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As much as I loved this game the first time I played, like 2-3 years ago, it was even the that introduced me to porn games... I also know that pretty much half of it is just random cutaways to some other random people on the other side of the planet or in another dimension or in the succubus base or wherever. Its just a pain in the ass, a waste of time. Horrible, in other words. I didn't enjoy it, I hated it, and wanted to be done with the waste of time as soon as I could so I could actually get back to the actual game, instead if playing 'exposition simulator.exe'.

And now people are saying that this isn't even the entirety of chapter 5 released yet??? I don't know if I would have replayed all that pain in the ass lore and backstory I don't care about just to get to the last chapter and be done with if it was the actual, whole chapter, because I am playing this game to look at boobs, not to get lore dumped.

But its just the first half of chapter 5? No way man, I'm not even gonna bother downloading this, I know it'll be a complete waste of time that I can't afford and that I don't want. It will be horrible, not because it will be sad or anything, but cause I will be bored out of my fucking mind for most of it.
Its not the first half of chapter 5. there will be no new content, the story has concluded. What he can add is update the gallery room. thats it. I highly highly doubt he is gonna introduce sex scenes with the 4 companions. Remember they were drawn by zion, no proofs that the new artists are gonna draw them again.
 

Arakart

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There is a buged succubus in a bar in chapter 4 that loops with paralyze temptation poison for 3 turns and never lets you take action,anyone has the same problem?
 
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Kyunbix

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So we waited years for this?
Yeah I liked the first 2 chapters, later on the game was downgrade only... I understand the artist change, but I feel it even somehow got downgraded in lore and story too. Gameplay was always bad, maps gone from fine to bad but meh it doesn't matter in the h-games much.
Welp thank you for this game Zion, never playing any of your games again ❤
Go for the Visual novel next time like some of the people here suggested ^^
 
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maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant
 
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maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant
No, just knowing how easy is a rpg maker will make u know zion is a scammer.
RPG maker is an editor and so ez to use <<This is the Basic truth that every brain dead simps ignore and say "i love zion dk so much "
 
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No, just knowing how easy is a rpg maker will make u know zion is a scammer.
RPG maker is an editor and so ez to use <<This is the Basic truth that every brain dead simps ignore and say "i love zion dk so much "
i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points
 

Nabebebe

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i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points
I remember a lot of random books with a barrage of information instead of an actual design that allowed you to interact with the story more dinamically though. Also, Zion is making 21grand in brazilian currency, which is around 20x the minimum wage. Unless he has a gambling addiction he can live pretty comfortably with that amount
 
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i can't believe i'm gonna have to say this, but making a game involves more then just using a game engine. that's like saying writing a book is easy because typing/wtriting is easy

you also didn't adress my other points
Be real, how many days would it take to build ALL the game areas including the literred plant enemies in chapter 5.
Dialog ? How much dialog is there compared to Chapter 1,2,3 ? One of the succubus, all she says is ... lol.
This chapter 5 didnt introduce any new music, assets, or mechanics. Its just move from point 1 to point 2, destroy enemy, battle done.

Even if making such a game is incredibly hard work, you do not take into account the experience a dev earns working on previous chapters. By all accounts, chapter 5 should have been delivered faster than the others.!
 
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I remember a lot of random books with a barrage of information instead of an actual design that allowed you to interact with the story more dinamically though. Also, Zion is making 21grand in brazilian currency, which is around 20x the minimum wage. Unless he has a gambling addiction he can live pretty comfortably with that amount
15grand after income tax, plus other possible taxes such as IPTU (real estate tax) and IPVA (vehicle tax) and he could be only earning half of that (on top of Patreon fees). we also don't know where Zion lives and what his cost of living is, so its not honest to just look at what he earns and say he is a-okay

this is also his first project, or at least major project, so he's still learning the ropes, again he is one guy trying to make a story that is the begining of a saga that will span various games, this is only generation one after all
 
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Be real, how many days would it take to build ALL the game areas including the literred plant enemies in chapter 5.
Dialog ? How much dialog is there compared to Chapter 1,2,3 ? One of the succubus, all she says is ... lol.
This chapter 5 didnt introduce any new music, assets, or mechanics. Its just move from point 1 to point 2, destroy enemy, battle done.

Even if making such a game is incredibly hard work, you do not take into account the experience a dev earns working on previous chapters. By all accounts, chapter 5 should have been delivered faster than the others.!
he spent one year working on Eden Crest, full time. There is PLENTY of dialogue in chapter 5, all of it progressing the story forward. i won't spoil but if things keep going the way they're going the prothers WILL enter conflict with each other. even if making this game is easy, we don't know how much time he can spend on the game, so let's at least wait until he can give a proper response
 

Porn_Jesus

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How can i start the chapter 5 in my chapter 4 save file. Or i need to start a new save?
Unless you get an error message you only have to go back to the Hammerfall tribe and speak with Tallius again so you can reach the hanging gardens.
 

The_Archivist

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maybe we should make a list of things we don't like in the game so Zion can know how to improve in the next games

we should also remember that Zion is ONE GUY trying to deliver chapters every 3-4 months, and we don't know what is going on in his personal life. being brazillian myself i know how hard it can be to make ends meet in this shit hole of a country, especially in the current governmant
I personally don't think he's trying, per se, considering how long it took for the incomplete chapter 5 to come out. Also, I don't exactly lurk in this thread so I dunno how much is true myself, but there's the constant talk that Zion doesn't take any criticism to heart, so hey, that might not work. Others likely know more about the criticism stuff than I do but that's something I see a lot in posts here. I also won't say RPGMaker is a breeze to use, but my dude, it shouldn't have taken this long for this to get done, and I also don't think Eden Crest should've taken a year either.

One thing I will say for sure, on that subject, is something others have as well: Zion spends too much time NOT focusing on Succubus Covenant, the thing he started initially and the thing that he swore was his passion. He spends too much time focusing on other things, whether it's side stories, or the Eden Crest game.

And you want to talk finances. I checked his Patreon just now.

  • 2,592 members
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He gets this when he's not even the one making the art, and he's using RPGMaker to make the game, all on his own. You can argue taxes, artist commissions, etc, but he is effectively handed more money a month than I would say the average hard working family makes. Do I commend him for finding such an easy way to get by? Yes, absolutely. I also call it like it is. Dude looks to me like he's scammin'. This isn't the first time I've seen a hentai game be in development for years while someone still gets monthly donations from people who still hold faith in them. It won't be the last. I don't want his head on a pike for it, but I'll still call it like it is.
 
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