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LEWDpyon

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I find it weird that people want animations for this game despite the animation from previous chapters not being that great? Like it was Done with the most generic tweening combined with the good but lifeless art, and extremely verbose writing leading to the most boring H scenes known to man. Like I didn't like SC1 before it became easier to hate the game but I really don't know what you guys are expecting in that department.

It's weird that I have to defend Zion but it feels like some of you are letting the hype train get to you
 
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Lex3rd2

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I been with this game since the very first chapter so let me have insert a penny of mine here.
Thing is - absolutely all of the criticism in his address along with some amount of accusations are more or less earned.
Facepalm picard star trek meme.

The plans may have derailed since the 2nd chapter (when it started to become clear that all the planned things are NO LONGER POSSIBLE), but it doesn't mean that Zion is clear of all the faults that brought the Quality Cliff Drop in the first place. He, at least, should have warned everyone that some promises that he made might have been not possible and drop some of these ideas so it would not seem like a scam. The whole fact that he blocked the guy might mean that the situation with criticism might be deteriorating - Discord seems like nothing short of an echo chamber filled with The Yes Men (I barely seen any critical word in there - suggestions channel not considered).
Can you truly blame everyone who might feel betrayed in the first place? I also feel kind of betrayed and understand that feeling, so every critical word that Zion hears might be taken in consideration (if it is of course not filled with only swearings that doesn't help make the game somehow better). Although I have very little believe in Zion not ignoring criticism.

It's feels like Zion is more concerned about the story rather than gameplay, which to a PORN GAME might be a secondary. Sacrificing gameplay and game mechanics for the sake of story doesn't exactly make a good combination, and it doesn't seem to work as smoothly here.

Of course my opinion. Consider whatever you take it in consideration or not up to you. Let's hope that Zion doesn't make a DreamWorld out of this game (when it will be finished hell knows when).

Criticism is not a crime
 
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My issue with that is it took a lot of time, only to come out incomplete, just how it was said, i hope Zion improves on the second game, i used to like this series a lot back then, but after some time i really lost interest on the series, unfortunately one of the issues i have comes from Kainkout departure, since none of the artists involved in the game couldn't even come close to match his quality in my opinion, i just hope he focuses less on cutscenes and brings more h-content with more diversity, since almost succubus at chapter 5 seemed to have the same personality, except for Spring
kainkout still makes nsfw art. you can check his deviantart. if interested.
 

BaamAlex

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Apr 15, 2022
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How bad is your current life going at the moment to post such a useless and hatefull comment? And how entitled do you have to be, to believe that someone owns you anything for the fact that you are posting on a site with pirated games? No wonder he blocked you, everyone should, you are the most toxic leecher i've ever seen.

I don't enjoy the state that the game has reached, but that doesn't mean I would just hate on the creator without giving any bit of usefull comment. My god you must be sad.

I like how someone pointed out that the lore is sometimes too much and the small battles are a lot and kind of pointless, I totally agree these could be huge improvements.

And I've seen some other good reviews on this forum, but if I were in Zion's place I wouldn't bother reading anything from here because of some sad kids with nothing going for them.
You have definitely missed the point of my statement. Get lost, you troll.
 
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Zvectar

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I been with this game since the very first chapter so let me have insert a penny of mine here.
Thing is - absolutely all of the criticism in his address along with some amount of accusations are more or less earned.
Facepalm picard star trek meme.

The plans may have derailed since the 2nd chapter (when it started to become clear that all the planned things are NO LONGER POSSIBLE), but it doesn't mean that Zion is clear of all the faults that brought the Quality Cliff Drop in the first place. He, at least, should have warned everyone that some promises that he made might have been not possible and drop some of these ideas so it would not seem like a scam. The whole fact that he blocked the guy might mean that the situation with criticism might be deteriorating - Discord seems like nothing short of an echo chamber filled with The Yes Men (I barely seen any critical word in there - suggestions channel not considered).
Can you truly blame everyone who might feel betrayed in the first place? I also feel kind of betrayed and understand that feeling, so every critical word that Zion hears might be taken in consideration (if it is of course not filled with only swearings that doesn't help make the game somehow better). Although I have very little believe in Zion not ignoring criticism.

It's feels like Zion is more concerned about the story rather than gameplay, which to a PORN GAME might be a secondary. Sacrificing gameplay and game mechanics for the sake of story doesn't exactly make a good combination, and it doesn't seem to work as smoothly here.

Of course my opinion. Consider whatever you take it in consideration or not up to you. Let's hope that Zion doesn't make a DreamWorld out of this game (when it will be finished hell knows when).

Criticism is not a crime
I don't think that he "focused" on the story while sacrificing the gameplay. It doesnt actually take years to write a story --- it does if there's gameplay and visual effects associated to it.

Also, when his artist was injured, he could have worked on the gameplay. from 9am to 5pm it takes roughly one day (and im kind) for a map like his, with the experience he gained, with the assets of rpg maker and ofc, what did he make out of this ? He recycled his maps several times with the same monster plants :D

If we were to compare the first maps he made for the game, then yes. I would be fine with him spending 1-2-3 weeks just for the snow castle-ish map. But the quality isnt the same and doesnt justify such delay. Side projects like warlocks? They are great. But imagine, he's only at it's first chapter and there will be probably far more side project to make in the next game for the selene states :)

And he doesn't have any blender/unity/model to make.. In comparison, under the which is also far from being finished but we can see a real progress and a real motivation in the updates. I wonder if zion is actually happy about his release.

I'm also asking myself if it will take 4 - 6 others months to make the Chapter 5 v2 for us to get a gallery and a base update シ

Let's face it. Zion has talent, but got lazy.
 
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Nabebebe

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Does anyone know if the game will cover all of that eras and how the clans of succubus got defeated in each era? I already feel as if just one of the clans was way too much investment.
 
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As much as I loved this game the first time I played, like 2-3 years ago, it was even the that introduced me to porn games... I also know that pretty much half of it is just random cutaways to some other random people on the other side of the planet or in another dimension or in the succubus base or wherever. Its just a pain in the ass, a waste of time. Horrible, in other words. I didn't enjoy it, I hated it, and wanted to be done with the waste of time as soon as I could so I could actually get back to the actual game, instead if playing 'exposition simulator.exe'.

And now people are saying that this isn't even the entirety of chapter 5 released yet??? I don't know if I would have replayed all that pain in the ass lore and backstory I don't care about just to get to the last chapter and be done with if it was the actual, whole chapter, because I am playing this game to look at boobs, not to get lore dumped.

But its just the first half of chapter 5? No way man, I'm not even gonna bother downloading this, I know it'll be a complete waste of time that I can't afford and that I don't want. It will be horrible, not because it will be sad or anything, but cause I will be bored out of my fucking mind for most of it.
 
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As much as I loved this game the first time I played, like 2-3 years ago, it was even the that introduced me to porn games... I also know that pretty much half of it is just random cutaways to some other random people on the other side of the planet or in another dimension or in the succubus base or wherever. Its just a pain in the ass, a waste of time. Horrible, in other words. I didn't enjoy it, I hated it, and wanted to be done with the waste of time as soon as I could so I could actually get back to the actual game, instead if playing 'exposition simulator.exe'.

And now people are saying that this isn't even the entirety of chapter 5 released yet??? I don't know if I would have replayed all that pain in the ass lore and backstory I don't care about just to get to the last chapter and be done with if it was the actual, whole chapter, because I am playing this game to look at boobs, not to get lore dumped.

But its just the first half of chapter 5? No way man, I'm not even gonna bother downloading this, I know it'll be a complete waste of time that I can't afford and that I don't want. It will be horrible, not because it will be sad or anything, but cause I will be bored out of my fucking mind for most of it.
Its not the first half of chapter 5. there will be no new content, the story has concluded. What he can add is update the gallery room. thats it. I highly highly doubt he is gonna introduce sex scenes with the 4 companions. Remember they were drawn by zion, no proofs that the new artists are gonna draw them again.
 

Arakart

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Sep 17, 2022
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There is a buged succubus in a bar in chapter 4 that loops with paralyze temptation poison for 3 turns and never lets you take action,anyone has the same problem?
 
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Kyunbix

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Mar 24, 2018
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So we waited years for this?
Yeah I liked the first 2 chapters, later on the game was downgrade only... I understand the artist change, but I feel it even somehow got downgraded in lore and story too. Gameplay was always bad, maps gone from fine to bad but meh it doesn't matter in the h-games much.
Welp thank you for this game Zion, never playing any of your games again ❤
Go for the Visual novel next time like some of the people here suggested ^^
 
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