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bono321

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Apr 9, 2020
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Losing to Summer cracked me up.

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Like, I would think this intended but considering the effort that went into the update I'm not sure anymore. Maybe it's a placeholder and Zion decided to throw in a line how she doesn't even talk to the MC and called it a day?

Anyway, my overall opinion of the update:
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KFC Pork

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Aug 7, 2023
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Losing to Summer cracked me up.

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Like, I would think this intended but considering the effort that went into the update I'm not sure anymore. Maybe it's a placeholder and Zion decided to throw in a line how she doesn't even talk to the MC and called it a day?

Anyway, my overall opinion of the update:
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Zion really really added too much efforts with that one hahahaha.
We should really stop supporting this scammer. Also report his alt and his dk sckers accounts
 

danwind24

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Jun 25, 2019
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So . . . How Many days we need to wait for the abandoned Tag again??, maybe it can help US to get new chapters sooner kekw
 

The_Archivist

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Jan 9, 2019
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he showed a lot more of them on the patreon than the 6 that are in the game
Yeah, that's what someone told me. Someone in his server I think? Told me that he had a bunch of new ones that either were or weren't on his Patreon, but were to be kept hush hush. Way more than we have here. And to add to that, I would like to say, how is what he's doing not a form of typical minimum effort scam that a lot of "hentai game devs" pull? Every update, every single update he's made has just been revealing a new succubus like the four seasons, duchess, Shiki's, etc, all behind the Patreon paywall. I only know of what's been posted on Kemono because I don't pay for porn to begin with, I'm absolutely not shelling out a monthly fee just to get fed crumbs as the artists finish their job.

You know what's interesting to me? There's this up and coming succubus game called Situation Succ. They have a server. I'm in that one too. And guess what? While some of their art updates are paywalled, some aren't, and they semi frequently(once a week maybe by this point if not just about)show off new general updates like certain dialogues finished, certain interactions with the MC and the titular succubus characters finished, the music, the spriting and sprite animations, etc, etc.

They're relatively new, and they're putting in way more effort right now and showing their work for it than I've seen from Zion. Meanwhile, he kept every new reveal behind the paywall.
 

Dreamer44

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after coming back to this game after a very long time, and after having catched up by now, i can't help but wonder:
is this game complete now? i mean, there is no save option after chapter 5.
No, chapter 5 is coming out in two parts. This is the first, which covers the final fight with the Duchess, reveals a lot of thing lore and story related, and shows us what's coming in the next game.

The second part will cover the new and complete gallery, the further development of the PC's village and the sex with the Love Interests.
 
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Dreamer44

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Yeah, that's what someone told me. Someone in his server I think? Told me that he had a bunch of new ones that either were or weren't on his Patreon, but were to be kept hush hush. Way more than we have here. And to add to that, I would like to say, how is what he's doing not a form of typical minimum effort scam that a lot of "hentai game devs" pull? Every update, every single update he's made has just been revealing a new succubus like the four seasons, duchess, Shiki's, etc, all behind the Patreon paywall. I only know of what's been posted on Kemono because I don't pay for porn to begin with, I'm absolutely not shelling out a monthly fee just to get fed crumbs as the artists finish their job.

You know what's interesting to me? There's this up and coming succubus game called Situation Succ. They have a server. I'm in that one too. And guess what? While some of their art updates are paywalled, some aren't, and they semi frequently(once a week maybe by this point if not just about)show off new general updates like certain dialogues finished, certain interactions with the MC and the titular succubus characters finished, the music, the spriting and sprite animations, etc, etc.

They're relatively new, and they're putting in way more effort right now and showing their work for it than I've seen from Zion. Meanwhile, he kept every new reveal behind the paywall.
And here we are, the pirates complaining and critizicing.
 

Dreamer44

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Impopular opinion below!

I liked the update.

Plenty of lore that expands and complicates the story (perhaps even spoilers to Warlock Saga), a few twists here and there that took me completely by surprise, and hot succubi designs (succubi being why most people play this, after all).

Not to say it's perfect (it gets dull having to break all those crystals to get to the Four Seasons succubi and the Duchess, for starters), but it was good, in my opinion.
 

Dreamer44

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I thought there was a way to view a gallery on here? Is it disabled for Ch. 5?
Read the above comments.

Long story short, only the old gallery is available, covering chapters 1 and 2.

The new and full one is coming with the second part of chapter 5.
 

azraelswegul

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Dec 27, 2017
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Well. Main story finished... I have my opinions on the first half of chapter 5 (and probably the ending of the main storyline).
First off: the game is pretty good and enjoyable, I like the story and the main characters and the succubuses have very creative gimmicks, the art is amazing, and the side-quests are enjoyable without being too long. So in no way I would call it a bad experience.

But let's go with some negatives of the overall game and specially the last chapter:

-The succubuses of Spring and Autumn are an absolute drag because of their paralyzing attacks, unless you consume the herb that allows you to be inmune of it's effects for five turns you have a pretty much guaranteed loss... which wouldn't be a problem if said herb was actually useful at any previous point of the game, which it isn't. Until this last two fights I spent the whole game without needing to use it not even once, so I didn't bother to buy any for the finale because I forgot those existed, so I had to make due with only five that I found around, and I was lucky I did all the sidequest before fighting the final four succubuses or I would've been locked in an impossible unskipabble fight.

-The only b-plot that managed to keep me interested was the Kein plot with the angel. The rest feel kinda like random fluff and I didn't really care for those characters (Socrates drunk on top of a mechanical golem was a funny gag, but it does not justify two hours of reading general lore of people that end up dead by the end of the game without really contributing to the main plot) which wouldn't be a problem at all and I would take it as "setting up future games" if not for the fact that the protagonist's playable story gets constantly interrupted by their interludes: you cross a random area? interlude, you defeated a succubus? interlude. You entered this area for the first time? interlude. And some of them are long.

- The red riding hood/ninja(?) succubus is kinda weird as a concept, but I guess she serves the part of stablishing that succubuses from all clans are always around an to be careful... tho it is a bit weird to showcase this at the end of the game.

-The fact that once you finish the game you get sent to the opening screen without a chance to save means I will have to re-do all of the finale once the second part releases, and honestly that feels like a HUGE drag because It is not a short while.

-I get somewhat confused by the ending, because it establishes that the protagonist for chapter 1 will be the same for the next chapters and the things that happened here will have a direct impact on the next ones... which is a mistake IMO, because it most likely means we will NOT see a resolution with the Witch or the Witch Hunter, because the survival of one implies the death of the other. It would be easier to handle if each chapter acted a bit like "jojo" in that regard, a different protagonist for each chapter, loosely connected stories, MAYBE a cameo of a previous character, but everything closes neatly without finishing open ended, so each feels like their own story.

And those are my general thoughts.
Overall I give it a solid 7/10. Several mistakes, choices I do not agree with, but a pretty fun experience nonetheless and the game knows what it is: a game about you beating boss succubuses.
 

Nait Sieve

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Mar 5, 2021
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No, chapter 5 is coming out in two parts. This is the first, which covers the final fight with the Duchess, reveals a lot of thing lore and story related, and shows us what's coming in the next game.

The second part will cover the new and complete gallery, the further development of the PC's village and the sex with the Love Interests.
thanks for the answer. to be honest though, i don't get why we shoud even be interested in developing our tribe at this point, given that the story has concludet and that we can't carry over our progress to a potential next game. it's the same with the "love interests" if we never get to continue with our save files... unless that "feature" only gets added in part two (?), which seems to make little sense if it doesn't add to the actual ending.
 
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dajjal321

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May 17, 2019
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Well. Main story finished... I have my opinions on the first half of chapter 5 (and probably the ending of the main storyline).
First off: the game is pretty good and enjoyable, I like the story and the main characters and the succubuses have very creative gimmicks, the art is amazing, and the side-quests are enjoyable without being too long. So in no way I would call it a bad experience.

But let's go with some negatives of the overall game and specially the last chapter:

-The succubuses of Spring and Autumn are an absolute drag because of their paralyzing attacks, unless you consume the herb that allows you to be inmune of it's effects for five turns you have a pretty much guaranteed loss... which wouldn't be a problem if said herb was actually useful at any previous point of the game, which it isn't. Until this last two fights I spent the whole game without needing to use it not even once, so I didn't bother to buy any for the finale because I forgot those existed, so I had to make due with only five that I found around, and I was lucky I did all the sidequest before fighting the final four succubuses or I would've been locked in an impossible unskipabble fight.

-The only b-plot that managed to keep me interested was the Kein plot with the angel. The rest feel kinda like random fluff and I didn't really care for those characters (Socrates drunk on top of a mechanical golem was a funny gag, but it does not justify two hours of reading general lore of people that end up dead by the end of the game without really contributing to the main plot) which wouldn't be a problem at all and I would take it as "setting up future games" if not for the fact that the protagonist's playable story gets constantly interrupted by their interludes: you cross a random area? interlude, you defeated a succubus? interlude. You entered this area for the first time? interlude. And some of them are long.

- The red riding hood/ninja(?) succubus is kinda weird as a concept, but I guess she serves the part of stablishing that succubuses from all clans are always around an to be careful... tho it is a bit weird to showcase this at the end of the game.

-The fact that once you finish the game you get sent to the opening screen without a chance to save means I will have to re-do all of the finale once the second part releases, and honestly that feels like a HUGE drag because It is not a short while.

-I get somewhat confused by the ending, because it establishes that the protagonist for chapter 1 will be the same for the next chapters and the things that happened here will have a direct impact on the next ones... which is a mistake IMO, because it most likely means we will NOT see a resolution with the Witch or the Witch Hunter, because the survival of one implies the death of the other. It would be easier to handle if each chapter acted a bit like "jojo" in that regard, a different protagonist for each chapter, loosely connected stories, MAYBE a cameo of a previous character, but everything closes neatly without finishing open ended, so each feels like their own story.

And those are my general thoughts.
Overall I give it a solid 7/10. Several mistakes, choices I do not agree with, but a pretty fun experience nonetheless and the game knows what it is: a game about you beating boss succubuses.

You can completely nullify paralyzing and poison effects by using Mask of Truth (poison) or Crown of Sumer(wind based attack like paralyzing effect)
 

azraelswegul

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Dec 27, 2017
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You can completely nullify paralyzing and poison effects by using Mask of Truth (poison) or Crown of Sumer(wind based attack like paralyzing effect)
the crown of summer only nullifies mental-based spells and confusion, not paralisis. Also not helped by the fact that the Spring Succubus has both kinds of damage, so even if you could nullify paralysis with the Crown (which I can testify, it doesn't as I was kept being paralyzed by the Autumn succubus) you'd still be able to choose only one among the two.
 

Dreamer44

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thanks for the answer. to be honest though, i don't get why we shoud even be interested in developing our tribe at this point, given that the story has concludet and that we can't carry over our progress to a potential next game. it's the same with the "love interests" if we never get to continue with our save files... unless that "feature" only gets added in part two (?), which seems to make little sense if it doesn't add to the actual ending.
The first game's story, perhaps. But your decisions will carry over to the next one.
 

Jack_Spicer

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Feb 14, 2022
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'I learned a lot over the years' I fucking hate reading this. He did not learn anything. He did not learn anything! Since 2019, nothing. Reading what he wrote here proves it, playing the new update proves it. If anything, the issues are even more glaring as the game progresses. I started playing from the beginning, and it pissed me off. Not because it's lacking, it is, but because obviously the guy has talent, he knows how to build an interesting world with decent characters and a compeling story, and due to his own ego, none of this will ever go anywhere. I noticed extra details on the first half of the game, things that were maybe added I don't remember it's been so long, and I can see the guy has, or had, a passion for this project, and that this would not be a cashgrab low-rate fap game (it still is a porn game, don't get me wrong). Unfortunately, he refuses to listen to any criticism, he is too lazy to work hard on his so called 'magnum opus', and he is unable to focus on what he's working on and he always starts side projects. Of course, at worst he's scamming us and sucking your wallets dry. At best, however, he is too incompetent to manage a project of this scope and these series will never reach its conclusion. Well I knew that, but I still wanted chapter five to deliver a satisfying conclusion to the first portion of the series. And you know what, it fucking didn't. It just kept introducing more and more shit. It concluded sure, but I'm out at this point. I just don't care anymore. If we ever see generation one completed, and that's a big if, who's to say it won't be like the shit we have now, starting off strong, with heart passion and atention to detail, and ending feeling tired and soulless. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm out, I just don't care anymore. I see no reason to keep following this game's development anymore, I never supported the dev and I'm proud of it. All this update did was show me that, at best, even if we are to look at it in good faith and do our best to try to understand where he's coming from, Zion learned nothing in these past few years and never will, which means this project is going absolutely nowhere.
Bro i totally agree with you. But man please keep it short next time . i'm here to see peoples' opinions in regards to the new update of a porn game. not George R.R. Martin's new big project, sheeesh :LOL:

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Floki23

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Jul 16, 2022
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My saves arent working when i upload them into the save folder. Does anyone knows how to fix it?

P.S- It also doesn't work with saves i got from other users
 
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