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rudy007

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I already have my favorite LIs, but I'm interest in the rest cause I'm curious about how MC's relationship with them will develop. We met Marla when she ran over Vic and was about to shoot MC, but we also met Bella while being an ass towards Nami and Maja was also being completely hostile towards MC when she first met him.
I'm curious about Marla, but we can't really say much about her as LI cause she hasn't had that much content (Just like Sasha, Nadia and other LIs).
We all have our own preferences and according to that we choose our LI('s). I have no problem with Maria being a LI. We were introduced to her in first minutes of game and follow her story. But... I think we are like Nojiko more than Maria. If Maria is a LI, Nojiko have to be too. Ocean, please don't waste such a good character for being a potential wife of (I can't remember his name, but he is creepy, father of Vanessa and Zara). I have nothing against that story, but bring Nojiko back as LI.
 
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We all have our own preferences and according to that we choose our LI('s). I have no problem with Maria being a LI. We were introduced to her in first minutes of game and follow her story. But... I think we are like Nojiko more than Maria. If Maria is a LI, Nojiko have to be too. Ocean, please don't waste such a good character for being a potential wife of (I can't remember his name, but he is creepy, father of Vanessa and Zara). I have nothing against that story, but bring Nojiko back as LI.
I agree with a lot of your takes here but this one I can't...

As much as I LOVE Nojiko (she is the ONLY attractive MILF in this game to me, Amber is a HARD pass) I just don't think her as an LI really fits the story Ocean wants to tell. Or at least not yet. And I also like everything we've seen from Nick so far. Sure Zara and Vanessa were not beaten enough as children and turned out the awful way they did, but you gotta give him a break. Dude had a disgusting ex-wife who tried her best to turn his daughters against him by accusing him of one of the most vile acts imaginable. I hope Nojiko and Nick stay together.By all accounts she seems like an amazing person and she deserves all the best even if that means we won't be able to bang her.
 

rudy007

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I agree with a lot of your takes here but this one I can't...

As much as I LOVE Nojiko (she is the ONLY attractive MILF in this game to me, Amber is a HARD pass) I just don't think her as an LI really fits the story Ocean wants to tell. Or at least not yet. And I also like everything we've seen from Nick so far. Sure Zara and Vanessa were not beaten enough as children and turned out the awful way they did, but you gotta give him a break. Dude had a disgusting ex-wife who tried her best to turn his daughters against him by accusing him of one of the most vile acts imaginable. I hope Nojiko and Nick stay together.By all accounts she seems like an amazing person and she deserves all the best even if that means we won't be able to bang her.
Well. In that casa we have to agree to disagree... ;)
I don't have a good feeling about him. Don't know why, but that firs impression is that he's a creep. His daughters are spoiled and I'm not sure what are their goal... We don't know much about them, we will find out gradually...
If Ocean didn't want us to love Nojiko, he could create her ugly, but no, she has to be hot... ;)
Or the problem is, he cannot make an ugly character... ;)
 

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I agree with a lot of your takes here but this one I can't...

As much as I LOVE Nojiko (she is the ONLY attractive MILF in this game to me, Amber is a HARD pass) I just don't think her as an LI really fits the story Ocean wants to tell. Or at least not yet. And I also like everything we've seen from Nick so far. Sure Zara and Vanessa were not beaten enough as children and turned out the awful way they did, but you gotta give him a break. Dude had a disgusting ex-wife who tried her best to turn his daughters against him by accusing him of one of the most vile acts imaginable. I hope Nojiko and Nick stay together.By all accounts she seems like an amazing person and she deserves all the best even if that means we won't be able to bang her.
I'm not that much into Nojiko (not cause she's bad looking!), but I gotta admit that I'm curious how a relationship with her would happen (If it happens), considering this has been one of the very few VNs when I see the 'landlady' as nothing more than a supportive caring motherly figure, even if Ocean treated us with a suggestive scene of her in the nightgown(?) in the rework.

I also wouldn't call Nick creepy, nothing he has said or done so far is sketchy. You can tell he loves his daughers and so far is treating Nojiko right. Not sure if my perception of him is different cause I'm not a dude, but I would also go as far as to say he sees so charismatic and nice that I kinda like him as a character, just as much as Jeff.
 

PaxHadrian17

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I already have my favorite LIs, but I'm interest in the rest cause I'm curious about how MC's relationship with them will develop. We met Marla when she ran over Vic and was about to shoot MC, but we also met Bella while being an ass towards Nami and Maja was also being completely hostile towards MC when she first met him.
I'm curious about Marla, but we can't really say much about her as LI cause she hasn't had that much content (Just like Sasha, Nadia and other LIs).
Right on point!

I did not care for Zara after the locker room incident but then we had the evening at Nicks and she grew on me.

I got a chance to better understand her and even asked her to help me train and she agreed with the small price of a favor.

For all we know, Marla lost a child the same way Amber did and the day she accidentally hit Vic was near/on the anniversary of that loss.

I want to know more about Marla and her story before I decide that there is no point in making an investment in her.

I did make sure to let Amber know that Marla was crying when she ate her lunch alone and that gave me Amber points (and perhaps Marla points down the road).

I also think the new renders of Marla make her Much more attractive, now we need Ocean to reveal Who she is and what her story is.

She is not on the level of Amber, but then name the MILF in SG that is!
 

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Or the problem is, he cannot make an ugly character... ;)
That is exactly Oceans only "flaw". He cannot do ugly. The people that don't look like perfect beings look not ugly but grotesque.

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Or take Sasha. Everyone with such a noticeable face injury would at least look flawed normally. But somehow, she doesn't really.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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And the worst family name for him would be Boner because... well, you know...
OK, OT but you reminded me of a time before cell phones and caller id.

I remember being a bored teenager and looking in the phonebook (one of those 10 lb monstrosities) and I found a poor guy who was named Homer Bono.

Of course, I got several friends together and we crank called for Homo Boner.

Bored teenage boys Will act like :poop: sometimes.

Thanks for bringing that memory back ... and Homer - if you are reading this - Sorry...
 

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That's exactly what it's about... There are only beautiful girls here!!! Whether they have good or bad qualities, they are all beautiful. Everyone can find what they like. ;)
Might be. But is that a bad thing? I like games where all the characters, especially the LI of course, are cute, or at least decent. Of course, not everyone has to be a top model. But one doesn't necessarily have to be fat as a gorilla (there are also chubby women and men who are very attractive) or ugly as night either. Just like in real life. Let's take the classic nerdy "wallflowers" (deutsch: "Mauerblümchen), for example, as there is at least one in almost every school class. They often have little self-confidence, because of fragile family or bullying and something similar. But often they are turn out to be a beautiful swan as soon as they come out of their peel. :love:

I think it's good when all the characters look good too. I like to be spoiled for choice, also because you don't get to see everything in one playthrough. That calls for replay value. (y)
 

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I'm actively trying to zoom through Zara scenes because that "Monica Bellucci in her prime" model absolutely ruins my immersion. Not saying she's unattractive or anything and I've busted many a nut to her in my time, I just don't think using a real actors likeness is a good idea.
 

rudy007

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Might be. But is that a bad thing? I like games where all the characters, especially the LI of course, are cute, or at least decent. Of course, not everyone has to be a top model. But one doesn't necessarily have to be fat as a gorilla (there are also chubby women and men who are very attractive) or ugly as night either. Just like in real life. Let's take the classic nerdy "wallflowers" (deutsch: "Mauerblümchen), for example, as there is at least one in almost every school class. They often have little self-confidence, because of fragile family or bullying and something similar. But often they are turn out to be a beautiful swan as soon as they come out of their peel. :love:

I think it's good when all the characters look good too. I like to be spoiled for choice, also because you don't get to see everything in one playthrough. That calls for replay value. (y)
It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable... Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)
There is only one thing that's worse than make all female characters beautiful; don't make them at all and use black silhouettes (shadows) of other people in a scene.
 

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It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable...
LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.

Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)
Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.

Seriously, Marla over Maja?
There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.


I'm actively trying to zoom through Zara scenes because that "Monica Bellucci in her prime" model absolutely ruins my immersion. I just don't think using a real actors likeness is a good idea.
No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).
 

rudy007

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LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.



Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.



There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.




No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).
Thx. You're right on some points. On other we have to agree to disagree. It's your game and you are in charge. You do good work. And I will continue to play it. You created bunch of unique characters here, but yeah, I don't know why but Nojiko impressed me the most. She's unique beautiful MILF.
 

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It can be questionable... 20-25 beautiful girls/woman and only 10 LI's. Don't get me wrong, I like Ocean's work, but if make few realy good characters and "create" a soul for her, people get pissed when they aren't even lewdable... Why bother to make this character. Use standard DAZ model and it's done (und fertig)... If say we, Nojiko would be "normal" character, nobody would give a fuck that she isn't a LI, but create her different and give her soul and don't meke her a LI, people get pissed. (you can add every girl you like on Nojiko's place)
There is only one thing that's worse than make all female characters beautiful; don't make them at all and use black silhouettes (shadows) of other people in a scene.
I think these things make SG special :love:

and don't forget this AVN has 1300+ patreon subs for 0 sex scene :sneaky:

this is evidence for Ocean's technique is working :WeSmart:
 
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