Haha, thx for telling me before I'd propose monster girls. I can see your point with rather specific fetishes catered, but that in no way requires gameplay to be repeatable. I'd rather see some variations, akin to that mini game where you get trapped and disarmed, but executed in little more fun way. Damn those zooming succubi and that corridor with 1 million niches you have to hide in pissed me off so hard, i didn't even complete that minigame.
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Thanks. I actually don't really have direct contact with Zion. I only reply because most of the questions or suggestions here have already been said many times before, but it's not like someone will go search the 100 pages of this thread (not that I blame them, it really is a lot), and that's not even taking into consideration the other thread that exists for this game.
I figured that the less time Zion spends giving the same answer again and again, the better (since it can be quite tiring I assume), so I try to reply if I remember the answer Zion gave before. Of course, I believe questions and suggestions are always welcomed, since they can give Zion an idea as to what people want, but even so I try to respond with Zion's old answers so that people may know what his last thought or stance on the matter was. If by chance Zion has changed his mind about that matter, then he will likely respond correcting me, but if Zion still stands by his previous answer, then all he has to do then is just like my comment, instead of typing out the answer (which takes a little more time).
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As for the gameplay cycle, Zion is already aware of this. This is his first game so right now he is trying his best, unfortunately, it is true that the gameplay and the combat are a little linear. He is doing his best to improve both of these every time he releases an update, and you can see that is the case if you compare each version released so far.
Even so, the main formula you mentioned will most likely stay, at least for this game, since it fits the theme of the era that we are currently on (since succubi right now are conquerors and they are defending their territory). But even though we will stay with this main formula, we can hopefully expect:
-some side quests (like the tribal succubi and the witch quest)
-succubi that deviate from this norm (like the captured succubus)
-succubi that don't belong to the main clan of the game (like the spider succubus and IIRC, the cow succubus that will be present in chapter 3)
-love interests that don't follow the pattern that you have to die if you wish to have sex all the way (like Iole and Atessatia)
-choices that will affect the story in the future (like if you decide to side with the witch or kill her)
Exploration will be something that this game will also encourage, as some of these require you to do so in order to be able to access them. We can even see a castle close to where Drita was, which we can expect something from it in a future update. Right now, we even have the angel tower challenges for some extra content outside of just defeating succubi.
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man the queen have SOUL DRAIN damn I would love to see the loosing part to her
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Tbh i don't care about energy drain but i'm happy with some of the succubus designs (i guess it will get better when the other clans join) and spider succubus was already a solid start.^^
Its funny how Zion doesn't want to add monster girls, but his succubus designs from the different clans are actually lightweight versions of monster girls.
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Nah, it's quite easy. You can save all the time and they all have an easy movement pattern.^^
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xd yeah, I think the key word here is "full monster girl". I believe this is to have all enemies adhere to the rules established of a succubus, like all of them having Energy Drain and death by snu snu (the core of this game). If we were to say these enemies were not succubi, then it could open an opportunity to say that since they don't need to consume energy to survive, then they could theoretically become a possible companion for the protagonist (which is not the point of this game).
But as you said, we could relate some succubus clans to existing monster girls, for example:
- Leaf Clan - Plant type monster girls (like Alraune, Dryads, Myconids, Mandragora)
- Insect Clan - Bug type monster girls (like bees, butterflys, moths, mosquitos, arachne)
- Beast Clan - Beastman type monster girls (like cows, sheep, canines, felines, harpies)
- Crimson Blood Clan - Vampires
- Imperious Sea Clan - Aquatic type monster girls (like mermaids, scylla, kraken, mershark, sea slugs)
- Scarlet/Azure Hellish Clan - Red/Blue onis
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That's true lol
What I mean by this is not going too far into the monster girl world
Add some wings, horns, etc, based on the clan they belong.
But going too monstrous like having a mouth on her belly, multiple eyes, completely different torso than that of a female human, etc,I don't wish to include.
Actually whole energy drain and death by snu-snu is just much more restrictive and admitedly sexier variation of good old monster girl vore trope. Like Alraune could just trap you in her flower and digest you, arachnes would just put you in web cocoon literally drain your juices. (I wasn't going to propose anything like that cause i'm not a fan of vore.) While succubus anatomy is much more restricted version of possible monster girls anatomies. I'd like to see plant succubus that's rooted in one place, or at least one with green skin, but i know that's my personal preference and it's not going to be popular or well recieved by majority.
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-Actually, you are wrong about energy drain origins (Although I agree with you that Energy Drain is sexier, but that's my own opinion, vore isn't for me). Succubus energy drain came with the actual legend where they suck vitality of man through sex to sustain themselves, to the point where the man is either left exhausted or dead. Energy drain (and even the term itself) was just popularized by games like Monster Girl Quest.
-Lesser Leaf (the first one) is rooted in place. lol
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We do have some leaf clan succubi with those characteristics. The lesser leaf succubus is actually rooted, while the tribal leaf succubi have green skin. The hellish clan will most likely also present different colored skin, red for the scarlet faction and blue for the azure faction. So while most succubi will have more human like characteristics, there will probably be some exceptions to this.
heh, i actually forgot about lessier leaf completely, may be if I'd meet her at least one more time instead of those boring flowers i'd remember about her.
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I mean, you also forgot about the green skinned tribal succubi even though there are multiple of them, so I don't know if meeting them more than once is gonna be enough for you to remember them.
You say you want a rooted plant succubus but then you forget that one is already in the game, you want some deviation in the gameplay but then you don't even complete the tribal succubi section. You're kinda hard to please
You say you want a rooted plant succubus but then you forget that one is already in the game, you want some deviation in the gameplay but then you don't even complete the tribal succubi section. You're kinda hard to please
Dude, tribal succubi section made me so tilted I have PTSD because of that. My mind shuts down whenever I try to recollect what was in it, so I can't conjure image of tribals in my mind without seeing flashbacks of that CORRIDOR OF DOOM.
P.S. I'm on my way to drink myself into oblivion, cause you reminded me of all that horror.
P.S. I'm on my way to drink myself into oblivion, cause you reminded me of all that horror.
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