RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[colascage]

It's so funny hearing someone say that zion doesn't take criticism and that he retreats to his discord where everyone labels people who criticize him as subhuman.

I said some not everyone but you all let it fly.

When Eden Crest came out I wrote a multi page critique of some of the major issues I had with the game. And...he read it, and fixed them.

Cant say much about Eden Crest since i barely played but from just lurking the f95zone thread it doesnt seem like anything was changed. Mind you that fixing bugs, spelling mistakes are not the point.

We've had legitimate debates over the lack of variance in chapter 4's scenes(with the vast majority of them more or less being the same scene with different writing) and he not only engaged with the criticism, but promised to be better. Like you're just wrong brother.

"Uh i dont like this scene can you make something different" isnt criticsm. The porn itself is like the least of its issues. This game is still riddled with atrocious pacing, forced lore dumping, bad gameplay, awful combat even among h-games. Nothing has changed aside from crafting mechanics which funnily enough adds just more bloat to the pacing.
I saw people getting banned, myself banned a while back (i was very polite mind you), for critizing it. I guess he doesnt ban people for mild stuff like suggesting new porn scenes. Good for you i guess.

 

[henrysab]

No one abandoned anything LMAO.

Anyone following me on the main pages know that I'm constantly updating them on the development.
I already asked for a status rectification to avoid confusing people.

For the fans, I'm really thankful for your patience.
I developed EC too fast and it caused me to burn out. And when I returned to SC, it was to finish chapter 5 which has a lot of teasers (including a lot of art) that will link to SC2 and Warlock Saga, so I needed to be extra careful with that too to connect the story right. Plus all the stress of having to relearn the game after such a long while without developing it.

A new chapter is very close and I appreciate all the support through the years. After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga, which all art is already done, and the art for chapter 1 will be updated as well with the new artist, so basically, 2 chapters in 1 art-wise.

I hope you all the best. Take care guys.

All We want is some honesty is all we want. If you said "Hey Guys, I need a personal break" im sure peoples reaction wouldn't be so outta pocket. But when you promise certain Chapter 5 releases multiple times and never deliever this is when people start getting upset. You still have a twitter post replying to multiple comments saying "Chapter 5 will be released in July". No ones gonna bite your head of if your just being honest. But brushing certain situations under the rug and just blantanlty lieing is frustrating.

Glad to see that we might see Chapter 5 maybe end of this year of beginning of the next year (though we have heard that one before). Just lieing to our faces get so tiring but I don't have the energy to discuss this and im sure you don't either.

Hope your passion reignites and you sit back on the throne of this game that you created beauitfully. As of now I'll believe chapter 5 when I see it.

Take it easy.

 

[Ir0n Ma1den]

I just hope to see a continuation of the series, there are positives and negatives like in every game, but overall I think the game moves into a right direction.

I dunno what happend to zion, I was out of the loop for at least half a year, since Eden crest came out( Which I liked, love the idea of sex robots and the pokemon like espact of that game, hope for a part 2 eventually.)

 

[KFC Pork]

No one abandoned anything LMAO.

Anyone following me on the main pages know that I'm constantly updating them on the development.
I already asked for a status rectification to avoid confusing people.

For the fans, I'm really thankful for your patience.
I developed EC too fast and it caused me to burn out. And when I returned to SC, it was to finish chapter 5 which has a lot of teasers (including a lot of art) that will link to SC2 and Warlock Saga, so I needed to be extra careful with that too to connect the story right. Plus all the stress of having to relearn the game after such a long while without developing it.

A new chapter is very close and I appreciate all the support through the years. After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga, which all art is already done, and the art for chapter 1 will be updated as well with the new artist, so basically, 2 chapters in 1 art-wise.

I hope you all the best. Take care guys.

Developed EC too fast? This scammer is crazy bros. He think he worked too hard and too fast.It is a fkn 1year for basic gameplay. So basic with basic combat, Maps with lots of random wandering bitches to prolong the gameplay time. No side-quests.No events.Is this basic gameplay system too hard for you?
So as always acting like RPG MV has same level like 3d. Which is why the rest are all lies as usual. Bros dont get tricked all lies as always.
So U gonna relearn warlock saga again? And u gonna take like more 6months for relearning process again? What are you J.K rolling?Writing harry potter level script?
Removing the deadline so that he can get as much money as he like is also a gold-digger move.
The quality of arts go down as kainout left. i'm sure kain arts are more expensive that why zion kick him out after making us addicted to SC. Same for animations
The quantity also go down as zion becomes a lazy developer. We only gonna get 6 succu for 1year now.
Lies lies lies

 

[Nabebebe]

Does this game include the others chapter? The only other thing that I found about succubus covenant in this site was chapter 1

 

[zackrin6]

Does this game include the others chapter? The only other thing that I found about succubus covenant in this site was chapter 1

It has uptill chapter 4 here

 

[zackrin6]

No one abandoned anything LMAO.

Anyone following me on the main pages know that I'm constantly updating them on the development.
I already asked for a status rectification to avoid confusing people.

For the fans, I'm really thankful for your patience.
I developed EC too fast and it caused me to burn out. And when I returned to SC, it was to finish chapter 5 which has a lot of teasers (including a lot of art) that will link to SC2 and Warlock Saga, so I needed to be extra careful with that too to connect the story right. Plus all the stress of having to relearn the game after such a long while without developing it.

A new chapter is very close and I appreciate all the support through the years. After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga, which all art is already done, and the art for chapter 1 will be updated as well with the new artist, so basically, 2 chapters in 1 art-wise.

I hope you all the best. Take care guys.

Zion iamma be real i really love this game a lot and warlock saga as well idk about eden didnt try that yet. But man can you for gods sake tells us properly when your gonna take a break and for long as well as for how long it will take to finish this game because i know that connecting some shit to your world lore and making sure it makes sense isnt an easy process by any means and requires a lot of hardwork but a lot of us have been waiting for a while. Espiscally the people that have been here from the start of the game

 

[Kybo]

Does this game include the others chapter? The only other thing that I found about succubus covenant in this site was chapter 1

Warlock saga Chapter 2.

 

[KFC Pork]

All We want is some honesty is all we want. If you said "Hey Guys, I need a personal break" im sure peoples reaction wouldn't be so outta pocket. But when you promise certain Chapter 5 releases multiple times and never deliever this is when people start getting upset. You still have a twitter post replying to multiple comments saying "Chapter 5 will be released in July". No ones gonna bite your head of if your just being honest. But brushing certain situations under the rug and just blantanlty lieing is frustrating.

Glad to see that we might see Chapter 5 maybe end of this year of beginning of the next year (though we have heard that one before). Just lieing to our faces get so tiring but I don't have the energy to discuss this and im sure you don't either.

Hope your passion reignites and you sit back on the throne of this game that you created beauitfully. As of now I'll believe chapter 5 when I see it.

Take it easy.

I dont think everyone will support money for a 3 4 months personal break time and that will make some supporters pause their monthly pay for those months.
That why zion dont chosse ur option.

Some patroners generously say ''i need a break so i gonna pause the support billing for this month.'' . See the differences? Literally opposite from zion.zion just want free money for lots of months. No matter what the situation is, zion always choose gold-digger option. With no deadline system he can do whatever he wants.
Pls cancel/boycott support

 

[SuccubusLover69]

I said some not everyone but you all let it fly.



Cant say much about Eden Crest since i barely played but from just lurking the f95zone thread it doesnt seem like anything was changed. Mind you that fixing bugs, spelling mistakes are not the point.



"Uh i dont like this scene can you make something different" isnt criticsm. The porn itself is like the least of its issues. This game is still riddled with atrocious pacing, forced lore dumping, bad gameplay, awful combat even among h-games. Nothing has changed aside from crafting mechanics which funnily enough adds just more bloat to the pacing.
I saw people getting banned, myself banned a while back (i was very polite mind you), for critizing it. I guess he doesnt ban people for mild stuff like suggesting new porn scenes. Good for you i guess.

Totally agree with what this guy says, especially regarding balance. SC was bad in terms of balance, EC was just unbearable. I highly doubt majority even played through the entire game.

We all know the reason he came back and replied was because of the abandoned tag. If you want to subscribe to patreon to some creator, there are better creators.
LAGS, Namako, Kredyn, Tinkerer, and the maker of ASWS etc.

Consider this one abandoned. Happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Frosthugger]

This is a serious suggestion, not an attack on Zion. Maybe he should just outsource all aspects of the game to subcontractors and only act as the manager and outline the direction of the game? He already does that for many aspects of the game. Then the burnout will not be an issue and the money he gets should easily be enough for that.

 

[BigLundi]

I said some not everyone but you all let it fly.



Cant say much about Eden Crest since i barely played but from just lurking the f95zone thread it doesnt seem like anything was changed. Mind you that fixing bugs, spelling mistakes are not the point.

Nah brother. It was a lot. I had pages worth of criticisms for the pacing of the game, the fact that the robots would start at level 1 regardless of where we got them, whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, bugs were included, but they were the least of my criticisms of the game. He changed a lot about the game before its official release in large part due to my criticisms of it to make it a lot easier to play, and a lot less of a grind. I just can't take the notion seriously that Zion retreats from criticism when I'm literally been a person to criticize him.

"Uh i dont like this scene can you make something different" isnt criticsm. The porn itself is like the least of its issues. This game is still riddled with atrocious pacing, forced lore dumping, bad gameplay, awful combat even among h-games. Nothing has changed aside from crafting mechanics which funnily enough adds just more bloat to the pacing.
I saw people getting banned, myself banned a while back (i was very polite mind you), for critizing it. I guess he doesnt ban people for mild stuff like suggesting new porn scenes. Good for you i guess.

Look, I don't know about your particular story and it sucks if you were banned for polite criticism. I just know it's not my experience. I can agree that the game could use a method of getting stronger that doesn't rely on beating the various succubi and equipping new runes to increase your stats. There should be a levelling mechanic, there should be more variety in enemies aside from just 'different colored plant demon' or at least a way to grind out the stat boosting foods instead of being limited to a hard cap. I've even been in DM's with Zion letting him know that some of his bloat is too much, and that he's ending up with a product that takes too long to make for not enough return, and never been banned. So I just don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Masked Fellow]

After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga.

Christ on a bicycle, Zion have you learned NOTHING from the discourse going on in your own game thread for the past couple of years? people don't care about the sidegames, your crown jewel and your claim to fame has been and continues to be Succubus Covenant, hell the fact that its thread remained alive when it got no updates for the longest time ever should be a testament to just how much people like it in comparison to warlock saga or eden crest.

Take my advice, outsource your sidegame development since you already do that much with the art, and FOCUS on succubus covenant for crying out loud.

 

[Succubus Hunter]

No one abandoned anything LMAO.

Anyone following me on the main pages know that I'm constantly updating them on the development.
I already asked for a status rectification to avoid confusing people.

For the fans, I'm really thankful for your patience.
I developed EC too fast and it caused me to burn out. And when I returned to SC, it was to finish chapter 5 which has a lot of teasers (including a lot of art) that will link to SC2 and Warlock Saga, so I needed to be extra careful with that too to connect the story right. Plus all the stress of having to relearn the game after such a long while without developing it.

A new chapter is very close and I appreciate all the support through the years. After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga, which all art is already done, and the art for chapter 1 will be updated as well with the new artist, so basically, 2 chapters in 1 art-wise.

I hope you all the best. Take care guys.

It's good to see you posting here after so long. I have never developed a game myself but I understand that it can be hard between the art and the coding. Not to mention you are making a story based game that you want to stand on it's own even outside it's h content. I hope you have a happy Thanksgiving and that time with friends and family will help you through your burnout.

 

[Xbob1]

To me this is just another classic case of a developer biting off more than they can chew. Warlock Saga is kinda meh and I don't really understand its desperate need for existence since Succubus Covenant is not finished and Eden Crest was uhhh...something that happened I guess..

I always assumed that if we were going to get multiple games, it would be a generation/era type of thing with the Succubus Covenant intro showing advanced humanity that it can basically tap into the past lives of people. So I thought we were going to get like games during like medieval, steampunk and modern era etc and not multiple side games in the same bronze age one.

I just don't understand why developers are so obsessed with making so many different games in as little time possible, ending up with unfinished or unsatisfying products and overall turning a fanbase on its creator for not properly working on the main product, we see this happen again and again on this forum.

I told myself that "I will wait for chapter 5 to review the game."
Man what a wait it has been..
By no means do I think Zion is a bad guy, but christ this developer trend is getting real old real fast.

 

[Lex3rd2]

No one abandoned anything LMAO.

Anyone following me on the main pages know that I'm constantly updating them on the development.
I already asked for a status rectification to avoid confusing people.

For the fans, I'm really thankful for your patience.
I developed EC too fast and it caused me to burn out. And when I returned to SC, it was to finish chapter 5 which has a lot of teasers (including a lot of art) that will link to SC2 and Warlock Saga, so I needed to be extra careful with that too to connect the story right. Plus all the stress of having to relearn the game after such a long while without developing it.

A new chapter is very close and I appreciate all the support through the years. After SC1, I'll go back to Warlock Saga, which all art is already done, and the art for chapter 1 will be updated as well with the new artist, so basically, 2 chapters in 1 art-wise.

I hope you all the best. Take care guys.

Honestly, after all the wait and the broken dates? Barely anyone will give you a benefit of the doubt - only very fanatical of fans will.
Along with all the crap that I read about the ordeal in the discord in the others comments, taking you seriously is a joke. I'm sure as hell I was not on day one back when the SC1 was first released, but I still was quite an old fan and I WANTED to believe. Sadly, no hope for you. If you want somehow rectify yourself in the eyes of others - try let people know that you are going on a long-term vacation for one reason or another...And stop being a dick and keep your fanatics on a leash (I talking about the BigLundi comment here)

P.S. I'm not gonna lie if I say that comment comes off as harsh, but being frustrated with the Dev and seeing a lot of projects on this site getting abandoned can really do that to man.

 

[colascage]

Honestly, after all the wait and the broken dates? Barely anyone will give you a benefit of the doubt - only very fanatical of fans will.
Along with all the crap that I read about the ordeal in the discord in the others comments, taking you seriously is a joke. I'm sure as hell I was not on day one back when the SC1 was first released, but I still was quite an old fan and I WANTED to believe. Sadly, no hope for you. If you want somehow rectify yourself in the eyes of others - try let people know that you are going on a long-term vacation for one reason or another...And stop being a dick and keep your fanatics on a leash (I talking about the BigLundi comment here)

P.S. I'm not gonna lie if I say that comment comes off as harsh, but being frustrated with the Dev and seeing a lot of projects on this site getting abandoned can really do that to man.

For clarity, Zion himself didnt insult but rather complained about the critics here. "Subhumans" was said by some of his discord members.

 

[BigLundi]

And stop being a dick and keep your fanatics on a leash (I talking about the BigLundi comment here)

Hold up. Why are you calling me out? Have I said anything even remotely rude? Also, Zion doesn't have any control over me, He's just the dev of a game I like, chill XD

 

[henrysab]

Hold up. Why are you calling me out? Have I said anything even remotely rude? Also, Zion doesn't have any control over me, He's just the dev of a game I like, chill XD

Your post history is defending zion like he pays you. No one cares you were the one lucky guy zion didn't instant ban or block for questioning certain things.

 

[BigLundi]

Your post history is defending zion like he pays you. No one cares you were the one lucky guy zion didn't instant ban or block for questioning certain things.

I literally only posted about it once what do you mean? XD

Ok so...lemme get this straight. Someone comes here to complain about recieving certain treatment, and makes accusations about a dev's character based on that. That's fine.

Someone comes on to point out that they've done the same thing, and hasn't recieved such treatment, and such accusations don't seem to hold merit...that person is a paid shill and should shut up because nobody cares the first guy's still totally right?

Is that the situation?