RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[Joe of the Alpha Legion]

maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant

 

[Yusha has fallen]

maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant

No, just knowing how easy is a rpg maker will make u know zion is a scammer.
RPG maker is an editor and so ez to use <<This is the Basic truth that every brain dead simps ignore and say "i love zion dk so much "

 

[DragonRare]

4 years for the most low effort shity i never seen before

 

[Joe of the Alpha Legion]

No, just knowing how easy is a rpg maker will make u know zion is a scammer.
RPG maker is an editor and so ez to use <<This is the Basic truth that every brain dead simps ignore and say "i love zion dk so much "

i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points

 

[Nabebebe]

i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points

I remember a lot of random books with a barrage of information instead of an actual design that allowed you to interact with the story more dinamically though. Also, Zion is making 21grand in brazilian currency, which is around 20x the minimum wage. Unless he has a gambling addiction he can live pretty comfortably with that amount

 

[SuccubusLover69]

i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points

Be real, how many days would it take to build ALL the game areas including the literred plant enemies in chapter 5.
Dialog ? How much dialog is there compared to Chapter 1,2,3 ? One of the succubus, all she says is ... lol.
This chapter 5 didnt introduce any new music, assets, or mechanics. Its just move from point 1 to point 2, destroy enemy, battle done.

Even if making such a game is incredibly hard work, you do not take into account the experience a dev earns working on previous chapters. By all accounts, chapter 5 should have been delivered faster than the others.!

 

[phoenixofdark]

Does someone have a save to the new content please?

 

[Joe of the Alpha Legion]

I remember a lot of random books with a barrage of information instead of an actual design that allowed you to interact with the story more dinamically though. Also, Zion is making 21grand in brazilian currency, which is around 20x the minimum wage. Unless he has a gambling addiction he can live pretty comfortably with that amount

15grand after income tax, plus other possible taxes such as IPTU (real estate tax) and IPVA (vehicle tax) and he could be only earning half of that (on top of Patreon fees). we also don't know where Zion lives and what his cost of living is, so its not honest to just look at what he earns and say he is a-okay

this is also his first project, or at least major project, so he's still learning the ropes, again he is one guy trying to make a story that is the begining of a saga that will span various games, this is only generation one after all

 

[Joe of the Alpha Legion]

Be real, how many days would it take to build ALL the game areas including the literred plant enemies in chapter 5.
Dialog ? How much dialog is there compared to Chapter 1,2,3 ? One of the succubus, all she says is ... lol.
This chapter 5 didnt introduce any new music, assets, or mechanics. Its just move from point 1 to point 2, destroy enemy, battle done.

Even if making such a game is incredibly hard work, you do not take into account the experience a dev earns working on previous chapters. By all accounts, chapter 5 should have been delivered faster than the others.!

he spent one year working on Eden Crest, full time. There is PLENTY of dialogue in chapter 5, all of it progressing the story forward. i won't spoil but if things keep going the way they're going the prothers WILL enter conflict with each other. even if making this game is easy, we don't know how much time he can spend on the game, so let's at least wait until he can give a proper response

 

[Antonichu19]

How can i start the chapter 5 in my chapter 4 save file. Or i need to start a new save?

 

[BaamAlex]

we also don't know where Zion lives

Brazil.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

How can i start the chapter 5 in my chapter 4 save file. Or i need to start a new save?

Unless you get an error message you only have to go back to the Hammerfall tribe and speak with Tallius again so you can reach the hanging gardens.

 

[The_Archivist]

maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant

I personally don't think he's trying, per se, considering how long it took for the incomplete chapter 5 to come out. Also, I don't exactly lurk in this thread so I dunno how much is true myself, but there's the constant talk that Zion doesn't take any criticism to heart, so hey, that might not work. Others likely know more about the criticism stuff than I do but that's something I see a lot in posts here. I also won't say RPGMaker is a breeze to use, but my dude, it shouldn't have taken this long for this to get done, and I also don't think Eden Crest should've taken a year either.

One thing I will say for sure, on that subject, is something others have as well: Zion spends too much time NOT focusing on Succubus Covenant, the thing he started initially and the thing that he swore was his passion. He spends too much time focusing on other things, whether it's side stories, or the Eden Crest game.

And you want to talk finances. I checked his Patreon just now.

• 2,592 members
• 235 posts
• $4,457/month

He gets this when he's not even the one making the art, and he's using RPGMaker to make the game, all on his own. You can argue taxes, artist commissions, etc, but he is effectively handed more money a month than I would say the average hard working family makes. Do I commend him for finding such an easy way to get by? Yes, absolutely. I also call it like it is. Dude looks to me like he's scammin'. This isn't the first time I've seen a hentai game be in development for years while someone still gets monthly donations from people who still hold faith in them. It won't be the last. I don't want his head on a pike for it, but I'll still call it like it is.

 

[Mister vudu]

Yeah, wait 2 years for this was a shit.Zion have luck than a mount of people are licking her ass just for be a scammer and justifying a mediocre game saying that " If you think that the game is bad then, Do It yUo".

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Brazil.

Sudden the proportions ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL make sense......and I'm all for it...

 

[Calamity James]

maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant

His patreon gets 22k in brazilian currency(not counting patreon fee) aside from some expenses he might have with comissions, i highly doubt he is having a hard time making ends meet at this moment, i could be wrong, but i doubt it

 

[nikolais]

How can I unlock the ch 3 and 4 gallery? im in the chapter 5 and i have no gallery from the ch 3 n 4

 

[The_Archivist]

By the by, here's something from just today in his server:



I think the thing I like the most is how he says "due to the sheer size of it" then proceeds to list off the very small amount of content the Chapter 5 update will have. That and how the burnout is gone and he's looking forward to start something new. Guess we'll see what the next chapter of the magnum opus will be like over the next several years.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

3 questions:

A. Was it already mentioned if the Love Interests will be Harem potential or not? (i.e Lola + someone else)

B. With Chapter 5's release did the old artstyle come back? Because I'm pretty sure Eden's Crest has the old artstyle in it unless the art was made prior the the release during the break. I'm still fine with the new Artstyle just curious.

C. What the fuck is wrong with the Unofficial Android Port? Why is it that during the prologue I can NEVER get past the fucking Relic Ceremony due to a GIANT GAME BREAKING LAG BURST only AFTER the MC receives their Relics?

 

[BaamAlex]

With Chapter 5's release did the old artstyle come back? Because I'm pretty sure Eden's Crest has the old artstyle in it unless the art was made prior the the release during the break. I'm still fine with the new Artstyle just curious.

The old art style is still in the game. It's from kainkout. But afaik there will be no more succubi from him because Zion looked for other artists.

See you 2030 for the tribe update xD