Zuul

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But good to see it completed, rather than abandoned.
I just see this as an opportunity for DragaX & Co to move on to more games within the lore/world that was created to tell more stories, but we'll see.
Slapping some rushed endings onto a game that was barely into its story isn't much better than outright abandoning it.

A significant chunk of this game is just content that arbitrarily ends mid-resolution or gets outright abandoned with no follow-up at all, very little of it is actually finished.

It's pretty clear that the scope of the game got downsized considerably a few updates back, and the lack of rewrites makes it stand out since a lot of earlier content doesn't match the pacing the newer content tried to set so they can have an ending point.
 

coretex

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Slapping some rushed endings onto a game that was barely into its story isn't much better than outright abandoning it.

A significant chunk of this game is just content that arbitrarily ends mid-resolution or gets outright abandoned with no follow-up at all, very little of it is actually finished.

It's pretty clear that the scope of the game got downsized considerably a few updates back, and the lack of rewrites makes it stand out since a lot of earlier content doesn't match the pacing the newer content tried to set so they can have an ending point.
Yea there is a bit of that... which is sad. I think a lot of authors learned the hard way in the last few years, and so scopes changed and redoing work sometimes just looks even worse. But like I said.. I hope the good ones decide to then take what they have created and do more properly scoped stories to expand that way. So we'll see.
 

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Cheated version of Suddenly a Girl 0.8a:
- typos from previous mod are already fixed by dev, same apply to Ambitious trait description and top pink clothes
- time format: UTC clock changed to local clock in whole game by dev - fix not needed
Cheats:
-ability to set any number of traits at game start
-no wait time pass before club (I don't know if it's worthy to add more than this)
-cooking adds money instead using it! (+energy +mood)

Suddenly_a_Girl.08A-MOD.zip
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Fixed and cheated version of Suddenly a Girl 0.2:

Fixes:
-Fixed a few text typos (alsmost - almost, Orgsams-Orgasms)
-Added missing description for Ambitious trait in the phone
-fixed bug with displaying wearing pink top clothes
-fixed a bug with not ability to wear slutty clothes having slutty trait
-Corrected time setting from Hours to UTCHours - sleep bug - credit to L7Bear

Cheats:
-ability to set any number of traits at game start
-don't reduce appearance
-no time pass in locations: home, makeup, wardrobe, Mall-buy, club
-cooking book adds +10 cooking skill instead +1
-cooking adds a money instead using it! (and more perversion if cooking naked)
-no sober from alcohol after sex event - more fun in a night club

Suddenly_a_Girl_0.2.mod-fix2.rar
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will you be updating the cheat mod
 

Shadowhunter9

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Does this mean your updates for Sheroni Girls are going to be more frequent or are you starting up another game?

Haven't played the completed version yet. Reading the changelog for the 'final' version I'm disappointed at how little content was added compared to regular updates (can't overstate the importance of 'compared to' here).

While I do appreciate the work put in and understand that you are not in the mood to expand it any further for the foreseeable future, I do hope you come back to this game in a year or so and make a 1.1 update or something. Reason for this is side stories like Jack, the park, modelling and pornstar to name a few, could do with a bit more fleshing out and proper rounding up.
I also see the problem in doing this. It raises the question: When is it enough?

Overall, gotta say I'm kinda disappointed by this one being 'completed' already, but I'm looking forward to see how you flesh out Sheroni Girls. Especially love the janitor route in that one:love:
 
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hello everyone!How to take the test to the Office correctly! Please tell me!
Go to the library to raise your intelligence and raise your social by talking to people there or at the diner. As for the questions: 3, 3, 3, 1 will get you the job. I usually fail the intelligence test but still get the job, so there's some leway.
 
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DragaX

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Slapping some rushed endings onto a game that was barely into its story isn't much better than outright abandoning it.

A significant chunk of this game is just content that arbitrarily ends mid-resolution or gets outright abandoned with no follow-up at all, very little of it is actually finished.

It's pretty clear that the scope of the game got downsized considerably a few updates back, and the lack of rewrites makes it stand out since a lot of earlier content doesn't match the pacing the newer content tried to set so they can have an ending point.
I'm sorry that you are disappointed. It is true that I had much more planned initially but after working on this game for 3 years I had to tone it down or it would have never gotten finished. Especially since a few paths only got added because of feedback or because it's "expected" of an sandbox life-sim game, which I didn't actually liked working on that much and therefore turned out smaller.

Not sure what you mean with "barely into its story" though. The whole story is pretty much this: Jeff uses some inventions for evil things and turns you into a girl and you try to turn back and stop him.
The goal of the game was to reach your goal but how you do that is the big thing here. Resist his influence as best as you can, play along but not too much to get turned into his slut or just giving in and embracing all of the new desires you feel and turn into his slut.

Now I'm also curious what you mean with "very little is finished". What's unfinished? I feel like I had dealt with everything. Could it have been more fleshed out? Sure. But is it unfinished? As far as I know, it isn't. But the game is big and has a lot of paths, so please let me know, maybe I missed some stuff.

I'm not opposed to adding new content that fleshes stuff out more some time in the future.

Does this mean your updates for Sheroni Girls are going to be more frequent or are you starting up another game?

Haven't played the completed version yet. Reading the changelog for the 'final' version I'm disappointed at how little content was added compared to regular updates (can't overstate the importance of 'compared to' here).

While I do appreciate the work put in and understand that you are not in the mood to expand it any further for the foreseeable future, I do hope you come back to this game in a year or so and make a 1.1 update or something. Reason for this is side stories like Jack, the park, modelling and pornstar to name a few, could do with a bit more fleshing out and proper rounding up.
I also see the problem in doing this. It raises the question: When is it enough?

Overall, gotta say I'm kinda disappointed by this one being 'completed' already, but I'm looking forward to see how you flesh out Sheroni Girls. Especially love the janitor route in that one:love:
Yes, Sheroni Girls will get more updates from now on. But I'm also going to start working on a smaller side project starting next month. More info about that can be read on my blog.

I assume I could have done the changelog better. Each ending has a free roam part (except the male one) there are 5 girl path endings, and if I remember correctly each ending has 3 new events. So 5*3= 15 new events. On top of that I also did several text changes on some places that will all change depending on what ending you get, as well as some new dialogues here and there.
 

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I'm sorry that you are disappointed. It is true that I had much more planned initially but after working on this game for 3 years I had to tone it down or it would have never gotten finished. Especially since a few paths only got added because of feedback or because it's "expected" of an sandbox life-sim game, which I didn't actually liked working on that much and therefore turned out smaller.

Not sure what you mean with "barely into its story" though. The whole story is pretty much this: Jeff uses some inventions for evil things and turns you into a girl and you try to turn back and stop him.
The goal of the game was to reach your goal but how you do that is the big thing here. Resist his influence as best as you can, play along but not too much to get turned into his slut or just giving in and embracing all of the new desires you feel and turn into his slut.

Now I'm also curious what you mean with "very little is finished". What's unfinished? I feel like I had dealt with everything. Could it have been more fleshed out? Sure. But is it unfinished? As far as I know, it isn't. But the game is big and has a lot of paths, so please let me know, maybe I missed some stuff.

I'm not opposed to adding new content that fleshes stuff out more some time in the future.


Yes, Sheroni Girls will get more updates from now on. But I'm also going to start working on a smaller side project starting next month. More info about that can be read on my blog.

I assume I could have done the changelog better. Each ending has a free roam part (except the male one) there are 5 girl path endings, and if I remember correctly each ending has 3 new events. So 5*3= 15 new events. On top of that I also did several text changes on some places that will all change depending on what ending you get, as well as some new dialogues here and there.
I'm gonna lead with this: Kudos for making an ending and not just abandoning your project like most creators here. Am i disappointed this game is ending: Yup. Do i think act 2 (post mom's party) should have been more fleshed out: For sure. Would i loved a proper act 3: Yes.

I loved this game and i found out on it was ending as I was going to you patreon to sub to it. So yeah, I'm bummed, but I appreciated you made the effort to close things up.
 

Zuul

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Not sure what you mean with "barely into its story" though. The whole story is pretty much this: Jeff uses some inventions for evil things and turns you into a girl and you try to turn back and stop him.
The goal of the game was to reach your goal but how you do that is the big thing here. Resist his influence as best as you can, play along but not too much to get turned into his slut or just giving in and embracing all of the new desires you feel and turn into his slut.
What I mean is that the game's main story boils down to 4 very brief steps, 3 of which are just setup done nearly back-to-back and the 4th being the ending which has no correlation to the previous 3 steps. It's pretty much the first act of a story and then the ending, there's no second or third act to speak of.

You'd never look at the 10-ish minutes you played to get to the birthday party and assume you were at the finale of the story, it's the first (and only) major progression point you get and sets itself up to be where the routes are supposed to begin developing but the game just throws you at the ending task instead.

Now I'm also curious what you mean with "very little is finished". What's unfinished? I feel like I had dealt with everything. Could it have been more fleshed out? Sure. But is it unfinished? As far as I know, it isn't. But the game is big and has a lot of paths, so please let me know, maybe I missed some stuff.

I'm not opposed to adding new content that fleshes stuff out more some time in the future.
This is much harder to express properly because you have a glaringly different perspective on the content apparently.

I can't really point to anything in the game and view it as finished, every single event line just ends abruptly and they aren't fleshed out, nothing actually resolves outside the very intrusive endings, and the map is a whole other monster of redundancies and unused locations. Even the post-game scenes are worded like setup for follow-up scenes that don't exist.

If you skip the arbitrary grind and wait times each route takes less than 20 minutes to do all the content available to it (the majority of which doesn't change between routes). Artificial time gating and redundant content doesn't make the game bigger, this game is very short when you cut the fat off it and there's not a lot of replay value when so little of the content is actually tied to the routes themselves.

And it's just 3 routes with a few very minor branch variations in total, and the very half-baked bimbo route which is disconnected from everything and is even shorter than the normal routes.
 
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Yes, Sheroni Girls will get more updates from now on. But I'm also going to start working on a smaller side project starting next month. More info about that can be read on my blog.
How the heck do you work on multiple games at a time?
I tried but I start forgetting planned content and variables and my notes aren't always enough. :')
 

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so whats new in the new update. Tried to load my old save, didnt seem like there was anything new in that one..
 

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Hm. Regarding endings, there doesn't seem to be any way to keep Hiromi as she she is if you want anything other than a "bad" ending with Jeff in the drivers seat. That seems like such as waste. A suggestion?

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Some bits that didn't quite gel for me: There was no way to live with both Jenny and Hiromi. If the affection is there, that seemed like a pretty decent move more mutual safety and fun.

The relationship with Hiromi doesn't evolve, like, at all. It may have been a bug, but living with her still basically treated the situation like strangers most of the time. This feels very strange for effectively seeking refuge with her, the two of you against the world.

For example, there are the many times you are dealing with nightmares from Jeff's manipulations, ala the sex dreams. Hiro or Hiromi wouldn't just leave you screaming and alone in that situation. Heck, a slooty MC could ask Hiro to bang them so hard they can't even think of Jeff. Ah, the power of love. And lube.

It feels like a missed opportunity to delve into further and further bouts of debauchery with Hiromi, too, especially when she is stricken with cocklust due to high corruption. Why no option to join in for the fun? If she's living with you, then you are together, after all, so the affection would still be a factor.

All in all, it was a fun game, and while I certainly would have liked to see some aspects get a bit more fleshed out, it's wonderful to see it finish on your own terms. Congratulations, that was no small achievement!
 
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RobotTrashcan

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Hmm. Got to agree with some of the criticisms, grinding doesn't make the game bigger. Having played most of the content in previous versions, seeing endings suddenly is kinda shocking.

THAT SAID, better than all of that is seeing a "Completed" tag on another game from an indie dev. Actually kinda amazing. So many have a seed of an idea for a game, but then it grows into an unwieldy monster with EVERY other idea the dev has ever had stuffed into it as well. Then because resolving all the ideas would take a million years, the dev quits.

This suffered a LITTLE from idea creep, but it was actually mostly lofty ambitions that turned into a grind-fest (a sexy sexy grind fest, the corruption, and the resistance to the corruption were GREAT. MC's continued insitance that "I'm not a girl!" was REALLY hot in this game). I am so happy it's a complete game, no matter the end result. DragaX needs to be proud AF. The most important step of creating art (stay with me here) is completing it. Because the end result will NEVER be perfect to the artist, but every subsequent work will be better than the last, and the only way to move on to the next piece is to FINISH the current one.

Congrats DragaX. Can't wait to see where you'll go from here (away from html/rpgm games?)!
 

DragaX

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Thank you, now I get what you mean. It's true, the main story really does come short. There is so much time being wasted on working to get the systems, the life-sim elements and random side content done that there wasn't much time left to properly work on anything else.
I do probably have a different perspective on the things since I have worked on this game for close to 3 years now and I think the game is huge. But I don't have much experience in how big the game actually is, since I never really played the game from start to finish. There is just no time for that (I only played through parts of it over and over again for playtesting).

When I started working on it, I alway hated life sim games because of how generic and boring they were. And I wanted to do something different. Turns out, it's very ambitious and way too much work for one person. That's why I will focus on more story and character focused games in the future, I just realized that I like to do these much more.

How the heck do you work on multiple games at a time?
I tried but I start forgetting planned content and variables and my notes aren't always enough. :')
I always write a ton of stuff down before I even start working on the game. It's also very useful to know if you already know what your ending is going to look like. This way it's easier to write the stuff inbetween. I need to work on more than one game or I will get burned out fast.

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Congrats DragaX. Can't wait to see where you'll go from here (away from html/rpgm games?)!
Thank you. That's always one of my goals when I start to work on a new project; To actually finish it.
For now I will stay with html and rpg maker but I also have at least one project planned that I will try to do with Renpy, it's still far away in the future though.

Also, thanks to everyone else who posted suggestions. Like I'm said, I'm not opposed to extending and fleshing out the game some time in the future but right now I'm just tired of it and want to move on.
 
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I'm happy to see it finished but also sad. I thought the corruption mechanic in this game was surprisingly fun. And I really enjoyed the game. The content was good and the gifs are super hot. The fact that Hiromi could get corrupted too was really fun for me. Thanks for finishing it up even though the content that might get fleshed out in the future could be even more sporadic. I appreciate it nonetheless. Great game.
 
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