VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[KekWGgWP]

I think everything is not so simple between Nami and Nika and their past. Have you played Nami's route in Chapter 5? Their final dialogue when the MC kisses her is very confusing. He's afraid she's playing games with him and says their past doesn't make it any easier now as if she's done something similar in the past. He warns her that if she plays now, it will be end of any relationship between them, she will become a ghost to him. And their conversation earlier at Vic's, when he warns her he is going to tell Amber something about them. This is a vague topic, but it came up twice in Chapter 4.5.

Judging by her acting and composition if you answer to her feelings, Nami tends to get pretty jealous of other girls, maybe it has something to do with that?

I wouldn't be surprised if Nami tried to get between MC and Summer's relationship out of jealousy at some point, maybe that's what he meant by playing games.

Maybe she has a habit of stirring things up with other women from MC's life, it doesn't help that she's also pretty possessive when comes to him which isn't a very good thing when comes to relationships, or maybe i'm just wrong i don't know, i'm just speculating.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Judging by her acting and composition if you answer to her feelings, Nami tends to get pretty jealous of other girls, maybe it has something to do with that?

I wouldn't be surprised if Nami tried to get between MC and Summer's relationship out of jealousy at some point, maybe that's what he meant by playing games.

Maybe she has a habit of stirring things up with other women from MC's life, it doesn't help that she's also pretty possessive when comes to him which isn't a very good thing when comes to relationships, or maybe i'm just wrong i don't know, i'm just speculating.

Nami SWAT'd MC&Summer's cabin date as a prank. SWAT busted in through the door and rappelled down the chimney and shot up the place, collapsing MC's lungs in the process. Summer hid in the corner and was eaten by spiders. Nami watched from a nearby hill eating Kaiser rolls.

 

[seniorboop]

Damn, I thought the update was mid but im surprised at how negative its reception has been.

The weighted rating has dropped so low it's one or two low score reviews away from joining the page 4 and beyond dregs.

 

[idontdreamwhenisleep69]

Damn, I thought the update was mid but im surprised at how negative its reception has been.

The weighted rating has dropped so low it's one or two low score reviews away from joining the page 4 and beyond dregs.

What can ya do. A bunch of haters review bombed the game with 1 star reviews.

 

[John972]

What can ya do. A bunch of haters review bombed the game with 1 star reviews.

I must admit, I am surprised by the amount of negative reviews after this last update, simply because visual depictions of the MC's cock have been removed from the game. /s

 

[Nikko_]

The game is fair in that it tells you there are no sex scenes. But I was still hoping for a scene with Bella. Honestly, for her and the MC to not even try is already falling into unrealistic territory. Chances are MC will only have sex once(once for every path/ LI) by the time this game is over. With the logic being he finally got it up for his "true love".

 

[John972]

This is why I called Ocean an excellent artist, and Regium an excellent director.

???? [I've moved on from this 'cause we were originally debating about a patently false premise concerning Regium. Regium made a bunch of renders and maybe did some coding, dude, nothing more]

You went in the wrong direction. And this problem is false, because MC has no problems. The thing is that Ocean didn’t think through the plot and that’s why we are faced with such stupidity.

???? [I'll add that the statement above is not worthy of any response]

Doctors' salaries start at $200,000 and can easily exceed half a million or more. Although let's forget about this and remember the plot. Do you remember that Zara's father is a millionaire? Do you think he will be treated in a cheap clinic for the poor or choose the best one with professional doctors? Here's your answer.
Why did you decide that Nojiko lives in a middle class neighborhood? Although with all these alterations by Ocean, you probably forgot how Bella was making fun of the MC and the place where he lives.

Doctors' salaries (where you live)....? Hey, this AVN is crap because all the cars drive on the wrong side of the road! /s

'try checking salaries in Germany, since I reasonably assume that would be Ocean's frame of reference. Average doctor's salary = approx $110,000, apparently.

Nojiko works at a hospital. It could be public, we just don't know. An MC dialogue specifically references that Nojiko hates working at that hospital and wishes she could open a private practice (which, naturally, could bring in more $$).

Nick had a bad fuckin' motorcycle accident. Why do you assume the attending ambulance staff ran a credit check and Google search on Nick before deciding what hospital to take him to? It's reasonable that they took him to a public hospital A&E and not some boutique private clinic.

The only hospital mentioned by name in SG is Aqualia Hospital, where Victoria and the MC were admitted after their accidents. The way Nami asked the MC if Vic was at Aqualia implies there's more than one hospital in the city. Nothing in the game so far implies that Nojiko works at Aqualia.

Middle class? Yeah, that's subjective and not implicitly stated in the game. However, Nojiko apparently owns her own home, has a car, has a career, and is putting two kids through college. That sounds pretty middle class to me. Compare that to Mila's family for reference...

Bella or any other rich snob calling the MC "poor?" Jeez, surely you see those insults for what they are, right? It's a trope for rich people to call those not fortunate enough to have a house with five bathrooms, a swimming pool, many cars, and a holiday home in The Hamptons "poor".

We could pick apart EVERY AVN on F95 looking for trivial things to "prove" the story is unrealistic. Yet, many of those trying probably watch Marvel movies without batting an eyelid, I bet.

 

[John972]

Judging by her acting and composition if you answer to her feelings, Nami tends to get pretty jealous of other girls, maybe it has something to do with that?

I wouldn't be surprised if Nami tried to get between MC and Summer's relationship out of jealousy at some point, maybe that's what he meant by playing games.

Maybe she has a habit of stirring things up with other women from MC's life, it doesn't help that she's also pretty possessive when comes to him which isn't a very good thing when comes to relationships, or maybe i'm just wrong i don't know, i'm just speculating.

Chapters 4.5 and 5 reveal that Nami had a nastier personality previously, as referenced in the MC's conversations with Nia and Nami [for Chapter 5, these conversations depend on choices made in the game - kiss Nami and visit Nia]

Spoiler: Chapter 4.5: MC conversation with Nami

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Spoiler: Chapter 5: MC conversation with Nami

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Spoiler: Chapter 5: MC conversation with Nia

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So, we have "the incident". Many people think the MC's accident with the collapsed lungs has something to do with Summer's disappearance. I am not so sure at this stage... it could have something to do with Nami, post-disappearance.

 

[yossa999]

mom-son content?

Yep, Aziz and his mom, Molly, are bying pizza.
But if you mean sexual content, then there is no such thing in the game between any pair of characters yet.

 

[Ayhsel]

Remember people.. SG world is not the real world.
It is possible than many things dont work like real world. So, take what you see within the novel and extrapolate only with caution.

 

[Meushi]

Last time I remember it had incest tag

Yes this thread used to have the incest tag, because in the earlier releases Nika & Nami were siblings in game (same parents).

There has never been any actual incestuous content in this game, because there's been no sex.

These days Ocean says SG has no incest and never will. That's what the patch is for.

 

[yossa999]

Judging by her acting and composition if you answer to her feelings, Nami tends to get pretty jealous of other girls, maybe it has something to do with that?

I wouldn't be surprised if Nami tried to get between MC and Summer's relationship out of jealousy at some point, maybe that's what he meant by playing games.

Maybe she has a habit of stirring things up with other women from MC's life, it doesn't help that she's also pretty possessive when comes to him which isn't a very good thing when comes to relationships, or maybe i'm just wrong i don't know, i'm just speculating.

Absolutely agree. There are two sides of Nami that cast a slight shadow on the shining image of the ideal girlfriend for the MC that we see at the beginning of the game.

The first thing was summed up perfectly by John972, Nami had clearly done something in the past that hit the MC hard. It is also clear that she has changed, but the fear that she will return to her old self is bugging the MC.

But what exactly she did is unclear, and we can only speculate. She may have been trying to break up MC and Summer, and since they were friends, she dragged her on dates with other guys, trying to set her up with some jerk and hence the MC's constant fighting at school. Or maybe she was so desperate that she played the "I love you and I'll kill myself if you reject me" card. But when he returned her feelings, she chickened out and started gathering assholes around her to stop the MC from trying to go further in their relationship. Typical teenage drama queen behavior.

Damn, I both love and hate it when Ocean plays "Lost", making up mysteries and herding the red herrings. But there is a high risk that in the end the answers will turn out to be as retarded as in the “Lost” finale.

The second thing is, as you correctly pointed out, Nami seems to be very jealous type, even more than Bella. Moreover, it seems to me that she will absolutely calmly accept the physical intimacy of the MC with other girls, she may even encourage him to have a threesome, but she is very jealous of any emotional connection with anyone other than her.

As you follow Nami's path, she constantly keeps an eye on Zara in chapter 5. When Zara sits on MC's neck, Nami immediately asks with displeasure what she is doing? Later, at Nick's house, when Zara is left alone with the MC for a while, Nami again displeasedly asks her if she is going to help unpack their things to take her away from the MC. All this doesn't happen if MC is cold to Nami and not on her path.

Another funny moment. Whenever I play Bella's route, when Nami asks how serious the MC is about Bella, I always answer, "I'm starting to fall for her." This obviously hurts Nami, but she quickly regains her composure and diverts attention by cracking a joke about "romance and fisting". And she says she will help the MC and Bella is in for a treat. But suddenly I tried another answer “Just the right amount, duh.” and Nami didn’t seem hurt much, she sincerely said that she would help the MC with romance and petting, and the girls are in for a treat.

 

[AlexFXR]

I am saying Nojiko can be a normal doctor working in a small local hospital. and I don't think Nick is looking for the most expensive and high-class hospital after getting in an accident. I don't know where you are from, but for me, Nojiko's status is accurate for the details we know about her so far: She has a normal house, a normal car, and can afford two kids college expenses.

Does it matter what hospital Nojiko works at? I wrote about an ordinary doctor; unique specialists get much more. In the story, Nick ended up in a hospital where they couldn’t help him. Ocean presented Nojiko as a highly qualified specialist, superior to other similar doctors. Thanks to her, Nick stopped being disabled.
Your words contradict the plot, it was repeated several times that Nojiko has no money and MC is looking for ways to help her and make her life easier. If Nojiko were a nurse, then I would agree with everything, because their salaries are small. But doctors, and especially such highly qualified specialists like Nojiko, cannot live in poverty.

 

[KekWGgWP]

Absolutely agree. There are two sides of Nami that cast a slight shadow on the shining image of the ideal girlfriend for the MC that we see at the beginning of the game.

The first thing was summed up perfectly by John972, Nami had clearly done something in the past that hit the MC hard. It is also clear that she has changed, but the fear that she will return to her old self is bugging the MC.

But what exactly she did is unclear, and we can only speculate. She may have been trying to break up MC and Summer, and since they were friends, she dragged her on dates with other guys, trying to set her up with some jerk and hence the MC's constant fighting at school. Or maybe she was so desperate that she played the "I love you and I'll kill myself if you reject me" card. But when he returned her feelings, she chickened out and started gathering assholes around her to stop the MC from trying to go further in their relationship. Typical teenage drama queen behavior.

Damn, I both love and hate it when Ocean plays "Lost", making up mysteries and herding the red herrings. But there is a high risk that in the end the answers will turn out to be as retarded as in the “Lost” finale.

The second thing is, as you correctly pointed out, Nami seems to be very jealous type, even more than Bella. Moreover, it seems to me that she will absolutely calmly accept the physical intimacy of the MC with other girls, she may even encourage him to have a threesome, but she is very jealous of any emotional connection with anyone other than her.

As you follow Nami's path, she constantly keeps an eye on Zara in chapter 5. When Zara sits on MC's neck, Nami immediately asks with displeasure what she is doing? Later, at Nick's house, when Zara is left alone with the MC for a while, Nami again displeasedly asks her if she is going to help unpack their things to take her away from the MC. All this doesn't happen if MC is cold to Nami and not on her path.

Another funny moment. Whenever I play Bella's route, when Nami asks how serious the MC is about Bella, I always answer, "I'm starting to fall for her." This obviously hurts Nami, but she quickly regains her composure and diverts attention by cracking a joke about "romance and fisting". And she says she will help the MC and Bella is in for a treat. But suddenly I tried another answer “Just the right amount, duh.” and Nami didn’t seem hurt much, she sincerely said that she would help the MC with romance and petting, and the girls are in for a treat.

Plus she is very interested in MC's personal relationships all the time, always asking him what girl he likes and how much, even though it's none of her business to know any of that which kind of annoys me to be fair, always needs to know everything about his personal affairs and justifying that as "being supportive of him"

She probably changed after MC's trauma but all this tend of her of being possessive and getting jealous is something that hasn't change.

I'm wondering now if she is actually fine with the current mental state MC is in, since he can't have any sexual relationship with anyone which means it's pretty much impossible for him to maintain an intimate relationship, maybe she see this as something good for her in a weird and twisted way.

We will see what will happen after MC manages to get past the trauma and regain his libido, how she will react to that and how she will act.

 

[Ottoeight]

These days Ocean says SG has no incest and never will. That's what the patch is for.

The more the game adds chapters and early chapters are reworked the more this i-thing that Nami and Nika are siblings gets far-fetched.

Does the i-patch make sense? do we need it? even though Nika and Nami aren't siblings, they were raised as such, therefore in the non-patched game any sexual and romantic relationship between them is regarded as forbidden and inconcievable by people around them.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Damn, I thought the update was mid but im surprised at how negative its reception has been.

The weighted rating has dropped so low it's one or two low score reviews away from joining the page 4 and beyond dregs.

Many of us enjoyed this last update.

F95 does not exactly make someone take a quiz to prove that they played the release before they one star the AVN.

There are a lot of alt id's and outright trolls who are, IMO, jealous of Ocean's success and this is their way of trying to show the world that SG isn't very good at all.

I mean - if there is no sex, it Has to be bad, right??

If Mum/Dad has blocked Pornhub/related websites with parental controls, then F95 owes them all the sex they can find and imagine how infuriating it must be for minors to Not get sexy time with Any of the beautiful women that Ocean has provided in Summers Gone.

Boredom + jealousy/hate + anonymity + the immaturity of secondary school//middle school/highschoolers in the U.S. (and F95 has no 'prove you are 18' feature) = ability to crap on a dev with no meaningful consequence.

There is nothing that could stop a group of these trolls from review-bombing any creation on F95.

Many of them have already moved on to show their 'favor' for other devs.

I've added 20+ trolls to my ignore list due to this SG release and I am only seeing 4-5 still present, posting whatever.

They will be back (or at least their alt id's will) so that they can review bomb SG CH 5 Full.

My recommendation for anyone new to this thread - try SG and encourage friends to do the same.

If you like it, wishlist it on Steam and, if your finances allow, start supporting Ocean on Patreon/SS.

If you find it is not your cup of tea - no worries - you still got to enjoy looking at some Beautiful women, enjoying top notch music and reading a story that will continue to grow and might just become something you will want to revisit down the road.

Until 'down the road' happens (or it does not), there are any number of other good/great creations here on F95 to enjoy.

Cheers!!

 

[KekWGgWP]

The more the game adds chapters and early chapters are reworked the more this i-thing that Nami and Nika are siblings gets far-fetched.

Does the i-patch make sense? do we need it? even though Nika and Nami aren't siblings, they were raised as such, therefore in the non-patched game any sexual and romantic relationship between them is regarded as forbidden and inconcievable by people around them.

To be honest the whole incest thing didn't made much sense for me since the beginning, i didn't see them as much as only step-siblings.

But never blood related in the first place, people are free to use the patch if they want but for me doesn't have much sense like i said.

 

[Alexanderson037500aa]

Does it matter what hospital Nojiko works at? I wrote about an ordinary doctor; unique specialists get much more. In the story, Nick ended up in a hospital where they couldn’t help him. Ocean presented Nojiko as a highly qualified specialist, superior to other similar doctors. Thanks to her, Nick stopped being disabled.
Your words contradict the plot, it was repeated several times that Nojiko has no money and MC is looking for ways to help her and make her life easier. If Nojiko were a nurse, then I would agree with everything, because their salaries are small. But doctors, and especially such highly qualified specialists like Nojiko, cannot live in poverty.

Did you get the idea that Nojiko must be a specialist from this scene? I don't think we can assume her status from just one scene .

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The more the game adds chapters and early chapters are reworked the more this i-thing that Nami and Nika are siblings gets far-fetched.

Does the i-patch make sense? do we need it? even though Nika and Nami aren't siblings, they were raised as such, therefore in the non-patched game any sexual and romantic relationship between them is regarded as forbidden and inconcievable by people around them.

The iPatch is something I include when I play.

IMO - it makes my SG experience more authentic (and Noji's comments/worries about how close the MC and Nami are feel more on point).

I think it comes down to personal preference.

IF - and this is a story detail for me, the MC and Nami are not related, it makes it more convoluted for Noji to have adopted two children from different families and at an early age and neither of them had a blood relative who was willing to adopt them/care for them when their parents died (and yes - it is possible that other relatives were involved at one time but we currently have no story details supporting this).

Does the death of the parents of the MC and Nami ever become more than an early background detail?

I don't know.

But if the death of their parents does play a role in future events, then it is easier to explain one dead/murdered (?) set of parents than two - IMO.

Cheers!!

 

[Ottoeight]

The iPatch is something I include when I play.

IMO - it makes my SG experience more authentic (and Noji's comments/worries about how close the MC and Nami are feel more on point).

I think it comes down to personal preference.

IF - and this is a story detail for me, the MC and Nami are not related, it makes it more convoluted for Noji to have adopted two children from different families and at an early age and neither of them had a blood relative who was willing to adopt them/care for them when their parents died (and yes - it is possible that other relatives were involved at one time but we currently have no story details supporting this).

Does the death of the parents of the MC and Nami ever become more than an early background detail?

I don't know.

But if the death of their parents does play a role in future events, then it is easier to explain one dead/murdered (?) set of parents than two - IMO.

Cheers!!

Bro, Nika tells Maja that Nami is 1 year older. So why did they attend the same class at school and why do they enroll together at ZPR?

As I wrote, we need to fully practise our suspension of disbelief arts and enjoy this story as it comes.