VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BeingADikDik]

The worst name he could've named the MC is Dickon

Dick Petit Jr.

 

[Aristos]

And the worst family name for him would be Boner because... well, you know...

 

[Old Man Al]

...
Or the problem is, he cannot make an ugly character...

That is exactly Oceans only "flaw". He cannot do ugly. The people that don't look like perfect beings look not ugly but grotesque.

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Or take Sasha. Everyone with such a noticeable face injury would at least look flawed normally. But somehow, she doesn't really.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

And the worst family name for him would be Boner because... well, you know...

OK, OT but you reminded me of a time before cell phones and caller id.

I remember being a bored teenager and looking in the phonebook (one of those 10 lb monstrosities) and I found a poor guy who was named Homer Bono.

Of course, I got several friends together and we crank called for Homo Boner.

Bored teenage boys Will act like sometimes.

Thanks for bringing that memory back ... and Homer - if you are reading this - Sorry...

 

[ishaan3121]

when will the new update come?

 

[PaxHadrian17]

when will the new update come?

The estimate is August or September.

Ocean reconfirmed that he will release the next rev of WIAB first, then we will get the Beta? of CH 5, followed by CH 5 full (or perhaps the CH 5 Steam release rev).

 

[exazubi]

That's exactly what it's about... There are only beautiful girls here!!! Whether they have good or bad qualities, they are all beautiful. Everyone can find what they like.

Might be. But is that a bad thing? I like games where all the characters, especially the LI of course, are cute, or at least decent. Of course, not everyone has to be a top model. But one doesn't necessarily have to be fat as a gorilla (there are also chubby women and men who are very attractive) or ugly as night either. Just like in real life. Let's take the classic nerdy "wallflowers" (deutsch: "Mauerblümchen), for example, as there is at least one in almost every school class. They often have little self-confidence, because of fragile family or bullying and something similar. But often they are turn out to be a beautiful swan as soon as they come out of their peel.

I think it's good when all the characters look good too. I like to be spoiled for choice, also because you don't get to see everything in one playthrough. That calls for replay value.

 

[DirtyMario]

I'm actively trying to zoom through Zara scenes because that "Monica Bellucci in her prime" model absolutely ruins my immersion. Not saying she's unattractive or anything and I've busted many a nut to her in my time, I just don't think using a real actors likeness is a good idea.

 

[rudy007]

Might be. But is that a bad thing? I like games where all the characters, especially the LI of course, are cute, or at least decent. Of course, not everyone has to be a top model. But one doesn't necessarily have to be fat as a gorilla (there are also chubby women and men who are very attractive) or ugly as night either. Just like in real life. Let's take the classic nerdy "wallflowers" (deutsch: "Mauerblümchen), for example, as there is at least one in almost every school class. They often have little self-confidence, because of fragile family or bullying and something similar. But often they are turn out to be a beautiful swan as soon as they come out of their peel.

I think it's good when all the characters look good too. I like to be spoiled for choice, also because you don't get to see everything in one playthrough. That calls for replay value.

It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable... Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)
There is only one thing that's worse than make all female characters beautiful; don't make them at all and use black silhouettes (shadows) of other people in a scene.

 

[Deleted member 327695]

It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable...

LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.

Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)

Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.

Seriously, Marla over Maja?

There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.

I'm actively trying to zoom through Zara scenes because that "Monica Bellucci in her prime" model absolutely ruins my immersion. I just don't think using a real actors likeness is a good idea.

No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).

 

[rudy007]

LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.



Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.



There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.




No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).

Thx. You're right on some points. On other we have to agree to disagree. It's your game and you are in charge. You do good work. And I will continue to play it. You created bunch of unique characters here, but yeah, I don't know why but Nojiko impressed me the most. She's unique beautiful MILF.

 

[codex35]

It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable... Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)
There is only one thing that's worse than make all female characters beautiful; don't make them at all and use black silhouettes (shadows) of other people in a scene.

I think these things make SG special

and don't forget this AVN has 1300+ patreon subs for 0 sex scene

this is evidence for Ocean's technique is working

 

[StingerWolf]

LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.



Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.



There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.




No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).

Thank you Ocean, your reply clearly shows, you are a person who has a complex deep personality and thoughts. Clear and concise answer, yes, it makes sense, both for Maja and Marla.
Nevertheless this creates a rather tragic ambiguity regarding Maja. You see, exactly her selfless trait regarding Victoria makes her a more than just a fling type of LI. A girl with such depth, with a such a caring personality for me is more than worhty to be a LI. I think exactly the opposite implementation would make more sense: she shouldn't be lewdable, but should have a not so happy ending, where she HAS to choose between her strong feelings towards the MC or her selfless attitude towards Victoria. She is really LI material from my perspective, exactly because of the possible inner conflict.

 

[Fun Shaundi]

Man, I'm just glad that we have a dev that actually bothers to pay attention attention to background characters, for a change.
There's so many gorgeous looking VNs that have awesome detailed and unique models among its main cast, then you see in the background 'npc's' with weird goblin expressions and cartoony proportions, clothes with questionable colours and textures and skin textures that make them look as if they were made of clay.

That's why in SG and WiAB I enjoy looking at renders where characters do something as simple as riding the bus or being at a bar, the attention to bg characters make the whole scenes more natural and visually attractive.

 

[rudy007]

I think these things make SG special

and don't forget this AVN has 1300+ patreon subs for 0 sex scene

this is evidence for Ocean's technique is working

That only proves that an AVN isn't only sex, sex, under any circumstances sex... Story and good believeble and credible characters can make a story much better. Findind the right time for sex is a science on his own. Little bit earlier is sometime better then being declared a blueball simulator... All we know is that this game is only at the end of first part (chapter 1 - 5), and with the full version of chapter 5 we are finished with rework and than we go fresh on new part of the game and only new content. It will shave few weeks of development time.

 

[DirtyMario]

No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).

Didn't say you did it on purpose. Maybe it just happened. Or maybe I'm just crazy, I'm not even sure.

Spoiler: Not a recent picture but she's fuckin 57 these days and still looks great

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[Fortuna ღ]

A bit of a breath of fresh air to have a developer that prioritizes quality over everything else. Some LIs aren't for people looking for quick sexual gratification, and some LIs aren't for people looking for a simple love story or a simple girl. This isn't a dating sim.

There are tons of beautiful girls in the world, especially in university settings where we're all clumped together. It's actually kind of realistic for there to be attractive background models(ok, maybe not every single character... I'm actually in favour of adding some blandness/ugliness for realism's sake lol) because, guys... and I hate to be the one to break it to all of you, but you won't be able to pursue every single girl that you find interesting or attractive. Attractive models do not = sex scenes or relationships at some point in the future. That's not how life works.

Just because someone's physically attractive, or great at sex... does not mean that a relationship will ever work. I feel like a lot of people are going to be very disappointed in the future when they realize that they won't be able to pursue anything meaningful with the characters that they'd hooked up with. This MC isn't a blank slate... he has his own personality, and that personality just isn't compatible with everyone(and they just may not be important enough for the story lol, there's also that)ღ

 

[TonyMo]

the secret trans - sonja imo

Yeah i think so too,mainly cuz of her reserved clothes

 

[Old Man Al]

... and I hate to be the one to break it to all of you, but you won't be able to pursue every single girl that you find interesting or attractive. ...

But...

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[pecard255]

It's July now. I just hope we get to see an update in the story at least before summer's gone.