RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[7ses]

I first came across this game years ago, shortly after the first chapter was completed. I thought it was awesome.

Since then, it has aged exceptionally poorly, and Zion has done nothing to modernise it. The game engine and style creates a tedious and unrewarding gameplay experience and the most important aspect, the succubi, have gone backwards.

The art is now far worse than before, the succubi have fewer scenes and the animations were removed. There are reasons as to why each of these things has happened, but seemingly no tangible effort to fix or provide new alternatives to amp up the quality of the game.

Had this series been handled properly it probably could have been making double or triple its Patreon donations every month.

Overall this journey, since the end of Chapter 2 has been a massive disappointment. Zion comes across as a nice guy but this series would be best off being sold to someone else, or at least managed by someone else.

 

[Invisible Demon]

I believe the gallery and the heroine scenes are going to be in the very last patch for the game, which is the next one. Zion posted that some way back in this thread aftter chapter 5 dropped.

As for the 2 years, we got Eden's Crest during the delay, which is an entire additional game.

I can't believe I'm seeing so many people complain about a femdom game actually finishing for once.

There are, in fact, plenty of femdom games that finish. The original Monster Girl Quest trilogy, to name one famous example. The original SHRIFT too. It's a big market, it's not like we're starved of options here.

 

[MsiSucks1]

So how do I update my game without losing progress? My ch 4 version is complete.

 

[WinKid]

So how do I update my game without losing progress? My ch 4 version is complete.

Just copy the save in ch 4 to ch 5.

 

[Nait Sieve]

The first game's story, perhaps. But your decisions will carry over to the next one.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure that we woud require an actual save file to carry over anything substancial at all.
and we can't save our progress at the very end, instead simply getting thrown back to the main menu.
i guess making the next game start with a couple questions like "what happened to the witch?" or "did you lead the army or interact with the incubus instead?" woud work as well (also required for new players), but carrying over our file woud feel way more satisying.

 

[Geokox]

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Oh...does a little pussy feel offended because someone criticizes your "work"?

Let me tell you something Zion of Olympus , you're a scammer. And your actions show that you are not capable of criticism at all. Why do you block people on twitter or on your discord? Are you afraid that your last brain-dead supporters will jump ship so that you don't get any more money? Boo hoo...if you want to avoid this in the future, then provide the content that people deserve. And don't keep teasing things but nothing comes from your side. It's just a fact that chapter 5 isn't worth the two-year wait. Neither the quality nor the content is satisfying enough to justify those two years. And where is your high-quality dialog, please? Or animations? Or your very complex maps? All of it is missing. I don't know what kind of people you know who claim to be your "game testers", but apparently they seem to be thoroughly retarded as well. In the last section of the game alone I discovered out of bounds glitches, or spelling mistakes. Cutscenes are still static images. Your "complex" maps are boring and offer no exploration whatsoever. No treasures, nothing at all. The artists simply don't deserve a load of garbage software like yours. Shame on you. To all patreon supporters who still exist, use your common sense and stop giving this scumbag your money. And please, don't recommend this game to others. Zion of Olympus should be banned from patreon. A few pages earlier, a user showed how easy it would be to animate something (even if it's just wobbling with the mouse). I would rather support this guy on patreon than you. And his work didn't even take a day. And all of you who are now claiming that good game development takes years, listen to me. He uses an editor. None of what he does is developed from scratch. Real games are not created with rpg makers either. That's a huge difference.

EDIT: I mean, look at this or this. 5 minutes on a cheap android phone. Nuff said.

How bad is your current life going at the moment to post such a useless and hatefull comment? And how entitled do you have to be, to believe that someone owns you anything for the fact that you are posting on a site with pirated games? No wonder he blocked you, everyone should, you are the most toxic leecher i've ever seen.

I don't enjoy the state that the game has reached, but that doesn't mean I would just hate on the creator without giving any bit of usefull comment. My god you must be sad.

I like how someone pointed out that the lore is sometimes too much and the small battles are a lot and kind of pointless, I totally agree these could be huge improvements.

And I've seen some other good reviews on this forum, but if I were in Zion's place I wouldn't bother reading anything from here because of some sad kids with nothing going for them.

 

[LEWDpyon]

I find it weird that people want animations for this game despite the animation from previous chapters not being that great? Like it was Done with the most generic tweening combined with the good but lifeless art, and extremely verbose writing leading to the most boring H scenes known to man. Like I didn't like SC1 before it became easier to hate the game but I really don't know what you guys are expecting in that department.

It's weird that I have to defend Zion but it feels like some of you are letting the hype train get to you

 

[Joe of the Alpha Legion]

any idea when the next part of the chapter comes out?

 

[Lex3rd2]

I been with this game since the very first chapter so let me have insert a penny of mine here.
Thing is - absolutely all of the criticism in his address along with some amount of accusations are more or less earned.

The plans may have derailed since the 2nd chapter (when it started to become clear that all the planned things are NO LONGER POSSIBLE), but it doesn't mean that Zion is clear of all the faults that brought the Quality Cliff Drop in the first place. He, at least, should have warned everyone that some promises that he made might have been not possible and drop some of these ideas so it would not seem like a scam. The whole fact that he blocked the guy might mean that the situation with criticism might be deteriorating - Discord seems like nothing short of an echo chamber filled with The Yes Men (I barely seen any critical word in there - suggestions channel not considered).
Can you truly blame everyone who might feel betrayed in the first place? I also feel kind of betrayed and understand that feeling, so every critical word that Zion hears might be taken in consideration (if it is of course not filled with only swearings that doesn't help make the game somehow better). Although I have very little believe in Zion not ignoring criticism.

It's feels like Zion is more concerned about the story rather than gameplay, which to a PORN GAME might be a secondary. Sacrificing gameplay and game mechanics for the sake of story doesn't exactly make a good combination, and it doesn't seem to work as smoothly here.

Of course my opinion. Consider whatever you take it in consideration or not up to you. Let's hope that Zion doesn't make a DreamWorld out of this game (when it will be finished hell knows when).

Criticism is not a crime

 

[SuccubusLover69]

My issue with that is it took a lot of time, only to come out incomplete, just how it was said, i hope Zion improves on the second game, i used to like this series a lot back then, but after some time i really lost interest on the series, unfortunately one of the issues i have comes from Kainkout departure, since none of the artists involved in the game couldn't even come close to match his quality in my opinion, i just hope he focuses less on cutscenes and brings more h-content with more diversity, since almost succubus at chapter 5 seemed to have the same personality, except for Spring

kainkout still makes nsfw art. you can check his deviantart. if interested.

 

[Calamity James]

kainkout still makes nsfw art. you can check his deviantart. if interested.

I follow him on twitter, but he is shadowbanned probably, since he doesn't show up on my timeline

 

[salty1]

Is there anyway to still see iole sex scenes if i tweak with the folders ?

 

[salty1]

also how do i get all mysterious stones fragments, i already have 4 of them but one is missing

 

[BaamAlex]

How bad is your current life going at the moment to post such a useless and hatefull comment? And how entitled do you have to be, to believe that someone owns you anything for the fact that you are posting on a site with pirated games? No wonder he blocked you, everyone should, you are the most toxic leecher i've ever seen.

I don't enjoy the state that the game has reached, but that doesn't mean I would just hate on the creator without giving any bit of usefull comment. My god you must be sad.

I like how someone pointed out that the lore is sometimes too much and the small battles are a lot and kind of pointless, I totally agree these could be huge improvements.

And I've seen some other good reviews on this forum, but if I were in Zion's place I wouldn't bother reading anything from here because of some sad kids with nothing going for them.

You have definitely missed the point of my statement. Get lost, you troll.

 

[The_Archivist]

kainkout still makes nsfw art. you can check his deviantart. if interested.

Well that's funny. That was the entire reason Zion gave for Kain no longer making art for SC and Eden Crest being his last commissioned job from Zion.

 

[Zvectar]

I been with this game since the very first chapter so let me have insert a penny of mine here.
Thing is - absolutely all of the criticism in his address along with some amount of accusations are more or less earned.

The plans may have derailed since the 2nd chapter (when it started to become clear that all the planned things are NO LONGER POSSIBLE), but it doesn't mean that Zion is clear of all the faults that brought the Quality Cliff Drop in the first place. He, at least, should have warned everyone that some promises that he made might have been not possible and drop some of these ideas so it would not seem like a scam. The whole fact that he blocked the guy might mean that the situation with criticism might be deteriorating - Discord seems like nothing short of an echo chamber filled with The Yes Men (I barely seen any critical word in there - suggestions channel not considered).
Can you truly blame everyone who might feel betrayed in the first place? I also feel kind of betrayed and understand that feeling, so every critical word that Zion hears might be taken in consideration (if it is of course not filled with only swearings that doesn't help make the game somehow better). Although I have very little believe in Zion not ignoring criticism.

It's feels like Zion is more concerned about the story rather than gameplay, which to a PORN GAME might be a secondary. Sacrificing gameplay and game mechanics for the sake of story doesn't exactly make a good combination, and it doesn't seem to work as smoothly here.

Of course my opinion. Consider whatever you take it in consideration or not up to you. Let's hope that Zion doesn't make a DreamWorld out of this game (when it will be finished hell knows when).

Criticism is not a crime

I don't think that he "focused" on the story while sacrificing the gameplay. It doesnt actually take years to write a story --- it does if there's gameplay and visual effects associated to it.

Also, when his artist was injured, he could have worked on the gameplay. from 9am to 5pm it takes roughly one day (and im kind) for a map like his, with the experience he gained, with the assets of rpg maker and ofc, what did he make out of this ? He recycled his maps several times with the same monster plants

If we were to compare the first maps he made for the game, then yes. I would be fine with him spending 1-2-3 weeks just for the snow castle-ish map. But the quality isnt the same and doesnt justify such delay. Side projects like warlocks? They are great. But imagine, he's only at it's first chapter and there will be probably far more side project to make in the next game for the selene states

And he doesn't have any blender/unity/model to make.. In comparison, under the which is also far from being finished but we can see a real progress and a real motivation in the updates. I wonder if zion is actually happy about his release.

I'm also asking myself if it will take 4 - 6 others months to make the Chapter 5 v2 for us to get a gallery and a base update シ

Let's face it. Zion has talent, but got lazy.

 

[Nabebebe]

Does anyone know if the game will cover all of that eras and how the clans of succubus got defeated in each era? I already feel as if just one of the clans was way too much investment.

 

[Chronim]

Does anyone know if the game will cover all of that eras and how the clans of succubus got defeated in each era? I already feel as if just one of the clans was way too much investment.

The answer is no and no.

 

[Yusha has fallen]

Well that's funny. That was the entire reason Zion gave for Kain no longer making art for SC and Eden Crest being his last commissioned job from Zion.

Kain realized zion is a scammer in disguise before zion even shows his truth scammer instincts like today.
Zion is lying us all along.

 

[DamnianAnt12345123]

As much as I loved this game the first time I played, like 2-3 years ago, it was even the that introduced me to porn games... I also know that pretty much half of it is just random cutaways to some other random people on the other side of the planet or in another dimension or in the succubus base or wherever. Its just a pain in the ass, a waste of time. Horrible, in other words. I didn't enjoy it, I hated it, and wanted to be done with the waste of time as soon as I could so I could actually get back to the actual game, instead if playing 'exposition simulator.exe'.

And now people are saying that this isn't even the entirety of chapter 5 released yet??? I don't know if I would have replayed all that pain in the ass lore and backstory I don't care about just to get to the last chapter and be done with if it was the actual, whole chapter, because I am playing this game to look at boobs, not to get lore dumped.

But its just the first half of chapter 5? No way man, I'm not even gonna bother downloading this, I know it'll be a complete waste of time that I can't afford and that I don't want. It will be horrible, not because it will be sad or anything, but cause I will be bored out of my fucking mind for most of it.