John972

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Who's William, by the way?
He's possibly the father of 90% of the younger characters seen in, Summer's Gone. /s

William is the name an absolute manwhore from Ocean's prequel game, Where It All Began, which is set some 20 years before, Summer's Gone. WIAB William's ability to spread his fertile seed leads fans to speculate which SG characters he possibly fathered.
 

Meushi

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The story never told she adopted them: it tells she's their legal guardian. And, no, it's not the same.
Never?
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Looks like quite a bit of adopting to me? But it has been removed from the non-patched version in 0.4.5 and 0.5b.
 

BobTheDuck

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All this speculation, all these theories, me with my half-baked English: What the fuck is going on!
TLDR: All the speculation and theories boil down to this - we're passing time between updates trying to work out wtf is going on. :sneaky: Ocean has a habit of adding importan details where they don't seem important so we're trying hard to find all the connections, and in somecases we think we've discovered bigfoot, in others, the Loch Ness monster, and in others we've discovered that Summer is a an alien vampire and she's gone because, well sunlight. Don't take us too seriously, sometimes our own theories are just hot air or bad new year's humour.

Who's William, by the way?
Willi is the protagonist in Ocean's other game Where It All Began. Link to the thread is on the first page of this thread. WiaB is the first game in Ocean's series, SG is 20 years later, roughly. Some of SG is easter eggs for people who know WiaB, and it makes some of the characters backstories more interesting to know their past. It's also the source of all the conspiracies, because it's literally where it all began.
 

Moricano

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Changelog:
the game has a beautiful look in the girls' area and also has good content in the story, but it ends up being a bit boring, due to the fact that there have already been several updates and no sexual content and from what I've noticed this is yet another game that doesn't there will be no sex on anyone's part.
And PatchSG has several errors in the area when starting messages by phone, which makes the game even worse.
I spent 2 nights playing and got completely discouraged and haven't even finished chapter 3 yet.
Good luck with your game and to fans of this type of game without sexual content.:sneaky:
 

lukachandrika

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IMP Q i realy dont remember the start of the game cz of long time update but do we know what happened to summer ? or what is the accident that made MC have truma ?
 

ShaggyDave76

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Am I honestly the only person that was really disappointed with the Chapter 5 Update??
I thought 4.5 had a decent amount of content, AND some storyline choices with everyone's favourite ginger Waifu!
Chapter 5 felt rushed, even though Ocean had a whole YEAR to come up with something longer than around 20 minutes of play time with little action.
Heck, even the recent Being a DIK episode had around an hour and a half of play time, and a really good side-story.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Summer's Gone, I was even a Patreon, but this update was a deal-breaker for me.
I've just turned 47. If Ocean carries on at this rate, I'm going to be 80 by the time Summer's Gone is finished!!!
 
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Am I honestly the only person that was really disappointed with the Chapter 5 Update??
I thought 4.5 had a decent amount of content, AND some storyline choices with everyone's favourite ginger Waifu!
Chapter 5 felt rushed, even though Ocean had a whole YEAR to come up with something longer than around 20 minutes of play time with little action.
Heck, even the recent Being a DIK episode had around an hour and a half of play time, and a really good side-story.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Summer's Gone, I was even a Patreon, but this update was a deal-breaker for me.
I've just turned 47. If Ocean carries on at this rate, I'm going to be 80 by the time Summer's Gone is finished!!!
I think this is more of an issue with your game choices than a reflection of the update overall. If you reject Bella and refuse to meet Nia, your experience with CH5 will be significantly shorter than otherwise. While I personally enjoyed CH4.5 more, CH5 had more substance.
 

ShaggyDave76

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I think this is more of an issue with your game choices than a reflection of the update overall. If you reject Bella and refuse to meet Nia, your experience with CH5 will be significantly shorter than otherwise. While I personally enjoyed CH4.5 more, CH5 had more substance.
Well, that's the thing. I hadn't rejected Bella, and went round to Nia's, but the whole thing still felt short - especially so with a lack of any major MC choices.
As someone else said to me, I think it was rushed just to complete Season 1, so Ocean could get it on Steam.

On a different, programming note, why are these AVN's so damn Large?
Back in the day, games on the old 16-bit (or even 32-bit) computers like the Atari and Amiga, and even Consoles like the Megadrive and SNES were just as big and offered hours of gameplay - Graphics weren't all that different then either (Just look at something like Dungeon Master on the Atari ST - beautiful!), so how come modern day PC games are so memory and RAM intensive?
 

jock1a

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Well, that's the thing. I hadn't rejected Bella, and went round to Nia's, but the whole thing still felt short - especially so with a lack of any major MC choices.
As someone else said to me, I think it was rushed just to complete Season 1, so Ocean could get it on Steam.

On a different, programming note, why are these AVN's so damn Large?
Back in the day, games on the old 16-bit (or even 32-bit) computers like the Atari and Amiga, and even Consoles like the Megadrive and SNES were just as big and offered hours of gameplay - Graphics weren't all that different then either (Just look at something like Dungeon Master on the Atari ST - beautiful!), so how come modern day PC games are so memory and RAM intensive?
animation would be my first choice for that answer. Your question involves graphics, animation and textures far superior to what you are comparing them too. The line is much smaller than you think. I have car that register's 150 mph have i ever drove it 150 no. Will i ever no. But if the manufacturer didn't make it someone else will. Thus driving up the profit for greedy corporations. The same has happened with computer Graphics (and everything related to them)If nividia don't make a new one someone else will and raise the price. The previous portion of my statement obviously has nothing to do with the AVN problem you are eluding too as i am sure you are already aware. I will leave you with this thought. There AVN developers that put out a chapter a month and make mods in thier render times. This developer also has more than one project. I find myself personally disinterested in any AVN that takes to long to continue the story. There is so many new developers putting out awesome content. And last but not least they are doing it primarily because it pays good.
 

yossa999

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Am I honestly the only person that was really disappointed with the Chapter 5 Update??
I thought 4.5 had a decent amount of content, AND some storyline choices with everyone's favourite ginger Waifu!
Chapter 5 felt rushed, even though Ocean had a whole YEAR to come up with something longer than around 20 minutes of play time with little action.
Heck, even the recent Being a DIK episode had around an hour and a half of play time, and a really good side-story.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Summer's Gone, I was even a Patreon, but this update was a deal-breaker for me.
I've just turned 47. If Ocean carries on at this rate, I'm going to be 80 by the time Summer's Gone is finished!!!
Of course you're not the only one, just count the latest 1 and 2 star reviews. I'm glad that the Chapter 5 became a kind of filter that finally pushed away those who expected their typical dating sim or a fuckfest from this game. Nah, it's going to be a long, vague, confusing story, and if it's not your thing, that's totally fine.

I'm really surprised you only had 20 minutes of content. Chapter 5 contains 2155 static renders (assuming you didn't replayed the old chapters where another 250 static renders were added). Most images are accompanied by text, some images are shown several times because all the text does not fit in one screen textbox and is divided into several screens with the same image or a few lines of dialogue spoken by different characters but illustrated by the same image. Although some images do not contain text. With all this in mind, it's safe to assume that on average each static screen takes at least 2 seconds to read and watch. I fail to see how one can read and watch it faster than you say "and-one-and-two" and enjoy it.

Let’s say that during your playthrough you only saw 70% of the content, which gives ~1500 screens (images with text). 2 seconds per screen x 1500 screens = 3000 seconds = 50 minutes of content. Unless you gave up on most of the possible events in the previous chapters: no date with Bella, no kiss from Nami, no promise to visit Nia, and I don't know what else is missing from your playthrough.

As for the long development time, well, yeah, there are downsides of Ocean being a solo developer creating a long, twisted, multi-season story-based game.

I once counted the actual total number of images for all the chapters in the Summer's Gone CH5-beta version of the game, there are more than 10,000. The classic completed DPC's game Acting Lessons contains about 5,000 images. I'm not comparing image quality because the games were developed at different times. People may hate AL and DPC for their cheap story tricks :HideThePain: but it is still a very popular and, what's relevant, a completed game. Thus, the unfinished Summer's Gone is already twice as long as Acting Lessons in terms of lines of text and, which is more important for VN, in visual content. JFYI.

But if you can call yourself a "completionist" of sorts, then it's probably really best to quit and forget this game. The final is still very far away unless the dev changes his vision.
 

ShaggyDave76

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The previous posters do make good points.
I'm guess I got spoiled jumping into AVN's a lot later than some, and had hours of content to play through that was already published in games such as Being a DIK. I realise that not all content creators are alike or work at the same pace (Some even have jobs..Shock!!)
I'm currently on my first playthrough of Leap of Faith, which is pretty deep plot-wise, but I'm only on chapter 6 of that one and taking my time, as I can see plenty of scope for numerous playthroughs there!
 
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