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The NTR police crusade will not end until all girls are mannequins with no personality besides making sure MC knows they are everything to them. They should only ever date MC, look at MC, breathe for MC, live and die for and by MC.

Everything else triggers them into a chaotic frenzy, followed by cosmic rage and ending in crippling depression.
There are two fractions clashing together, the NTR-Brigade that thinks every game here should face NTR and the Anti-NTR-Brigade doing the opposite.

Assuming the creator of the game has a line from the beginning of the making (some adjust during making cause of changing personell views), he had already stated that he likes to have NTR in the game (or doesn't). So requesting NTR in a Non-NTR-game or requesting to remove it only faces the one who requests with his personal failure to search a game having his favor content.

The best way top handle these posts is to ignore them, if someone likes to request content then it should be someone supporting the creator on Patreon and using the way through his communication channels advertised there.
 

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She is not an LI in Season 1 (ch 1 - 5).

lonelyk shows Vanessa as one of many potential LIs based on feedback from Ocean on Patreon and Discord (there may be other sources for his LI compendium).

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-6400878
Question: Can actually anybody be declared as a love interest? At this time, there is nothing that qualifies cause the love (and also the practical execution of love :sneaky:) is missing (i'm not complaining, a good story with a wide range of well written chars is, thinking of the longer future of the game, better than the quick orgasm to satisfy only those who weren't capable to read properly). So, looking at the current game, we better start speaking of FI (Friend Interests), waiting for future episodes to see how things evolve.
 
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My point is that while there are both the dom and sub options for Vanessa, my MC will not be dominated by her and, barring major reveals in the future about why Vanessa became this cold and calculating woman (and how that will not apply to the MC), I will not pursue making her submissive to me.

Perhaps it's just the inherent lack of trust in her motives and the feeling that she will not Stay submissive to me.

Now Ocean is a Great storyteller, so I don't say Never with Vanessa, just that she is Far Far down the list of those I am interested in pursuing as an LI.
We all have our own interests and morals. I respect your opinion, and I am not her biggest fan either.:D
 

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no date for the update ???
You ask in many threads about release dates. I've read you alone in four threads today with just a little variation of your question. You still should've learned it. If there's an upcoming release you could read about it just with a look into the last 10 postings in a thread because all the people in the threads are doing after a pronounced release date is talking about this. Is there no hype, there's no release date. Your account is three years old, so you're also long enough here to realise the most devs didn't make utterances about a release date until an update is done. Because if something happened and the release delays they'll always get a toxic shitstorm. Even if it's only a delay for two days.

tl;dr: the questions about release dates are one of the most senseless questions here.
 

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There are two fractions clashing together, the NTR-Brigade that thinks every game here should face NTR and the Anti-NTR-Brigade doing the opposite.

Assuming the creator of the game has a line from the beginning of the making (some adjust during making cause of changing personell views), he had already stated that he likes to have NTR in the game (or doesn't). So requesting NTR in a Non-NTR-game or requesting to remove it only faces the one who requests with his personal failure to search a game having his favor content.

The best way top handle these posts is to ignore them, if someone likes to request content then it should be someone supporting the creator on Patreon and using the way through his communication channels advertised there.
There are no two factions. There are annoying people who inspect every game thread and try to push the devs to add or remove things in their games according to their requirements. They use the acronym NTR for everything they don't want to see hence it should not exist. It has nothing to do with liking or not liking the netorare kink. Here is at least an honest quote without beating around the bush of terminology from one of them:
I see this all the time in threads. The truth is that an NTR-hater doesn't care what NTR really means. They could care less. It's just a word for when they don't get all the women as LIs. All of them.

For an NTR-hater (I include myself in this category), NTR means this: "I don't want to see any dicks in the game that aren't the MC's. None. Not as flashbacks, not as dreams, never. And I want all the LIs. No one else touches them."

I know this doesn't reflect real life, but if I wanted real life I'd turn off my laptop and walk outside.
 
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DrSoong

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There are no two factions. There are annoying people who inspect every game thread and try to push the devs to add or remove things in their games according to their requirements. They use the acronym NTR for everything they don't want to see hence it should not exist. It has nothing to do with liking or not liking the netorare kink. Here is at least an honest quote without beating around the bush of terminology from one of them:
You can call them like you want (i like the terminus trapped in their bubble), everybody has his own sight for different things and they seldomly change it cause of the others. We're talking about games, of course you will find things that don't occur in real life (hey, that's the power of imagination of the creator), sometimes people want the look through the pink looking glasses.

Yes, people demanding things are annoying sometimes (this goes for the NTR and the Anti-NTR guys), some people can forget some of their preferences when a game is worth playing. Normally, this goes side with an interesting story and well written and developed characters (this game is some archetype looking at this, there's not a single porn scene but it has a big amount of fans looking over this for an AVN), those who can't will always interfere and complain.

Like i mentioned before, forget the ones who complain and play the games you like, better talk about the story that's in the game instead of (like they complain) missing content.
 

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Chapter 5 - Dev Log #7

Hello,

So, first the two bad news.
If you saw the last WiAB Dev Log, you can skip the music part.
From the last WiAB Log:

"So, I got a lovely E-Mail around a week ago, where I was informed that Elijah Fords Management has changed, and they advised him to pull out all the music from previous deals.
"But Ocean, didn't you make a contract?"

Yes, but I was/am a poor bitch and couldn't afford to make a big one-time payment for each song, and instead paid them a monthly fee...

Elijah Ford's music is going to be removed from both games. Late Kids music will most likely stay.

I'm currently negotiating a new contract with them and they agreed to my offer. (1250€ for each song). With this, I'll cover SG and WiAB season 1.

They're also about to release new music soon, and if I like their new stuff, I'll license more from them.

Sadly, I'm losing one of my favorite songs... Every Night, which isn't directly owned by Late Kids, but by Elijah.

It was an exception back then, that I went for the monthly fee thingy... But I just couldn't afford a more secure option & desperately needed music.
"Some Days" & "Run" will stay if Late Kids agrees to the contract, which was professionally made by my lawyer.

I'm not ever going to buy a license again, that isn't completely safe.
WiAB will be hit much harder by this, as WiAB is a full-fledged adult game with pornographic content.
While SG Season 1 isn't and this gives me a lot more options.

The way to move forward is by contacting artists personally and offering them a contract... I said that last year, and I'm going to be totally honest here.
I only contacted a handful of artists...
I absolutely hate it. I hate spending hours writing back and forth.

I hate negotiating with artists whose music nobody knows, and they think that their song is worth a good 4-digit sum.

I must also admit that I'm still bitter when it comes to music. Having to remove songs that I had prepared for years really left a scar on me.
So many cinematics died with them."


--------------------------------End of music section

2. The Workstation.


Finally, after months of waiting on the German bureaucracy, I finally got everything I needed to apply for the loan to get the Workstation.

And guess what? Germany's bureaucracy fucks me again... even harder this time.

I'm not getting the loan. They said there's not a single chance...

And the best part? The reason.

The reason is that I moved not that long ago, and also had to close and reopen my business. (I had to do this because I moved states within Germany. It requires you to do so.)

So yeah, I'm not getting a loan that every single average fuck in Germany would've gotten because I moved across Germany and was forced to close and reopen my business. (They told me that in the E-mail.)

Every other point is 10000% covered. My credit score is perfect.

I have good reserves (Enough to actually buy the workstation itself at once. But it would put me in a very uncomfortable position... So that's a no-go.)

Enough liquid income from your support to cover the entire loan in 3-5 months.)
Germany just does it again.

My last hope is now that the Steam launch will be a real success to buy it at once without a stupid bank involved.

Otherwise, I'll have to take the A6000 from WiAB and put it into SG's workstation.

Chapter 6 SG is an update full of scenes with 20+ people. And because SG is carrying the entire development train.

WiAB will have to give up its GPU if I can't finance the Workstation until then.

But in the end, both games would suffer if I had to switch GPUs.

The A6000 is much slower than two 3090s, but the 3090s can't even render the scenes.

Meanwhile, I won't be able to render the big scenes in the WiAB update on the 3090s.

I'm just frustrated because I thought it was a sure thing... There's still some time left until Chapter 6 SG.

Not as much as you might think (;

Tomorrow, I will call my house bank and see what they have to say. I don't have high hopes and asking for an alternative loan will leave a bad mark on my credit score but what the fuck can I do?

The good news about all of this. I'm so productive, I'm outperforming all GPUs so hard.

SG is around 1350 rendered images in. SG has 310 renders left in the queue, and I'd say around 450 renders are left to set up for the update to finish. (Chapter 5.)

So I set up 1610 still renders alone for SG in around 53 SG days. (Total of 107 days since development started for Ch5. Divided by two as every other day is WiAB.)

WiAB also has like 180 renders in the queue.

The Cinematic for SG Chapter 5 has also been completely finished. (1:32min)

"The flesh is strong. The machines are weak."

Previews: 4K attached.

So, there are two scenes in Chapter 3 that needed to be changed. With the new Chapter 2 rework, Claire gets an updated model and HQ hair.

So I already finished one scene on my off day.

It's actually good that the scene had to be changed. Because I hated Bella's outfit. It didn't fit at all. (Considering that she had a little breakdown right before that.)

Old Scene:
Bellchen_Old1.jpg Bellchen_Old2.jpg Bellchen_Old3.jpg
Some new ones:
BellchenCH3_1.png BellchenCH3_2.png BellchenCH3_3.png
Claire's new model (Now closer to Amber to highlight their relationship.)
BellchenCH3_4.png
I didn't change any dialogue and just updated the renders.
I also think I show too many previews. In the future, I will limit the previews to 2 images per Dev Log.
So here's another image of Chapter 5.
AngryBellchenInBG.png
I'll see you in the next log and thank you for your support! Without you, I couldn't even think about trying to finance that beast of a workstation.

- Ocean
 
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This is good. One of the things that took me out of some of the emotion heavy scenes was the fact that the girls are sexualized for no apparent reason within that scene. Bella crying telling the MC how horrible kids were to her growing up and Nami after finding out about Nick are two examples of emotion heavy scenes that for no apparent reason have Bella and Nami practically naked. In fact in the Nami one she removes her top the moment the MC comes in lol. It really takes away from the emotion in the scene and makes it look ridiculous and pervy instead. But this is good, it shows ocean has matured and hopefully he'll do the same with all the other scenes that need a wardrobe change that'll fit the mood more instead of pimping his characters out just for the sake of it
 
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