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Dreamer44

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Yeah, that's what someone told me. Someone in his server I think? Told me that he had a bunch of new ones that either were or weren't on his Patreon, but were to be kept hush hush. Way more than we have here. And to add to that, I would like to say, how is what he's doing not a form of typical minimum effort scam that a lot of "hentai game devs" pull? Every update, every single update he's made has just been revealing a new succubus like the four seasons, duchess, Shiki's, etc, all behind the Patreon paywall. I only know of what's been posted on Kemono because I don't pay for porn to begin with, I'm absolutely not shelling out a monthly fee just to get fed crumbs as the artists finish their job.

You know what's interesting to me? There's this up and coming succubus game called Situation Succ. They have a server. I'm in that one too. And guess what? While some of their art updates are paywalled, some aren't, and they semi frequently(once a week maybe by this point if not just about)show off new general updates like certain dialogues finished, certain interactions with the MC and the titular succubus characters finished, the music, the spriting and sprite animations, etc, etc.

They're relatively new, and they're putting in way more effort right now and showing their work for it than I've seen from Zion. Meanwhile, he kept every new reveal behind the paywall.
And here we are, the pirates complaining and critizicing.
 

Dreamer44

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Impopular opinion below!

I liked the update.

Plenty of lore that expands and complicates the story (perhaps even spoilers to Warlock Saga), a few twists here and there that took me completely by surprise, and hot succubi designs (succubi being why most people play this, after all).

Not to say it's perfect (it gets dull having to break all those crystals to get to the Four Seasons succubi and the Duchess, for starters), but it was good, in my opinion.
 

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I thought there was a way to view a gallery on here? Is it disabled for Ch. 5?
Read the above comments.

Long story short, only the old gallery is available, covering chapters 1 and 2.

The new and full one is coming with the second part of chapter 5.
 

azraelswegul

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Well. Main story finished... I have my opinions on the first half of chapter 5 (and probably the ending of the main storyline).
First off: the game is pretty good and enjoyable, I like the story and the main characters and the succubuses have very creative gimmicks, the art is amazing, and the side-quests are enjoyable without being too long. So in no way I would call it a bad experience.

But let's go with some negatives of the overall game and specially the last chapter:

-The succubuses of Spring and Autumn are an absolute drag because of their paralyzing attacks, unless you consume the herb that allows you to be inmune of it's effects for five turns you have a pretty much guaranteed loss... which wouldn't be a problem if said herb was actually useful at any previous point of the game, which it isn't. Until this last two fights I spent the whole game without needing to use it not even once, so I didn't bother to buy any for the finale because I forgot those existed, so I had to make due with only five that I found around, and I was lucky I did all the sidequest before fighting the final four succubuses or I would've been locked in an impossible unskipabble fight.

-The only b-plot that managed to keep me interested was the Kein plot with the angel. The rest feel kinda like random fluff and I didn't really care for those characters (Socrates drunk on top of a mechanical golem was a funny gag, but it does not justify two hours of reading general lore of people that end up dead by the end of the game without really contributing to the main plot) which wouldn't be a problem at all and I would take it as "setting up future games" if not for the fact that the protagonist's playable story gets constantly interrupted by their interludes: you cross a random area? interlude, you defeated a succubus? interlude. You entered this area for the first time? interlude. And some of them are long.

- The red riding hood/ninja(?) succubus is kinda weird as a concept, but I guess she serves the part of stablishing that succubuses from all clans are always around an to be careful... tho it is a bit weird to showcase this at the end of the game.

-The fact that once you finish the game you get sent to the opening screen without a chance to save means I will have to re-do all of the finale once the second part releases, and honestly that feels like a HUGE drag because It is not a short while.

-I get somewhat confused by the ending, because it establishes that the protagonist for chapter 1 will be the same for the next chapters and the things that happened here will have a direct impact on the next ones... which is a mistake IMO, because it most likely means we will NOT see a resolution with the Witch or the Witch Hunter, because the survival of one implies the death of the other. It would be easier to handle if each chapter acted a bit like "jojo" in that regard, a different protagonist for each chapter, loosely connected stories, MAYBE a cameo of a previous character, but everything closes neatly without finishing open ended, so each feels like their own story.

And those are my general thoughts.
Overall I give it a solid 7/10. Several mistakes, choices I do not agree with, but a pretty fun experience nonetheless and the game knows what it is: a game about you beating boss succubuses.
 

Nait Sieve

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No, chapter 5 is coming out in two parts. This is the first, which covers the final fight with the Duchess, reveals a lot of thing lore and story related, and shows us what's coming in the next game.

The second part will cover the new and complete gallery, the further development of the PC's village and the sex with the Love Interests.
thanks for the answer. to be honest though, i don't get why we shoud even be interested in developing our tribe at this point, given that the story has concludet and that we can't carry over our progress to a potential next game. it's the same with the "love interests" if we never get to continue with our save files... unless that "feature" only gets added in part two (?), which seems to make little sense if it doesn't add to the actual ending.
 
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dajjal321

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Well. Main story finished... I have my opinions on the first half of chapter 5 (and probably the ending of the main storyline).
First off: the game is pretty good and enjoyable, I like the story and the main characters and the succubuses have very creative gimmicks, the art is amazing, and the side-quests are enjoyable without being too long. So in no way I would call it a bad experience.

But let's go with some negatives of the overall game and specially the last chapter:

-The succubuses of Spring and Autumn are an absolute drag because of their paralyzing attacks, unless you consume the herb that allows you to be inmune of it's effects for five turns you have a pretty much guaranteed loss... which wouldn't be a problem if said herb was actually useful at any previous point of the game, which it isn't. Until this last two fights I spent the whole game without needing to use it not even once, so I didn't bother to buy any for the finale because I forgot those existed, so I had to make due with only five that I found around, and I was lucky I did all the sidequest before fighting the final four succubuses or I would've been locked in an impossible unskipabble fight.

-The only b-plot that managed to keep me interested was the Kein plot with the angel. The rest feel kinda like random fluff and I didn't really care for those characters (Socrates drunk on top of a mechanical golem was a funny gag, but it does not justify two hours of reading general lore of people that end up dead by the end of the game without really contributing to the main plot) which wouldn't be a problem at all and I would take it as "setting up future games" if not for the fact that the protagonist's playable story gets constantly interrupted by their interludes: you cross a random area? interlude, you defeated a succubus? interlude. You entered this area for the first time? interlude. And some of them are long.

- The red riding hood/ninja(?) succubus is kinda weird as a concept, but I guess she serves the part of stablishing that succubuses from all clans are always around an to be careful... tho it is a bit weird to showcase this at the end of the game.

-The fact that once you finish the game you get sent to the opening screen without a chance to save means I will have to re-do all of the finale once the second part releases, and honestly that feels like a HUGE drag because It is not a short while.

-I get somewhat confused by the ending, because it establishes that the protagonist for chapter 1 will be the same for the next chapters and the things that happened here will have a direct impact on the next ones... which is a mistake IMO, because it most likely means we will NOT see a resolution with the Witch or the Witch Hunter, because the survival of one implies the death of the other. It would be easier to handle if each chapter acted a bit like "jojo" in that regard, a different protagonist for each chapter, loosely connected stories, MAYBE a cameo of a previous character, but everything closes neatly without finishing open ended, so each feels like their own story.

And those are my general thoughts.
Overall I give it a solid 7/10. Several mistakes, choices I do not agree with, but a pretty fun experience nonetheless and the game knows what it is: a game about you beating boss succubuses.

You can completely nullify paralyzing and poison effects by using Mask of Truth (poison) or Crown of Sumer(wind based attack like paralyzing effect)
 

azraelswegul

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You can completely nullify paralyzing and poison effects by using Mask of Truth (poison) or Crown of Sumer(wind based attack like paralyzing effect)
the crown of summer only nullifies mental-based spells and confusion, not paralisis. Also not helped by the fact that the Spring Succubus has both kinds of damage, so even if you could nullify paralysis with the Crown (which I can testify, it doesn't as I was kept being paralyzed by the Autumn succubus) you'd still be able to choose only one among the two.
 

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thanks for the answer. to be honest though, i don't get why we shoud even be interested in developing our tribe at this point, given that the story has concludet and that we can't carry over our progress to a potential next game. it's the same with the "love interests" if we never get to continue with our save files... unless that "feature" only gets added in part two (?), which seems to make little sense if it doesn't add to the actual ending.
The first game's story, perhaps. But your decisions will carry over to the next one.
 

Jack_Spicer

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'I learned a lot over the years' I fucking hate reading this. He did not learn anything. He did not learn anything! Since 2019, nothing. Reading what he wrote here proves it, playing the new update proves it. If anything, the issues are even more glaring as the game progresses. I started playing from the beginning, and it pissed me off. Not because it's lacking, it is, but because obviously the guy has talent, he knows how to build an interesting world with decent characters and a compeling story, and due to his own ego, none of this will ever go anywhere. I noticed extra details on the first half of the game, things that were maybe added I don't remember it's been so long, and I can see the guy has, or had, a passion for this project, and that this would not be a cashgrab low-rate fap game (it still is a porn game, don't get me wrong). Unfortunately, he refuses to listen to any criticism, he is too lazy to work hard on his so called 'magnum opus', and he is unable to focus on what he's working on and he always starts side projects. Of course, at worst he's scamming us and sucking your wallets dry. At best, however, he is too incompetent to manage a project of this scope and these series will never reach its conclusion. Well I knew that, but I still wanted chapter five to deliver a satisfying conclusion to the first portion of the series. And you know what, it fucking didn't. It just kept introducing more and more shit. It concluded sure, but I'm out at this point. I just don't care anymore. If we ever see generation one completed, and that's a big if, who's to say it won't be like the shit we have now, starting off strong, with heart passion and atention to detail, and ending feeling tired and soulless. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm out, I just don't care anymore. I see no reason to keep following this game's development anymore, I never supported the dev and I'm proud of it. All this update did was show me that, at best, even if we are to look at it in good faith and do our best to try to understand where he's coming from, Zion learned nothing in these past few years and never will, which means this project is going absolutely nowhere.
Bro i totally agree with you. But man please keep it short next time . i'm here to see peoples' opinions in regards to the new update of a porn game. not George R.R. Martin's new big project, sheeesh :LOL:

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Floki23

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My saves arent working when i upload them into the save folder. Does anyone knows how to fix it?

P.S- It also doesn't work with saves i got from other users
 

7ses

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I first came across this game years ago, shortly after the first chapter was completed. I thought it was awesome.

Since then, it has aged exceptionally poorly, and Zion has done nothing to modernise it. The game engine and style creates a tedious and unrewarding gameplay experience and the most important aspect, the succubi, have gone backwards.

The art is now far worse than before, the succubi have fewer scenes and the animations were removed. There are reasons as to why each of these things has happened, but seemingly no tangible effort to fix or provide new alternatives to amp up the quality of the game.

Had this series been handled properly it probably could have been making double or triple its Patreon donations every month.

Overall this journey, since the end of Chapter 2 has been a massive disappointment. Zion comes across as a nice guy but this series would be best off being sold to someone else, or at least managed by someone else.
 
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I believe the gallery and the heroine scenes are going to be in the very last patch for the game, which is the next one. Zion posted that some way back in this thread aftter chapter 5 dropped.

As for the 2 years, we got Eden's Crest during the delay, which is an entire additional game.

I can't believe I'm seeing so many people complain about a femdom game actually finishing for once.
There are, in fact, plenty of femdom games that finish. The original Monster Girl Quest trilogy, to name one famous example. The original SHRIFT too. It's a big market, it's not like we're starved of options here.
 
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Nait Sieve

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The first game's story, perhaps. But your decisions will carry over to the next one.
correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure that we woud require an actual save file to carry over anything substancial at all.
and we can't save our progress at the very end, instead simply getting thrown back to the main menu.
i guess making the next game start with a couple questions like "what happened to the witch?" or "did you lead the army or interact with the incubus instead?" woud work as well (also required for new players), but carrying over our file woud feel way more satisying.
 

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Oh...does a little pussy feel offended because someone criticizes your "work"?

Let me tell you something Zion of Olympus , you're a scammer. And your actions show that you are not capable of criticism at all. Why do you block people on twitter or on your discord? Are you afraid that your last brain-dead supporters will jump ship so that you don't get any more money? Boo hoo...if you want to avoid this in the future, then provide the content that people deserve. And don't keep teasing things but nothing comes from your side. It's just a fact that chapter 5 isn't worth the two-year wait. Neither the quality nor the content is satisfying enough to justify those two years. And where is your high-quality dialog, please? Or animations? Or your very complex maps? All of it is missing. I don't know what kind of people you know who claim to be your "game testers", but apparently they seem to be thoroughly retarded as well. In the last section of the game alone I discovered out of bounds glitches, or spelling mistakes. Cutscenes are still static images. Your "complex" maps are boring and offer no exploration whatsoever. No treasures, nothing at all. The artists simply don't deserve a load of garbage software like yours. Shame on you. To all patreon supporters who still exist, use your common sense and stop giving this scumbag your money. And please, don't recommend this game to others. Zion of Olympus should be banned from patreon. A few pages earlier, a user showed how easy it would be to animate something (even if it's just wobbling with the mouse). I would rather support this guy on patreon than you. And his work didn't even take a day. And all of you who are now claiming that good game development takes years, listen to me. He uses an editor. None of what he does is developed from scratch. Real games are not created with rpg makers either. That's a huge difference.

EDIT: I mean, look at this or this. 5 minutes on a cheap android phone. Nuff said.
How bad is your current life going at the moment to post such a useless and hatefull comment? And how entitled do you have to be, to believe that someone owns you anything for the fact that you are posting on a site with pirated games? No wonder he blocked you, everyone should, you are the most toxic leecher i've ever seen.

I don't enjoy the state that the game has reached, but that doesn't mean I would just hate on the creator without giving any bit of usefull comment. My god you must be sad.

I like how someone pointed out that the lore is sometimes too much and the small battles are a lot and kind of pointless, I totally agree these could be huge improvements.

And I've seen some other good reviews on this forum, but if I were in Zion's place I wouldn't bother reading anything from here because of some sad kids with nothing going for them.
 
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3.50 star(s) 104 Votes