Ren'Py Completed Summer with Mia [S1 v1.5.2 Steam] [Inceton]

[Genji]

My comments are strictly for this game. So until that content are included in this game I will consider this as a non-NTR game with some very light NTR elements in this game. So far for me, it's not off putting at all and I say that as someone that in general does not like NTR.

I do agree with Bacchus that people are far to quick to add the NTR tag for games containing no NTR and that people then dismiss these games since they can not handle other characters besides the MC having sex. There are several games, especially games by HoneyGames, where there are a lot of sex that the MC is not involved in (implied or onscreen) but that is not actually close to NTR.

It removes a whole chunk of story telling potential, having people stripping out any detail that can be interpreted as NTR from their games.

There is a difference between cheating fetish and using an instance of cheating as part of your story plot. Betrayal in a game can be an powerful plotline in a story without it being an NTR fetish. It can lead to powerful emotional redemption arcs, by either the MC or his lover. Boiling it down to an NTR fetish, for me is a very simplified and uninspiring approach.

Most people hate ntr because they put themselves in the mc place,so when they see their current love interest(eventhough a character)cucking the mc in the game,they mostly will feel betrayed about it.In the end,they will delete the game.As for this game,because of how heavily the ntr in the previous game,people usually will just implied this game have ntr because of the previous one.Thats why most people not interested with this game anymore.It doesnt matter if the game have a good storyline or redemption arc,if the girls in the story betray the mc or acting such a slut,most people will leave the game immediately eventhough it just a quest.

 

[cxx]

I don't see an option to skip text can that be fixed ?

press ctrl.

 

[Gundams]

press ctrl.

seems like I can't do it for texts that I haven't read

 

[cxx]

try tabulator

 

[neekleer]

RPGM version felt like a fuller game. I guess this one is all about showcasing the main story.

 

[cxx]

RPGM version felt like a fuller game. I guess this one is all about showcasing the main story.

we'll see but that extra content came from sidequests (mc and mia).

 

[Gundams]

try tabulator

just tried tab and ctrl doesn't work and I used the code to remove the ads

 

[demidemon]

Well my definition of NTR is what NTR actually is; when a man is forced ....

Just saying.. NTR/Netorare (seldom used as netorari here) is a Japanese word and most japanese hentai sites classify Netorare into three types (A, B and C):

Type A
The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

Type B
Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

Type C
The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish.

I just hope we either stick to the definitions to avoid further confusions or simply use cuckold/cheating/adultry etc instead of using NTR (which ppl in this forum are still using their own guess about this word)

 

[tramtoriana54]

password for a laptop?

 

[Alfius]

Just saying.. NTR/Netorare (seldom used as netorari here) is a Japanese word and most japanese hentai sites classify Netorare into three types (A, B and C):

Type A
The heroine is willingly cheating on the protagonist with another guy and enjoys every second of it. No rape, blackmail, drugs etc. involved, it's consensual sex from the very beginning.

Type B
Initially, the heroine is raped, blackmailed, drugged or otherwise tricked to have sex with someone other than the protagonist. However, she eventually starts enjoying it and the sex becomes fully consensual in the end.

Type C
The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish.

I just hope we either stick to the definitions to avoid further confusions or simply use cuckold/cheating/adultry etc instead of using NTR (which ppl in this forum are still using their own guess about this word)

I do believe my definition covers all 3 types.

"Your current love interest start having sex with a rival due to cheating/blackmail/corruption etc. causing the player to become jealous."

It explains it from the Player (MC) POV without taking the girl (love interest) feelings or consent into account. Maybe I could add rape to my list of reasons (cheating/blackmail/corruption/rape)

 

[cxx]

siblings aren't in love yet nor weren't in rpgm version when mia did sidequests (or at least not totally in love).

 

[bongopt]

I must be missing something really obvious. Right at the beginning Mia is playing some console game, you help her and think "ok off to the bathroom". I go there and nothing happens, nothing to interact with, can't do anything else anywhere.

 

[cavaemon]

I do believe my definition covers all 3 types.

"Your current love interest start having sex with a rival due to cheating/blackmail/corruption etc. causing the player to become jealous."

It explains it from the Player (MC) POV without taking the girl (love interest) feelings into or consent into account. Maybe I could add rape to my list of reasons (cheating/blackmail/corruption/rape)

i dont care much about this argument but is the ntr optional and or avoidable? if not I don't want anything to do with this game if NO ONE in the game is enjoying. im out as soon as the love interest is fucked by some old piece of shit or some fat wad or both. sorry but that shit is foul and it takes real depravity to go that far.
OR if its just a scene im down as long as that get justified as the one doing the ntr gets karma'ed. i dont mind games having ntr but if its just a scene and it somehow gets a "justified" ending to that genre whatevs but not to keen on heavy ntr so if my character is being ntred NO. if im ntring then cool but uh wouldnt mind having the chick be done in by that if the other guy is a douche... like really im down with ALL characters fuckin but it cant have the guy im playing being kicked in the balls with bad vibes and the girl feeling like shit... just no.

 

[Genji]

i dont care much about this argument but is the ntr optional and or avoidable? if not I don't want anything to do with this game if NO ONE in the game is enjoying. im out as soon as the love interest is fucked by some old piece of shit or some fat wad or both. sorry but that shit is foul and it takes real depravity to go that far.
OR if its just a scene im down as long as that get justified as the one doing the ntr gets karma'ed. i dont mind games having ntr but if its just a scene and it somehow gets a "justified" ending to that genre whatevs but not to keen on heavy ntr so if my character is being ntred NO. if im ntring then cool but uh wouldnt mind having the chick be done in by that if the other guy is a douche... like really im down with ALL characters fuckin but it cant have the guy im playing being kicked in the balls with bad vibes and the girl feeling like shit... just no.

check the op,if you dont mind sharing your girl with everyone,this game is definitely for you,based from the previous game that heavily ntr,i dont think you will like a girl that already fuck a dog and having sex with a bunch of people while in relationship.the ntr part is part of quest.its avoidable but its part of story.

 

[Alfius]

i dont care much about this argument but is the ntr optional and or avoidable?
if not I don't want anything to do with this game if NO ONE in the game is enjoying. im out as soon as the love interest is fucked by some old piece of shit or some fat wad or both. sorry but that shit is foul and it takes real depravity to go that far.
OR if its just a scene im down as long as that get justified as the one doing the ntr gets karma'ed. i dont mind games having ntr but if its just a scene and it somehow gets a "justified" ending to that genre whatevs but not to keen on heavy ntr so if my character is being ntred NO. if im ntring then cool but uh wouldnt mind having the chick be done in by that if the other guy is a douche... like really im down with ALL characters fuckin but it cant have the guy im playing being kicked in the balls with bad vibes and the girl feeling like shit... just no.

I'm not sure about everything you are trying to say here, but I think I get the gist of it.
I think my feelings on NTR is similar then yours. I can take a bit of NTR, but it's definitely not my thing.

If I understand you correctly, then I think this game will be fine for you.

There is VERY light elements of NTR (But even that is debatable if it's really NTR.) These elements that was in this story did not bother me one bit. So to conclude, I think you will be fine.

Please note that I'm purely speaking on the Renpy version. I have not played the RPGM Version.

Genji played the RPGM version and from the looks of it, it completely traumatised him as he keeps on rambling about how Mia fucked every man and his dog in that version. I have not played that version, but it sounds like there were some side quests were Mia could do shit like that. I would not put too much stock in his words as he is not evaluating the Renpy version and seems to think that NTR is an inevitable outcome of the game. From what I have seen so far, that is not how I see it.

So to answer you in detail:

i dont care much about this argument but is the ntr optional and or avoidable?

There is very light NTR in the game that is not avoidable. It did not bother me one bit and I don't think it will bother you too much. The MC is partly responsible for this happening and at no time does Mia prefer to be with someone else.

im out as soon as the love interest is fucked by some old piece of shit or some fat wad or both. sorry but that shit is foul and it takes real depravity to go that far.

This does not happen at all so far. There is some optional scenes with Mia and her dad that can be avoided. I actually did these just to check them out and it turned out to be funny as hell. But it can be completely avoided. The dad is not into Mia at all, she actually tricks him into some situations. Again optional

OR if its just a scene im down as long as that get justified as the one doing the ntr gets karma'ed. i dont mind games having ntr but if its just a scene and it somehow gets a "justified" ending to that genre whatevs but not to keen on heavy ntr so if my character is being ntred NO.

There is just 2 scenes out of I think around 20 other sex scenes, that can possible considered NTR. Even those scene are very light by any definition, and not even considered NTR by some.

if im ntring then cool but uh wouldnt mind having the chick be done in by that if the other guy is a douche... like really im down with ALL characters fuckin but it cant have the guy im playing being kicked in the balls with bad vibes and the girl feeling like shit... just no.

I think you would be good with this.


TLDR; It seems like you see NTR very similar too myself. I would definitely recommend you playing Mia. I actually enjoyed it a lot.

 

[cavaemon]

I'm not sure about everything you are trying to say here, but I think I get the gist of it.
I think my feelings on NTR is similar then yours. I can take a bit of NTR, but it's definitely not my thing.

If I understand you correctly, then I think this game will be fine for you.

There is VERY light elements of NTR (But even that is debatable if it's really NTR.) These elements that was in this story did not bother me one bit. So to conclude, I think you will be fine.

Please note that I'm purely speaking on the Renpy version. I have not played the RPGM Version.

Genji played the RPGM version and from the looks of it, it completely traumatised him as he keeps on rambling about how Mia fucked every man and his dog in that version. I have not played that version, but it sounds like there were some side quests were Mia could do shit like that. I would not put too much stock in his words as he is not evaluating the Renpy version and seems to think that NTR is an inevitable outcome of the game. From what I have seen so far, that is not how I see it.

So to answer you in detail:


There is very light NTR in the game that is not avoidable. It did not bother me one bit and I don't think it will bother you too much. The MC is partly responsible for this happening and at no time does Mia prefer to be with someone else.


This does not happen at all so far. There is some optional scenes with Mia and her dad that can be avoided. I actually did these just to check them out and it turned out to be funny as hell. But it can be completely avoided. The dad is not into Mia at all, she actually tricks him into some situations. Again optional


There is just 2 scenes out of I think around 20 other sex scenes, that can possible considered NTR. Even those scene are very light by any definition, and not even considered NTR by some.


I think you would be good with this.


TLDR; It seems like you see NTR very similar too myself. I would definitely recommend you playing Mia. I actually enjoyed it a lot.

... that's pretty spot on then. I guess ill give it a go but like I said I cant get off on bad vibes so even tho im gonna play the current version I will skip or drop it if its too much. I mean I get it if its a story element like guy gets even for his girl but if guy cant get even and its cuck central then im out its got to have a silver line you know? lol I actually am glad you get me and not blowing smoke I like the dev ive been playing his other game and im a huge fan of harem and vanilla genres esp if its got impreg so its not like im coming in to this with no love but hehe yeah im surprised he did a game with this ntr genre.

 

[Alfius]

... that's pretty spot on then. I guess ill give it a go but like I said I cant get off on bad vibes so even tho im gonna play the current version I will skip or drop it if its too much. I mean I get it if its a story element like guy gets even for his girl but if guy cant get even and its cuck central then im out its got to have a silver line you know? lol I actually am glad you get me and not blowing smoke I like the dev ive been playing his other game and im a huge fan of harem and vanilla genres esp if its got impreg so its not like im coming in to this with no love but hehe yeah im surprised he did a game with this ntr genre.

Let me know how it turns out for you. It's not for everyone's taste, but IMO NTR would not be the main reason to not like the game. The conduct of the MC is questionable at time, but event that, although pushing some boundries, I found to be within limits.

Enjoy!

 

[Manifold]

... that's pretty spot on then. I guess ill give it a go but like I said I cant get off on bad vibes so even tho im gonna play the current version I will skip or drop it if its too much. I mean I get it if its a story element like guy gets even for his girl but if guy cant get even and its cuck central then im out its got to have a silver line you know? lol I actually am glad you get me and not blowing smoke I like the dev ive been playing his other game and im a huge fan of harem and vanilla genres esp if its got impreg so its not like im coming in to this with no love but hehe yeah im surprised he did a game with this ntr genre.

What about dildos? Are dildos considered NTR? Big, fat dildos that the MC watches his momma and sis sticking up their pussies and asses? Do all these delicate souls out there consider that as NTR? The MC being cheated on by a dildo?

Next extremely important question that some people absolutely need to know even before trying out the game for themselves, because otherwise they might not sleep at night, or suffer from a nervous breakdown:

Panties? A girl who puts panties on, that will necessarily rub against her vagina, is that too much for you? You really want her for yourself? You can't suffer the idea of having your blood-related sister cheating on you with a pair of panties she's wearing?

Stay tuned, coz these conversations about NTR are fascinating, even religious nuts seem less possessive about their women than some of these lunatics out there on this thread!

For Christ sake, this is simply a nice, innocent little porn story about a MC fucking his sister and mom, and yes, sometimes needs the help of his moron friend to get what he wants. Period. We're not talking about Kirsess' games, or even The Tyrant. Its light-hearted, funny, silly. Just try the goddamn game, I assure you, you won't die from the so-called "NTR" in this particular version of the game.

 

[Genji]

for now it might be mild,but im not suprised if the game end up heavily ntr later,its the continuation from the previous act after all...dont be dissapointed after this*smoking
Manifold she already cheating in the previous game,this is act 3

 

[Hysni]

Sorry NTR with MAKE THIS GAME CRAP Hope Dev doest add that tag with ruin it