility of short stacked monster girls being added in future chapters?
possibility of monster girls in the past and present games time travel into the future for possible double paizuri and triple paizuri scenes with the future timeline cast of girls?

Hello! It's a pleasure to speak with you!

-The timeline starts in the future (Future Age) and goes to the past (Bronze Age)
-I don't like monster girls, except succubi and vampires
-I don't like paizure, couldn't care less
-I don't know who the artist is, but the new team is full

You know, I've been wondering. Let's say if an succubus found some random guy in an abandoned building or something, he fights back with some cheap sword and gets knocked down on his back. She pins him and goes through the usual routine and starts riding him while boasting about how she's humiliating him. An group of warriors also hears him screaming and her bragging about how does it feel to be ridden like an horse.

How much force would it take to pull her off of him? And how pissed would she be, afterwards?

You can probably turn this into game mechanic, Zion...Of course, the spotters that you hire will likely die and you can only hire one at increasingly absurd rate.

But from the sounds of combat and her ass clapping, someone is bound to hear what's going on, right?

She'd probably stop upon seeing people getting close to her. Self preservation, after all, is part of survival.

And why take her off him? If she's pinned on the guy it means she didn't see you. Just take her out lol

 

[Succubus Hunter]

You know, I've been wondering. Let's say if an succubus found some random guy in an abandoned building or something, he fights back with some cheap sword and gets knocked down on his back. She pins him and goes through the usual routine and starts riding him while boasting about how she's humiliating him. An group of warriors also hears him screaming and her bragging about how does it feel to be ridden like an horse.

How much force would it take to pull her off of him? And how pissed would she be, afterwards?

You can probably turn this into game mechanic, Zion...Of course, the spotters that you hire will likely die and you can only hire one at increasingly absurd rate.

But from the sounds of combat and her ass clapping, someone is bound to hear what's going on, right?

That scene would be hot as hell. While tactically it would make sense to kill the succubus first but if the group cared about their friend I could see them trying to force her off her food as soon as possible. I could also see this scene being played out with his lover trying to protect him from the powerful she demon.

 

[amokaixin]

-People that just want hentai scenes and have zero interest in the story will just ask for a save file here or in another forum, like I've already seen. In the end, I make games for people that want to play them, not just quickly skip it for a hentai scene.
-Making those cut-scenes gives me more work then what you suggested, with the NPC telling the story of the place. So what I'm doing is definitely not the "lazy" approach. One does not surpass 2 thousand hours developing a game by being lazy.

Cant agree more,anyone should know the exact place---Pxxxhub for people who want those scenes.I'm really impressed with the game,it's the greatest fantasy.
I thought it been built by japanese and tried but failed to find the original (language) version.Now I have to use net translate tool while playing and get my english improved.
I'm stuck at the entrance of the Underground Grove,been told relics not enough.And I'm trying my best to find an understandable method.THX.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

Cant agree more,anyone should know the exact place---Pxxxhub for people who want those scenes.I'm really impressed with the game,it's the greatest fantasy.
I thought it been built by japanese and tried but failed to find the original (language) version.Now I have to use net translate tool while playing and get my english improved.
I'm stuck at the entrance of the Underground Grove,been told relics not enough.And I'm trying my best to find an understandable method.THX.

To get pass that, you must finish the witch quest. You can find the witch hunter in the Bloody Jaw Tribe (first one).

Use our wiki if you need any help. There are some guides here:

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[tenneybox]

I'm stuck at the entrance of the Underground Grove,been told relics not enough.And I'm trying my best to find an understandable method.THX.

You must finish the witch hunter quest in order to proceed. The witch hunter is somewhere in the Bloody Jaw tribe and the witch is inside Magical Ruins.

 

[Revolver1]

To get pass that, you must finish the witch quest. You can find the witch hunter in the Bloody Jaw Tribe (first one).

Use our wiki if you need any help. There are some guides here:

You must be registered to see the links

Zion, hope you are doing well during these difficult times. A few questions:
1. Is there anything that can be done to the succubi? When they get killed, they only start all the way back to level 1, then what's the point? Won't their numbers only increase drastically overtime until they beat humans and Angels in terms of total population?
2. What about Angels? They are smaller in number, but can anything be done to increase their numbers? Do Angels die or are they immortal as well?
3. In the game, are you implying that souls are immortal? That even if you kill the flesh, Human or not, then the souls will always exist? Would this not mean that succubi are a permanent problem?
4. How do succubi even revive or obtain a "body" when they are killed?
5. What happens to Human's when they die?

For obvious reasons, I know that you won't spoil things, but this game alone emphasizes what an immense advantage the antagonist has because of their charm, energy drain, semi-immortality (Even if you kill them, their souls will come back in time any way), and what's more other people can be turned into succubi.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

Hey! Long time no see!

1- There isn't anything that can be done about it. This is a war that started from the very beginning of the universe and continues to this day.
It's a process that takes time, so angels fortify reconquered planets/dimensions and train humans (or native intelligent life) to defend it.
The main objective of this war is to get to a point where either Hell or Heaven is overrun by the opposite force, and any spirit trying to retake form is cut out before that can happen.

2-Angels are similar, they grow in numbers too, but each angel is worth 5 succubi at least. So even if their numbers grow 5X slower, the balance is kept.
Remember that heaven pulls good and neutral spirits while hell pulls evil and neutral ones.

3-Souls are immortal, but not indestructible. If a succubus eats a soul, it's destroyed.
Souls =/= Spirit. Souls are very small and need a body to be conscious. IT's what mortals have. Spirit are conscious entities without body, that when pull to heaven or hell will take form as a demon or as a divine.

4-Their bodies are actually their souls given form. Hell restores them to their form exactly like if they were taking form for the first time. It's Hell or Heaven that determines their appearance, and since Heaven and Hell are the corpse of Ascalon and Veridatha, there is no greater will to overwrite that.
Angels are the same, they are rebuilt in Heaven.

5-Big question, since no one knows. Heaven and Hell are not meant for humans, so they go somewhere else...
Where? I'm not ready to give that answer yet.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

Hey! Long time no see!

1- There isn't anything that can be done about it. This is a war that started from the very beginning of the universe and continues to this day.
It's a process that takes time, so angels fortify reconquered planets/dimensions and train humans (or native intelligent life) to defend it.
The main objective of this war is to get to a point where either Hell or Heaven is overrun by the opposite force, and any spirit trying to retake form is cut out before that can happen.

2-Angels are similar, they grow in numbers too, but each angel is worth 5 succubi at least. So even if their numbers grow 5X slower, the balance is kept.
Remember that heaven pulls good and neutral spirits while hell pulls evil and neutral ones.

3-Souls are immortal, but not indestructible. If a succubus eats a soul, it's destroyed.
Souls =/= Spirit. Souls are very small and need a body to be conscious. IT's what mortals have. Spirit are conscious entities without body, that when pull to heaven or hell will take form as a demon or as a divine.

4-Their bodies are actually their souls given form. Hell restores them to their form exactly like if they were taking form for the first time. It's Hell or Heaven that determines their appearance, and since Heaven and Hell are the corpse of Ascalon and Veridatha, there is no greater will to overwrite that.
Angels are the same, they are rebuilt in Heaven.

5-Big question, since no one knows. Heaven and Hell are not meant for humans, so they go somewhere else...
Where? I'm not ready to give that answer yet.

Little typo here, I meant that Heaven and Hell pull spirits, not souls. Souls are what humans have, they are not conscious and are much smaller than spirits.

 

[Krayola1234]

Little typo here, I meant that Heaven and Hell pull spirits, not souls. Souls are what humans have, they are not conscious and are much smaller than spirits.

What would happen if a succubus (or possibly an angel) took a human soul and put it in their respective domains? (Heaven and hell)