Umm...because the images are big? And as for actual games. Videos, 3d models, textures (a lot of them in high resolutions or space consuming formats like dds, like in the case of Starcraft 2, character dialog audio, music. Clearly you've never unpacked a game to see how much stuff goes into it (thousands upon thousands of files). Back in the old days it was mostly just a bunch of low resolution sprites.
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Happy New Year everyone, I just noticed that there is a very strong expression from Nojiko towards Nami when the MC tells them that he is going to the book club and the way Nami is not so impressed by the environment and the people around them in the book club, which makes me understand that Nami possibly knows a lot more about the past than the MC does And she's hiding it from him, let's remember that Nami is a year older than the MC
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10,000 images in 5 years of development - CUTE
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Yeah, they are very cute, indeed.10,000 images in 5 years of development - CUTE
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5 year old images are already mostly replaced and the last ones will be replaced in the final version of chapter 5.10,000 images in 5 years of development - CUTE
The oldest ones made by Ocean then would be like 3 years old or something? Since Ocean took over the development, that is. Correct me, whoever remembers or can find from the old posts, when it happened.
There's some old Youtube videos of the original opening scene, featuring an older and far uglier Summer.
'Meth-head Summer' I like to call her,,lol!!
'Meth-head Summer' I like to call her,,lol!!
One of the biggest differences I've seen with AVNs on F95 between now and several years ago is that the development cycles between updates/releases have increased significantly. What used to be six months is now a year, what used to be 2-3 months is now six months. It's worth pointing out that render quality has increased in that time too.
With the latest releases of SG and WIAB, I didn't feel so much that they were short (and the SG book club scene seemed to take ages) but rather I felt disappointed when the new chapters ended. I put this down to roughly knowing the length of time I'll have to wait until the next chapters drop (a lot games I like dropped over the last three months. I kinda SMH that I've now gotta wait until Sept-Oct 2024 until the majority of these games release a new update).
Another nameless game (the most popular on F95 and mentioned in your post) also recently dropped. It has a lot of content, but the playing time is significantly drawn out by multiple freeroam and minigame events per episode. I really like that about that game, but that's not the format of SG/WIAB.
As already pointed out, several scenes in SG Ch 5 were only available on certain routes. I see this as a challenge Ocean faces going forward because of the mechanics he has chosen - more and more scenes needed per update for specific routes, meaning an update could be huge but only so much of that content is available on any given route.
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Agree with this - imo the main problem is, that so far so many questions and started branches have piled up and last updates didn´t solve them but instead opened new ones.
So we still stay lost in uncertainty, the curiosity is encreasing...............
I never thought SG would solve all the initial mysteries in one sudden expositional dump.
If there's one thing Ocean can be accused of it's simply producing a slow-burn/slow-update AVN with way too many alluring LIs. The only way I seeing this being resolved within the next couple of years is if the MC engages a drunken and depraved orgy with a bevy of the LIs after they all go to The Barn to play board games. Now, that would be one hell-of-an update! /s
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Ocean was doing renders for SG during 0.2 development. Initially just helping out (29 Sep 2019), then 50/50 partnership (14 Nov 2019).
In the 0.2b release notes Ocean says he reworked ~1300 renders (1230 renders were added in Ch2, likely reworked some Ch1 renders too). So a significant number of his renders were in the initial 0.2 release (31 Dec 2019).
Regium wasn't involved in SG after 0.2 (20 Jan 2020).
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Dungeon Master on Atari ST? Either there's a joke in there that completely flew over my head, or I'm blind.
Thanks for taking the time to hunt down the posts.
So, the 10k renders by Ocean currently in the game equate to 13-15k renders made by Ocean for SG in five years, if discarded/replaced renders are included.
It may seem profound and poetic, but, in truth, it's the sort of revelation one would make while either stoned or drunk with friends.Damn, I think you just won all the theories in those two sentences. Amazing
As for Summer's fate... it's up in the air. She could be dead or she could be absconded somewhere. The only clue I've ever seen is in a conversation between Nika and Nami (from Ch 3). I can only take Nika's inference at face value.
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Nojiko is angry with Nami because she disobeyed her by telling Nika about the book club. That's it.
No, bro, you definitely misinterpreted Nami, because she's literally unable to grasp people's intentions.
He was simply teasing Nami.
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We know Nika saw Summer after the incident. So if the incident was traumatic, seeing Summer after it brought no closure and didn't cause further trauma. Seeing her again is almost mentioned as an after thought. He didn't see her body in a morgue, or he wouldn't be seeking to use Emilio's services to find her. So what we know is Nika didn't see Summer's corpse at any point that his mind consciously accepted. So it's his attempt to shock Nami, like the earlier joke to Vic about penguins, or the way he jokes about her porn habits publically to shame her. Completely part of their unique tension/affection.
Regarding drunken epiphanies, it's pretty damn good to simplify the stories to that angle. Viewing the bitchiness and drama through those lens's might simplify the reasons for some actions - to some extent we're expecting everyone to be playing games to save the future of their dynasty, or *gasp* Wollust. To have petty goals for some elaborate plans actually makes sense, especially after the spider scene. Parallel ways to read events, not just the objective reasons, but the embarrassingly subjective.
I would kinda argue, why not "dead people" or "dead chicks," instead of "dead children?" Is Nika implying he's a necrophiliac and a pedo? I'm sure that's gonna shock Nami (who's OK with incest by the way, but the other two are rightfully a bridge too far!) /s
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Nika can't type /s, only Ocean can. My guess is he's trying to shut the convo down by out-awkwarding Nami; we know later on she wishes he'd be more open about the subject rather than deflect.
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From my understanding, Ocean has 5 stories for the SG and WiAB worlds, so there are 3 more stories that haven't been published yet.
At first Ocean gave the SG story to Regium, and planned to do WiAB and one more story with a woman as the main character (according to Ocean so he wouldn't burn out with one story). But when Regium gave up working on SG, Ocean canceled the story (before could even publish it) and switched to working on SG.
correct me if I'm wrong.
At first Ocean gave the SG story to Regium, and planned to do WiAB and one more story with a woman as the main character (according to Ocean so he wouldn't burn out with one story). But when Regium gave up working on SG, Ocean canceled the story (before could even publish it) and switched to working on SG.
correct me if I'm wrong.
Sometimes I wonder if someone posting about Summers Gone has actually played the same AVN as I have.
I have to be honest and say my CH 5 SG experience was Vastly different and- seemingly better - than yours.
I do enjoy Ocean's storytelling and I spent more than 20 minutes on the book club scene alone.
That scene was an onion in terms of complexity/reveals:
* Noji secrets (she's known Amber far longer than she admitted, after pretending to meet Amber for the first-time outside Amber's office prior to the MC's therapy)
* Amber pretending that she had not met the MC before
* Sasha and her apparent siren's lure effect on multiple married men
* Charlie's Rule of the book club (and her lack of appreciation for the MC when he challenged that rule And when she found out that he was the male involved in Robin's 'scandal' at school - the sex in the bathroom which did not actually happen)
* the appearance of Katie Zane and her interest in both Nami and the MC
* the sudden appearance of Sasha when the MC has his panic attack (and Sasha just happened to have a medication to help with panic attacks and she shared it with him)
That scene also had great humor with Nami commenting on all the cougars and her quip about it looking like a scene from a porno.
I personally soaked up the Bella time at the beginning of CH 5 and enjoyed her first breakfast with Noji, the MC and eventually Nami + sleeping with her and getting the Zara reveals.
I won't regurgitate more of what I have already commented on in other posts.
I'll just say that the above is why I feel like we played different AVNs with the same name - our experiences seem to be so different.
I'm still a supporter and I thought CH 5 was a great close to Season 1, including the final scene with Bella and her sister.
This is certainly the most ambitious AVN I have ever supported and at current development speeds, it will take decades to get through the 30+ chapters that Ocean has talked about for SG.
(I think that development speed will increase once the Steam SG season 1 release is complete - plus hardware and software improvements will help here as well - his latest dev log about a Daz update and improved loading times was a major eye opener for me).
I hope that your CH 5 Full SG experience will be much better than your CH 5 Beta experience was.
I absolutely believe that mine will be, and I loved the CH 5 Beta.
Cheers!!
It reminds me when I was a kid. Adults had all these interesting Second World War books. I wasn't interested in reading them (I was kinda too young to appreciate or understand them anyway), but I LOVED looking at the two or three pages of photo plates every several chapters. I was kinda like that when I first found the world of AVNs on F95.Sometimes I wonder if someone posting about Summers Gone has actually played the same AVN as I have.
I have to be honest and say my CH 5 SG experience was Vastly different and- seemingly better - than yours.
I do enjoy Ocean's storytelling and I spent more than 20 minutes on the book club scene alone.
That scene was an onion in terms of complexity/reveals:
* Noji secrets (she's known Amber far longer than she admitted, after pretending to meet Amber for the first-time outside Amber's office prior to the MC's therapy)
* Amber pretending that she had not met the MC before
* Sasha and her apparent siren's lure effect on multiple married men
* Charlie's Rule of the book club (and her lack of appreciation for the MC when he challenged that rule And when she found out that he was the male involved in Robin's 'scandal' at school - the sex in the bathroom which did not actually happen)
* the appearance of Katie Zane and her interest in both Nami and the MC
* the sudden appearance of Sasha when the MC has his panic attack (and Sasha just happened to have a medication to help with panic attacks and she shared it with him)
That scene also had great humor with Nami commenting on all the cougars and her quip about it looking like a scene from a porno.
I personally soaked up the Bella time at the beginning of CH 5 and enjoyed her first breakfast with Noji, the MC and eventually Nami + sleeping with her and getting the Zara reveals.
I won't regurgitate more of what I have already commented on in other posts.
I'll just say that the above is why I feel like we played different AVNs with the same name - our experiences seem to be so different.
I'm still a supporter and I thought CH 5 was a great close to Season 1, including the final scene with Bella and her sister.
This is certainly the most ambitious AVN I have ever supported and at current development speeds, it will take decades to get through the 30+ chapters that Ocean has talked about for SG.
(I think that development speed will increase once the Steam SG season 1 release is complete - plus hardware and software improvements will help here as well - his latest dev log about a Daz update and improved loading times was a major eye opener for me).
I hope that your CH 5 Full SG experience will be much better than your CH 5 Beta experience was.
I absolutely believe that mine will be, and I loved the CH 5 Beta.
Cheers!!
Now, I cherish reading and experiencing those AVNs with complex and compelling stories, as they unfold one chapter at a time. SG is at the top of that pile for me, even with it's (minor) imperfections. The fantastic attention to detail in the renders and awesome soundtrack are just the icing on the cake for me.
PaxHadrian17 touched on some of the plot reveals from a segment of Ch 5 Beta alone. ...and there's just so much more going on overall (as one random example, Coaches Hill and Stahl's hail-Mary basketball plan in league with (presumably) Katie Zane). The sub-plots are so dense, I find it hard to keep up with every single thread of what's going on in this game.