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Geralt From Rivia

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You're right, but they're really overreacting and making negative wibe impacting developers; this is a thread where logically people should like the game, because objectively it has not become worse, renderings have not become grainy or dialogs have not become engrish-style.
Ikr. Zone is full of low iq keyboard diahrea. There is criticism and "criticism".
Yesterday one user posted a mathematical analysis of the rendering speed in 0.5/0.6, and in 0.6 it is almost twice as slow - with the previous speed of work this update would have been completed in 5 months. Today I want to unren the game archive and see if the developers have increased the resolution of renders/animations frame rate . Because I don't see any other logical reasons for the slowdown - math doesn't lie. Never.
Despite the fact that I am disappointed, I will not add R&N to my "bad radar". Such an incident with one update is an accident, with two - a coincidence, with three - a pattern, after which you can hang the label of milking, but not now. We will see.
 

CoomerKing

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If I was a monthly paying subscriber for the dev, I'd be a little bit disappointed in this update. But, I'm not. So thanks to the developers for putting effort into this update, the visuals were stunning as usual.

Until the next update!
 

CaneVolante

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hi guys I need help, on Kate's bed the MC received mom's text message but I can't reply or write anything, the game is stucked, any suggestions?
 

Abhai

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Ikr. Zone is full of low iq keyboard diahrea. There is criticism and "criticism".
Yesterday one user posted a mathematical analysis of the rendering speed in 0.5/0.6, and in 0.6 it is almost twice as slow - with the previous speed of work this update would have been completed in 5 months. Today I want to unren the game archive and see if the developers have increased the resolution of renders/animations frame rate . Because I don't see any other logical reasons for the slowdown - math doesn't lie. Never.
Despite the fact that I am disappointed, I will not add R&N to my "bad radar". Such an incident with one update is an accident, with two - a coincidence, with three - a pattern, after which you can hang the label of milking, but not now. We will see.
if you are waiting for such "pattern" (aka 3 updates for a slow developing, milking, whatever game), you will be (most probably) waiting for 5 years...at that time confirming "pattern" will be fairly pointless thing:HideThePain:

regarding 0.6v, as expected majority of players seem to be dissapoined with it, mostly due to ratio developing time/content.
pollishing is a hell - it took 4+months, so damn polish is to blame:BootyTime:
 

wizardcock

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For future progress updates every Friday, I would recommend saying at the beginning how long the update will take, for example 3 or 4 months. and then I would set a number in advance of how many renders there will be or say in the middle of the development time how many renders have already been completed so that no one can complain later.

My Conclusion on the update:

I really liked the last update, slow progress some complain but it's not realistic to let the other main girls suck MC's penis on the second day and we are going in the right direction with Kate, she wants to throw MC out of the camp because she runs the risk of developing romantic feelings for MC.

But what leaves me wondering why did 0.5 have 3600 renders with 11 months of development time and 0.6 had 1800 renders with 10 months, when in my opinion 0.5 had the much more demanding and difficult locations and scenes to make, for example in the pool or in the Freya club.

0.4 had 1200 renders and had 3 months of development time. It would be nice to hear something from the developers about how the different render numbers happened. In the end I can only say I hope the months long wait for a new update is now over and maybe we'll get another update in December, who knows.
The plot twist with Kate is probably the best moment of the update in terms of plot. The added element of sadness for the main character to see the last 2 days of his girls, and at the same time the hope that it can be fixed somehow.
You rightly point out that it's an interesting move for the relationship with Kate, she's playing unavailable and willing to even kick the protagonist out, which is supposedly indicative of greater feelings than just lust (I hope)

Ikr. Zone is full of low iq keyboard diahrea. There is criticism and "criticism".
Yesterday one user posted a mathematical analysis of the rendering speed in 0.5/0.6, and in 0.6 it is almost twice as slow - with the previous speed of work this update would have been completed in 5 months. Today I want to unren the game archive and see if the developers have increased the resolution of renders/animations frame rate . Because I don't see any other logical reasons for the slowdown - math doesn't lie. Never.
Despite the fact that I am disappointed, I will not add R&N to my "bad radar". Such an incident with one update is an accident, with two - a coincidence, with three - a pattern, after which you can hang the label of milking, but not now. We will see.
My friend, there may have been some flaws in the planning. Mb they wanted to do more but nothing worked, then they cut it off. It was impossible to shorten the update, because first they did part of one scene, then part of another ( so inconsistent)
There may be some other complexities.
I think now there will do small updates like update per 3 month. I don't know how the paid patrons reacted, but it probably wasn't very good either, so yeah, a little update with a couple of lewd scenes is what's coming next, I guess.
 
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Bobbos

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I've been thinking a bit about this update since my last post and the pessimist in me feels that this might be the beginning of the end of the game. All the negative reactions in this thread (which are imho justified so don't get me wrong) won't help with the devs motivation and here comes my optimist side into play.

My optimist view of all of this is that the drop in dev speed wasn't for malicious reasons like wanting to milk their Patreons but for loss of motivation/burnout reasons and if that is the case then things can get better and hopefully will get better.

We all know that their renders are great and that their characters are gorgeous and we also know that they can work at a good speed because they have shown us that they can with the past updates.

And now to a suggestion for the devs: You guys really need to cut down a bit on the superfluous renders.
The scene of Ms. Hill cooking and stroking the cucumber was great because it showed the player that Ms. Hill might have some conflicting and dirty thoughts about the MC but all the other renders of the cooking after that were just unnecessary.
Also that little animation of the camera panning over the body of Bree in the bedroom of Ms. Hill was nice but again unnecessary.

Do those little things make the game better? Yes they do but they also cost time and effort to make.
And if you ever want to finish this game in a somewhat timely manner then you might want to cut down on stuff like this.

I really hope that this was just an exception and you guys will get back to a good form for the next update.
Summer Heat is imho one of the top 1% of AVNs, it is rare for such a high quality AVN to even appear and it has the potential to blow the majority of other AVN out of the water it just needs to get actually finished for that to happen :)
 
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spammermail76

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I don't usually comment, but this was the game I was looking forward to the most, I thought it would be a great update since this is a whole year before it comes out. However, this update sucked. You get pretty much no storyline with any of the girls, you wake up and go to the woods. Update done. Ain't no way a whole year went by and all they accomplished was this. Tough.
 

ItsNotUs

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for some of you that wanted math, here's some math:

the number of paid subs tripled over the last year, meanwhile the update is half the size of the previous one. how about that for some math?
These numbers have increased due to the last update, let's look at what happens after this and judging by many of the reactions, everyone knows what to expect!
 

Geralt From Rivia

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if you are waiting for such "pattern" (aka 3 updates for a slow developing, milking, whatever game), you will be (most probably) waiting for 5 years...at that time confirming "pattern" will be fairly pointless thing:HideThePain:

regarding 0.6v, as expected majority of players seem to be dissapoined with it, mostly due to ratio developing time/content.
pollishing is a hell - it took 4+months, so damn polish is to blame:BootyTime:
Having some Polish blood inside me, I declare that I am not involved in this "polishing".:ROFLMAO:
I know, and for some games that I really like I giving the free pass for some long pace, means I'm ready to wait. In Summer Heat case, I'm not sure. Some games with 10 month and more cycles gave me 4 hours of gameplay just for one run and great emotions. Here I managed for 90 mins to open everything.
My friend, there may have been some flaws in the planning. Mb they wanted to do more but nothing worked, then they cut it off. It was impossible to shorten the update, because first they did part of one scene, then part of another ( so inconsistent)
There may be some other complexities.
I think now there will do small updates like update per 3 month. I don't know how the paid patrons reacted, but it probably wasn't very good either, so yeah, a little update with a couple of lewd scenes is what's coming next, I guess.
The only real, respectable reasons here are: some kind of incident that knocked both developers out for several months, electrical blackouts, death of loved ones, etc., serious illness. Now there are many questions without answers.
 

sdn2603

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I still have have hope that this update is a joke or something like that and we’ll have some answers today. What about the previews we saw? Are they in this update ?
 
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jemmylyn

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When you like a game, project you'll be happy with any new content, conversations, new hugs with Bree ( because that's game style).

I want to see more of it too. But what is there is what is there. Like I said before, 2-2.5 years is the time frame when many developers slow down. This needs to be accepted as a fact, because there are many such cases.


I think it's about inflated expectations. Because the content is the same level as before.

i think the audience must set more stringent standards for development time, otherwise this fashion for "long updates\small amount of content" will never end, and will only get worse.

what is happening with the development of AVNs now is nonsense. I have personally done HQ 3D rendering sets in cinematigraphic-story manner with sound design and everything and I know how long it takes to create such content. An update like the one we had today for Summer Heat, can be done in 2-3 months by a single person without critical efforts.

i'm not saying that these specific devs are milkers. Maybe not, maybe Summer Heat is just an addition to their main job\activities and they simply don’t have much time\desire for this project, which is why the last update so small. Or maybe there are some other respectable reasons for delaying. However, in light of the last update, if i were the patron of these devs, i would think before paying them again, because this payment could potentially lead to the cultivation of a new milker (in case if the last update not a milking strategy already, i hope it's not)
 

ssam123

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Only thing I can say after this update is WTF, when I asked in the tread is this dev a milkar or not some j****s PPL defended him.
But after this update I can definitely say he will be like xenorav.
Only thing I'm happy is that there are less Kate hill fans which means we can see her sences in couples year if the dev continues with this phase.
 

ItsNotUs

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i think the audience must set more stringent standards for development time, otherwise this fashion for "long updates\small amount of content" will never end, and will only get worse.

what is happening with the development of AVNs now is nonsense. I have personally done HQ 3D rendering sets in cinematigraphic-story manner with sound design and everything and I know how long it takes to create such content. An update like the one we had today for Summer Heat, can be done in 2-3 months by a single person without critical efforts.

i'm not saying that these specific devs are milkers. Maybe not, maybe Summer Heat is just an addition to their main job\activities and they simply don’t have much time\desire for this project, which is why the last update so small. Or maybe there are some other respectable reasons for delaying. However, in light of the last update, if i were the patron of these devs, i would think before paying them again, because this payment could potentially lead to the cultivation of a new milker (in case if the last update not a milking strategy already, i hope it's not)
I don’t want to question your words, but 1600 renderings, scripts, text, animations for 1 person in 3 months, as for me, this is not realistic if he is not a robot!
 
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