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sigmazx

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The gameplay is still weak. The dev refusal to add any meaningful gameplay or real temptation elements is killing any interest I have in supporting the game.

Please play Succubus Senki and compare the gameplay and temptation to this. This game is just a CG gallery with you walking around in a simple RPG maker template beating regular ass demons.

It's so barebones. Might as well release it as a CG gallery and be done with it.

Again, the dev will say OH NO SUCCUBUS WILL EAT YOU. Will guess what, that's a lazy excuse of just ending all events with either watch this defeat scene or kill the succubus.

Extremely disheartening to what could be the next monster girl quest. Oh well, mission failed I guess.
 
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NeroZee

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The gameplay is still weak. The dev refusal to add any meaningful gameplay or real temptation elements is killing any interest I have in supporting the game.

Please play Succubus Senki and compare the gameplay and temptation to this. This game is just a CG gallery with you walking around in a simple RPG maker template beating regular ass demons.

It's so barebones. Might as well release it as a CG gallery and be done with it.

Again, the dev will say OH NO SUCCUBUS WILL EAT YOU. Will guess what, that's a lazy excuse of just ending all events with either watch this defeat scene or kill the succubus.

Extremely disheartening to what could be the next monster girl quest. Oh well, mission failed I guess.
It's a shame the game is not your cup of tea but not everything will hit it's mark for everyone. The game is still fairly early on and it's the Dev's first game so he will improve with experience as he goes on, or he wont only time will tell.

But i disagree on it being just CG gallery and nothing else, i enjoy the story and characters of the game as much as i enjoy the h-scenes and the h-scenes are honestly fine for me, but to each their own as they say.

Well hopefully you find the next MGQ game you are looking for since this game isn't to your taste, but this game never tried to be the next MGQ, it's trying to do it's own thing, so good luck and take care.
 

sigmazx

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It's a shame the game is not your cup of tea but not everything will hit it's mark for everyone. The game is still fairly early on and it's the Dev's first game so he will improve with experience as he goes on, or he wont only time will tell.

But i disagree on it being just CG gallery and nothing else, i enjoy the story and characters of the game as much as i enjoy the h-scenes and the h-scenes are honestly fine for me, but to each their own as they say.

Well hopefully you find the next MGQ game you are looking for since this game isn't to your taste, but this game never tried to be the next MGQ, it's trying to do it's own thing, so good luck and take care.
There are simple gameplay things the dev could do to enhance the experience.

For example, when you run away in the tribal succubus maze instead of instant game over/watch long hour of cg scene, the dev can add a "lust" meter.

They won't kill you instantly. the more lust you have, the more you will succumb in the end. It's such a simple concept found in many femdom rpg maker games.

I doubt he will bother with anything like that since right from the start, dev insists on succubus = instant death. For me, this is just telling me to go straight to e-hentai gallery.

The story is good but shoving text isn't gonna elevate a poor rpgmaker gameplay.
 

NeroZee

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There are simple gameplay things the dev could do to enhance the experience.

For example, when you run away in the tribal succubus maze instead of instant game over/watch long hour of cg scene, the dev can add a "lust" meter.

They won't kill you instantly. the more lust you have, the more you will succumb in the end. It's such a simple concept found in many femdom rpg maker games.

I doubt he will bother with anything like that since right from the start, dev insists on succubus = instant death. For me, this is just telling me to go straight to e-hentai gallery.

The story is good but shoving text isn't gonna elevate a poor rpgmaker gameplay.
The reason the Tribal succubus is instant game over is because your ability to resist the succubi is dependent on your artifacts, mainly the gauntlet with the iron will, which is what he lost when he fell in the trap.

Other than that, you have 2 times to resist a succubus when she mounts you and you carry the glove, so it's not an instant game over, if you fail to call upon the glove those 2 times, then it's game over.

Also not every succubi will be kill happy or anything, but most are even if they don't want, it's something they can't really control but there is a clan that has managed to control it to some effect and we will see them in the future.

As i said the game is still very much evolving and i always transfer to him various suggestions people give, in fact on his discord there is an entire channel dedicate just for people giving suggestion for the game.
 

sigmazx

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Jun 18, 2018
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The reason the Tribal succubus is instant game over is because your ability to resist the succubi is dependent on your artifacts, mainly the gauntlet with the iron will, which is what he lost when he fell in the trap.

Other than that, you have 2 times to resist a succubus when she mounts you and you carry the glove, so it's not an instant game over, if you fail to call upon the glove those 2 times, then it's game over.

Also not every succubi will be kill happy or anything, but most are even if they don't want, it's something they can't really control but there is a clan that has managed to control it to some effect and we will see them in the future.

As i said the game is still very much evolving and i always transfer to him various suggestions people give, in fact on his discord there is an entire channel dedicate just for people giving suggestion for the game.
All I need is small progression here and there like Tower of Trample, Succubus Senki, Pandora's Forest etc. The little struggle/lust/kinks spread around the map in these games are what makes me coming back to experiment more.

Right now this game is straight linear path with no surprising gameplay elements. It's a bit dry.

I'm not expecting my suggestions to be added ASAP or even at all. I can always wait another year for Tower of Trample update lol.
 

superfalfal

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Even if there is a suggestion channel, the gameplay is still poor and as far as i know, he wont change that since he doesn't know how to program. People are supporting him non the less. So why should he actually bother? :D
 
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NeroZee

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All I need is small progression here and there like Tower of Trample, Succubus Senki, Pandora's Forest etc. The little struggle/lust/kinks spread around the map in these games are what makes me coming back to experiment more.

Right now this game is straight linear path with no surprising gameplay elements. It's a bit dry.

I'm not expecting my suggestions to be added ASAP or even at all. I can always wait another year for Tower of Trample update lol.
I will just tell you that temptation events and traps that the MC will fall into and i don't mean traps like the ones the 2 succubi laid out, but actually certain kinks laid out around the map will be an actual thing in the series that will be more and more evident as the game progress.
 

Porn_Jesus

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It's a shame the game is not your cup of tea but not everything will hit it's mark for everyone. The game is still fairly early on and it's the Dev's first game so he will improve with experience as he goes on, or he wont only time will tell.

But i disagree on it being just CG gallery and nothing else, i enjoy the story and characters of the game as much as i enjoy the h-scenes and the h-scenes are honestly fine for me, but to each their own as they say.

Well hopefully you find the next MGQ game you are looking for since this game isn't to your taste, but this game never tried to be the next MGQ, it's trying to do it's own thing, so good luck and take care.
The reason the Tribal succubus is instant game over is because your ability to resist the succubi is dependent on your artifacts, mainly the gauntlet with the iron will, which is what he lost when he fell in the trap.

Other than that, you have 2 times to resist a succubus when she mounts you and you carry the glove, so it's not an instant game over, if you fail to call upon the glove those 2 times, then it's game over.

Also not every succubi will be kill happy or anything, but most are even if they don't want, it's something they can't really control but there is a clan that has managed to control it to some effect and we will see them in the future.

As i said the game is still very much evolving and i always transfer to him various suggestions people give, in fact on his discord there is an entire channel dedicate just for people giving suggestion for the game.
It would be nice if Zion can improve certain sections of previous areas later when he gathered more experience/ideas but i guess this would make progress on new stuff slower and probably make a good workflow impossible.

For now it's a ok game with plot but hopefully Zion goes raw later and adds lots of good stuff. :D
 

NeroZee

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Even if there is a suggestion channel, the gameplay is still poor and as far as i know, he wont change that since he doesn't know how to program. People are supporting him non the less. So why should he actually bother? :D
The gameplay is constantly changing, it changed from the demo than it changed from chapter 1 and now it changed in chapter 2 and the Dev is still figuring out the kinks as he goes as he gains more experience with it. I dunno what calls out for this much pessimism but if the Dev didn't care about the gameplay or only cared about money, then the game wouldn't be constantly evolving, he wouldn't give most of the money he earns to the artist, animator and voice actresses, he is also in communication with his patreons and ppl on discord on a daily basis so anyone can ask him a question they want and will get their answer there. These are little things that don't matter much, he would have as much money on patreon even without them and could pocket most of it but that is pretty much not the case so far.
 

NeroZee

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It would be nice if Zion can improve certain sections of previous areas later when he gathered more experience/ideas but i guess this would make progress on new stuff slower and probably make a good workflow impossible.

For now it's a ok game with plot but hopefully Zion goes raw later and adds lots of good stuff. :D
He also plans to do this as well at some point, he has already changed or added things in the previous chapter, for instance voice acting has been added for White Demon despite her being in chapter 1 and with the next update that will add animation and other stuff he also plans to add voice acting for the 1st general.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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He also plans to do this as well at some point, he has already changed or added things in the previous chapter, for instance voice acting has been added for White Demon despite her being in chapter 1 and with the next update that will add animation and other stuff he also plans to add voice acting for the 1st general.
Sweet <3
 

Porn_Jesus

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is it just or or is the spider boss ridiculously op as she can 3 shot me?
She's probably the strongest one of the enemies. But if you manage to kill her before you reach the final boss of chapter 2 you will get a nice dmg boost item.^^ You get it too if you kill her last but yeah, +2 item is gud.
 
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Redgate

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The game isn't even 30% done. We got a glimpse of traps, events, the first town-like area and the fact that there will be a tribe system.
Don't compare these 2 chapters to games that have been in development for years.
 
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