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People babbling about this being the best story ever when Ocean himself is making this game without a script. Changing who is LI and who's not. Supposedly connecting two games and then saying that Wiab gets a whole story overhaul. All in all, I bet that chapter 5 is going to be a turning point of this project flopping or turning into another VN with porn in it.
For the record, the first Ironman movie didnt have a script...and if my memory doesn't fail me i think it made great sucess in the box office....
 
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Hard disagree. I won't even touch the game if I can't run at least URM. I have not had a single instance with any game in which URM did not wildly improve the experience. This is especially true with games such as Summer's Gone. I like having control of my playthrough. Not falling prey to devs getting clever with variables or limiting your experience in order to force you into multiple routes/saves.
I thought the same times ago but then came the point at which I realized that I wasn't giving myself more control, but rather less control. Instead of making my own decisions, I only ever chose the options that the mod showed me to be the best. It's like reading a book. In the end I played the game like the mod wanted, but not like I would have done. In principle, the author shouldn't have built any queries into the game. You just keep clicking. Only at the moment on the variable displayed by the mod. I took the fun out of the AVN. It's a lot more fun to discover things and see things that other players don't even notice because they never get to see those dialogues and images because of their gameplay. And as I said: I also use URM from time to time. But never in my first playthrough, the real playthrough. Only in later runs, although I tend to go for walkthroughs and only check something with URM from time to time. Every once in a while I change a variable, but mostly it's unnecessary.
 
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I thought the same times ago but then came the point at which I realized that I wasn't giving myself more control, but rather less control. Instead of making my own decisions, I only ever chose the options that the mod showed me to be the best. It's like reading a book. In the end I played the game like the mod wanted, but not like I would have done. In principle, the author shouldn't have built any queries into the game. You just keep clicking. Only at the moment on the variable displayed by the mod. I took the fun out of the AVN. It's a lot more fun to discover things and see things that other players don't even notice because they never get to see those dialogues and images because of their gameplay. And as I said: I also use URM from time to time. But never in my first playthrough, the real playthrough. Only in later runs, although I tend to go for walkthroughs and only check something with URM from time to time. Every once in a while I change a variable, but mostly it's unnecessary.
Ah. I can certainly understand your point of view. But we are very different I guess. You focus on the journey, I only care about the destination.

I am the guy who reads the last page first whenever I open a new book. I am the guy who looks for spoilers and reviews for tv shows and movies before watching them. And the reason why is simple. There is no worse feeling than that of having wasted your precious time or money into something that ends up disappointing you. When it comes to AVN's specifically, a little old game called Acting Lessons, taught me the value of URM and mods. It still is today the single worst adult game I've ever played because my experience was dreadful throughout the entire thing. Had I known about URM sooner I could have steered my playthrough into something more palatable. Had I read spoilers I would have known to avoid that particular game. I would rather not have a similar experience with Summer's Gone.

We already have so little control over our own lives or the world around us... I'll always take some of it back wherever I can .
 

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Just had a dream about the game boys in the dream we got to the first team and all the chicks wants the new guy who hit all the three pointers :cool:
 

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Ran into the most common error I keep seeing in visual novels!!! An UNDEFINED variable, unless it is set it to TRUE; he otherwise doesn't do a thing, because after all, the program will switch to ESP mode and read his mind and just KNOW the variable exists!!!

I needed to add in
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default wingnami = False
...to "PatchSG.rpy" because the DEV didn't define a default. Sorry, a tad annoyed that I keep seeing this SAME ERROR in so many VNs!!! The Dev doesn't bother to define the variable unless he sets it to "True" which is bad programming as when you go to test if it is "True", and it was not set, than it is UNDEFINED and the program doesn't know what variable talking about and so it throws an exception!

If you're going to program these things, DEFINE ALL VARIABLES BEFORE YOU USE THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!! Man... anyhow... I am done ranting. Thank God I know how to program and it was a relatively easy fix FOR ME.

END RANT.... ;)
Edited language out. LOL

Update: this SEEMS to be a product of the "reworking my old game" that plagues us all, and seeing as how he redone chapter 1 but not 2 and removed an idea and variable from earlier chapter but didn't search his project for other instances of the variable, this happened. CTRL+SHIFT+F... learn to use it to search your project for other instances of your variable folks, and clean it up properly (if you use the ATOM editor anyhow, which you should).
 
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One of my favorite renders in the game. Man, I really don't want him to rework this scene.
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I really hope he doesn't . It always botherd me how ridiculous she looked wearing what ever that is to something as serious as breaking into someone's house. It's one of those moments where the Dev pulls a perv and makes a female character wear something risqué just to show off her assets but the actual scene doesn't call for it in any way shape or form. It was kinda a recurring theme in the beginning of this game. Bella being topless while crying and having a heart to heart convo with the MC in CH3 and Nami crying then removing her bra for no reason while having a heart to heart with the MC. It's ridiculous lol and I'm sure there's more instances like this in the game. Anyways I think a black hoodie and a pair of black leggings will look better on Bella for this scene and it will suit the occasion more.
 
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Ran into the most common, and STUPID error I keep seeing in visual novels!!! an UNDEFINED variable because the DEV is too retarded to define it unless he sets it to TRUE, he otherwise goes into retard mode and doesn't do a thing, because after all, the program will switch to ESP mode and read his fucking mind and just KNOW the variable exists!!!

Thank God some of us can program and know a little about these things... I needed to add in
Python:
define wingnami = False
To "PatchSG.rpy" because the DEV is a newb programmer. Sorry, a tad annoyed that I keep seeing this SAME ERROR!!! The Dev doesn't bother to define the damn variable unless he sets it to "True" which is utterly RETARDED as when you go to test if it is "True", and it was not set, than it is UNDEFINED and the program doesn't know what variable you are fucking talking about and so it throws an exception!

If you're going to program these things, DEFINE ALL VARIABLES BEFORE YOU USE THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!! Man... anyhow... I am done ranting. Thank God I know how to program and it was a relatively easy fix FOR ME.

END RANT.... ;)
So Nami acting like a wingman is not set right by the dev? Is that why she always telling me to fuck other girls or how horny they are even though I'm on her route and she basically told my protagonist she was in love with him? It feels inconsistent....and moments like that are littered throughout the game...
 
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I've stopped playing AVN's with mods long time ago. It's truely better in the most cases. Sure, I've installed URM and sometimes I use it but you'll have more fun without modding after all.
Never played with mods, I don't see the point personnally.

Some mods can help fix prog mistakes though, glitches, some smoothens animations, and the like, so there are some perks to them.

Modders here work hard to maintain them, that's for sure.

Still, playing to cheat all paths in, it's just being lazy, pure waste of time.
 

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Never played with mods, I don't see the point personnally.

Some mods can help fix prog mistakes though, glitches, some smoothens animations, and the like, so there are some perks to them.

Modders here work hard to maintain them, that's for sure.

Still, playing to cheat all paths in, it's just being lazy, pure waste of time.
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Ran into the most common, and STUPID error I keep seeing in visual novels!!! an UNDEFINED variable because the DEV is too retarded to define it unless he sets it to TRUE, he otherwise goes into retard mode and doesn't do a thing, because after all, the program will switch to ESP mode and read his fucking mind and just KNOW the variable exists!!!

Thank God some of us can program and know a little about these things... I needed to add in
Python:
define wingnami = False
To "PatchSG.rpy" because the DEV is a newb programmer. Sorry, a tad annoyed that I keep seeing this SAME ERROR!!! The Dev doesn't bother to define the damn variable unless he sets it to "True" which is utterly RETARDED as when you go to test if it is "True", and it was not set, than it is UNDEFINED and the program doesn't know what variable you are fucking talking about and so it throws an exception!

If you're going to program these things, DEFINE ALL VARIABLES BEFORE YOU USE THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!! Man... anyhow... I am done ranting. Thank God I know how to program and it was a relatively easy fix FOR ME.

END RANT.... ;)
It looks like you're shooting in the wrong direction, this variable only occurs in Chapter2.py in the "if" condition and nowhere else, it seems to be an uncleaned remnant from chapter 2 before the rework. If my memory serves me right, this variable was set in a deleted part of the bathroom scene when MC had the option to say that he likes Mila and that switched Nami into full Cheeto mode about being his wingman.
 
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So sorry for you, but it happens in 4.5 full :ROFLMAO:
Okay, I was talking about this:

the basketball team's leader (the guy who puts a finger in Trey's ass!) arriving
in old version basketball team's leader is played by "Dolph Lundgren" :KEK: :

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He started "inspection":

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Then the leader SLAPPED Trey's ass:

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Then the leader told Trey about other guy who likes to do deeper inspections :LOL:

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So in old version the leader didnt put finger in Trey's ass and even special dude who likes to do that didnt do it to Trey. But you are saying things are different in 4.5 full?
 

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Okay, I was talking about this:



Then the leader SLAPPED Trey's ass:

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Then the leader told Trey about other guy who likes to do deeper inspections :LOL:



So in old version the leader didnt put finger in Trey's ass and even special dude who likes to do that didnt do it to Trey. But you are saying things are different in 4.5 full?
I don't think he's "slapping" his ass, bro :sneaky:. Anyway, I'm not especially fond of / interested in that moment. I guess you were impressed.
 
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