Sancho1969

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No, it is the new official patch, there's no other way for it to contain the Ch2 rework labels, and have been released before the game was publicly available.

The 'official patch' being broken is common practice, as I said.

It may even the why it has been removed from lewdpatcher.
It's not common for the "official" patch to have 1,200 differences... that's never happened before with this VN so I'd say it uncommon practice. Hell, the patch has the player unlocking a Vanessa image in Ch2 when it's clearly in Ch4 of the Full VN. It's a beta patch meaning it's not done correctly has been my whole point. Regardless I've sorted it 100% for the pending mod update. I'll release a non-modded version of the fully functional, exact dialogue (except what's expected to be altered) to the current non-Patched Full VN when I'm done with the mod update. That'll end all confusion and give folks the exact experience they would have playing the Full VN but having a proper "iPatch" included.

I'm not trying to argue... I'm the one who is actually working on a proper solution tbh. I know you know what's what and you know I do to... we've both worked our asses off fixing VN's so please don't take my posts as attacking you in any way... that's not what this is.
 

d123456789

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No, it is the new 'official patch', there's no other way for it to contain the new Ch2 rework labels:
Code:
    "Bus02",
    "College2x0",
    "Gym2x0",
    "CollegeGymEntrance2x0",
    "Cafe2x0",
    "College2x0_2",
    "Mensa2x0",
    "BellaHome2x0",
    "BellaHomeAmber2x0",
    "BellaHomeBreakdown2x0",
And have been released before the game was publicly available.

The 'official patch' being broken is common practice, as I said. It may even why it has been removed from lewdpatcher.
why are you even arguing with sancho, he's building the mods and the patches that make the games better, you're likely wrong and even if you aren't, stop distracting him with your bullshit
 

imzahai

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why are you even arguing with sancho, he's building the mods and the patches that make the games better, you're likely wrong and even if you aren't, stop distracting him with your bullshit
please take a moment to unfuck yourself;
Meushi writes code too, and provides fixes for several games.
they aren't insulting each other, just comparing notes - hence Sanch reiterating that he isn't attacking Meushi, in case it wasn't clear.
 

Hahn1900

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why are you even arguing with sancho, he's building the mods and the patches that make the games better, you're likely wrong and even if you aren't, stop distracting him with your bullshit
turn it down a notch, sancho and meushi are both very competend coders and modders around here and are just "talking" to each other, not throwing bullshit insults around like you do. There is a huge difference between talking head to head or throwing unnecessary insults around, i would suggest you should learn that said difference.
 

d123456789

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please take a moment to unfuck yourself;
Meushi writes code too, and provides fixes for several games.
they aren't insulting each other, just comparing notes - hence Sanch reiterating that he isn't attacking Meushi, in case it wasn't clear.
my apologies!
i clearly didn't see it as the productive argument imzahai saw it as that will improve the game. i thought it was about a patch being out of date
 

d123456789

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turn it down a notch, sancho and meushi are both very competend coders and modders around here and are just "talking" to each other, not throwing bullshit insults around like you do. There is a huge difference between talking head to head or throwing unnecessary insults around, i would suggest you should learn that said difference.
apologies to you too! i didn't think what i said was a bullshit insult, but maybe saying someone is distracting bullshit is exactly that. i never thought i was insulting so i'm sorry if you did
 

WastedEfforts

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But damn, these early chapters have gotten me so invested in Bella that it does make me wonder how us Bella fans will all cope when MC's project partner gets switched in the following quarters :HideThePain: (we're still in the first quarter of MC's college year, so...)
We will demand another rework, so that we perpetually remain on Bella centric season :WeSmart:
 

Call of Booty

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We can't ignore Bella if I want to do other path,no? I mean all that conspiracy against Vanessa,haircut and clothes.
 

`Ray`

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Updated the SG Table. I am open to corrections.

ChaptersRendersCinematicsBeta ReleaseFinal ReleaseDevelopment Time
Ch 17143 (3000 Af)
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8 May 2019000 Days
Ch 21494 109%+5 (1660 Af)31 Dec 201911 Jan 2020237 Days + 11 Days (8 months, 3 days)
Ch 3 + RW1797 20%+3 (4890 Af)02 Jan 202123 Jan 2021357 Days + 21 Days (12 months, 12 days)
Ch 3.5 + RW1390 22%-3 (2755 Af)30 July 202120 Aug 2021188 Days + 21 Days (6 months, 28 days)
Ch 4 + RW2300 65%+8 (7415 Af)31 May 202224 July 2022284 Days + 54 Days (11 months, 4 days)
Ch 4.5 + RW1520 33%-5 (3770 Af)25 Nov 20229 Mar 2023124 Days + 104 Days (7 months, 13 days)
Ch 5 + RW----In Development

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- RW = Rework (Only affects the Development Time, not the Renders)
- Af = Animation Frames (Big Thanks to sorco2003 for suggesting this idea.)(FPS*Sec)
- A Cinematic is made out of 5-25 single animations with 60-300 frames each.

- As of now, Beta includes the actual new content, while the Final includes the rework and bug/typo fixes.
- The Development Time is also dedicated to WiAB which is the Developer's Second game.
 

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I'm frustrated that the plot doesn't move forward, but I admit that I rather liked the new "remake".

Staging scenes and visuals have become frankly better
Mila is getting...bigger) and hotter)
I like that this update has a lot of Nojiko. I hope we will be able to cuck her new boyfriend)
 
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Updated the SG Table. I am open to corrections.

ChaptersRendersCinematicsBeta ReleaseFinal ReleaseDevelopment Time
Ch 17143 (3000 Af)
-​
8 May 2019000 Days
Ch 21494 109%+5 (1660 Af)31 Dec 201911 Jan 2020237 Days + 11 Days (8 months, 3 days)
Ch 3 + RW1797 20%+3 (4890 Af)02 Jan 202123 Jan 2021357 Days + 21 Days (12 months, 12 days)
Ch 3.5 + RW1390 22%-3 (2755 Af)30 July 202120 Aug 2021188 Days + 21 Days (6 months, 28 days)
Ch 4 + RW2300 65%+8 (7415 Af)31 May 202224 July 2022284 Days + 54 Days (11 months, 4 days)
Ch 4.5 + RW1520 33%-5 (3770 Af)25 Nov 20229 Mar 2023124 Days + 104 Days (7 months, 13 days)
Ch 5 + RW----In Development

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- RW = Rework (Only affects the Development Time, not the Renders)
- Af = Animation Frames (Big Thanks to sorco2003 for suggesting this idea.)(FPS*Sec)
- A Cinematic is made out of 5-25 single animations with 60-300 frames each.

- As of now, Beta includes the actual new content, while the Final includes the rework and bug/typo fixes.
- The Development Time is also dedicated to WiAB which is the Developer's Second game.
Even though, rendering is only part of it, what about modeling and thinking about what we want to see? How many renders were wrong, so needed to be done again? It seems rendering is just a fast pc with good graphics card, consuming a lot of power...

Is story CH4.5 similar or less complex than CH4 ?

Having said that, thanks for the analysis, it's still interesting to see...
 
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websmith

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Queue music.
Never ending stoooory.

I get "developers" wanting to make a game look good, but Oceanlab and others simply spend too much time on renders and too little time on actually progressing the story.

Its a shame though because its a good story.

My guess is that within a couple of years we might be at CH 6 (still without any sex obviously) - and then another "rewrite/re-render" is announced and it starts all over again - simply because the developer has lost any drive to actually finish the story - and can only milk patrons by doing something new - and what is better than re-releasing the same stuff, in even higher resolution and with slightly better animations.

A real shame that we have so few developers that actually release chapters and so many that worry about polishing their shit until it shines.
 

`Ray`

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Even though, rendering is only part of it, what about modeling and thinking about what we want to see? How many renders were wrong, so needed to be done again? It seems rendering is just a fast pc with good graphics card, consuming a lot of power...
B = Before
A = After

ChaptersRenders (B - Ch4.5)Renders (A - Ch4.5)Cinematics (B- Ch4.5)Cinematics (A- Ch4.5)
Ch 172771443
Ch 21157 59%+1494 109%+55
Ch 3 + RW1780 53%+1797 20%+53
Ch 3.5 + RW1393 21%-1390 22%-33
Ch 4 + RW2299 65%+2300 65%+88
Ch 4.5 + RW-1520 33%--5
Is story CH4.5 similar or less complex than CH4 ?
I'm not sure if I understood this, but how do you even compare the story/writing? :WaitWhat:
 
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