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yossa999

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Alright.
So, I ditched my current play-through of the new release, and restarted a new game this morning just to find this scene again. Because this was the one that really hit me in the face like a speeding Mack truck.

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So if we know who she is....


Then after the first day of College, where Nika meets Maja a second time on campus grounds, she asks you to pay a visit to Victoria for a 'moral boost'. you return home to a calm, reading Noji, we somehow now have Amnesia about who Victoria and Maja are..

*Scratches head*
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I'll "fangirl" about this VN as much as the next guy/girl who come here, but when I see obvious "boo boo's" like this, I don't typically tuck my tail between my legs and pretend nothing's wrong.

That above, is a pretty big and obvious one in my opinion. You can't imagine how much I want to immerse myself into this story, but that is an immersion breaker. Because it lowers the trust in the story integrity.

And what most users on this site fail to understand, is that this site might be considered as a pirate site, I think that is a mistake and disingenuous to think that. This site might peddle creators' works without their consent at times. But this site also provides a huge feedback resource for creators to identify and filter out such mistakes and make appropriate fixes. People need to slow down on the 'fangirling' and let people express themselves. And stop shitting on those that try to point out mistakes. I agree that there are many that will just try to stir shit up by being abrasive and arrogant. But there are also dedicated fans that want nothing more than to help. And it really pisses me off when people just ignore things like this and just 'fangirl' unconditionally and uncritically.

Anyhow, I'm going to continue taking screenshots for dialog corrections/suggestions, but I will do that VIA PMs when I have more time as I have to bail in a little bit.

I hope this will turn into something more productive and less abrasive.
Peace
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Dude, upvote for really putting in the effort and trying to criticize in a constructive way.
But why on earth, out of all the really rough-made and controversial scenes, did you choose the most explainable and understandable? Even if it really was the devs mistake, it absolutely fits in. Well, duh, the MC does not remember their last name. He just doesn't care about it. He's just not going to bother himself with such insignificant nonsense as remembering the names of some random acquaintances. He does this all the time. Remember, when he and Nami were on the bus on the way to the hospital, Nami said hello to some dude, and was very surprised that the MC did not remember him, since this was their mutual acquaintance, whom they saw many times. When Jeff asked the MC what the name of the MC's school where he used to play basketball was, he could only remember "Tropical something". Seriously? The dude doesn't remember the name of the school where he spent several years of his life? Rather, he doesn't care. And there are many such moments.
EDIT: Oops, Ocean was fast and furious :) It was a miswording.
 

funkymonkeyjedi

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Dude, upvote for really putting in the effort and trying to criticize in a constructive way.
But why on earth, out of all the really rough-made and controversial scenes, did you choose the most explainable and understandable? Even if it really was the devs mistake, it absolutely fits in. Well, duh, the MC does not remember their last name. He just doesn't care about it. He's just not going to bother himself with such insignificant nonsense as remembering the names of some random acquaintances. He does this all the time. Remember, when he and Nami were on the bus on the way to the hospital, Nami said hello to some dude, and was very surprised that the MC did not remember him, since this was their mutual acquaintance, whom they saw many times. When Jeff asked the MC what the name of the MC's school where he used to play basketball was, he could only remember "Tropical something". Seriously? The dude doesn't remember the name of the school where he spent several years of his life? Rather, he doesn't care. And there are many such moments.
EDIT: Oops, Ocean was fast and furious :) It was a miswording.
As you point out, many of those scenes are just about Nika being cryptic and keeping his cards close to his chest (proverbially speaking). That much I do understand. That's his character.

And also, as I mentioned, I haven't played this VN in quite some time and have been avoiding the remakes until the next release would drop. But I've missed this story for the longest time and I haven't replayed it as often as I have with other titles, and decided it was time to get a refresher before chapter 5 hits the proverbial shelves. And when I came to that scene, it was a complete knee-jerk reaction and stuck out so obviously like a sore thumb. Then other dialogs began to stick out as not being very "natural". Couple word changes here and there to make some exchanges feel more "organic" would be nice. I'll bring the dialog suggestions in private, and that will take more time and are very subjective. But I'd love to proof read some stuff before publishing though. But I get it, who am I to suggest such things etc..

This story has an original feel to it, and is different from other titles that just focus on lewd stuff, that I automatically raised the bar so high. Perhaps unfairly high. I just want this to be 'great' so desperately, because I'm so tired of the typical pornhub genre where other creators just cater to fappers and deliver hardly anything of original substance.

*shrugs*
Eh, look at me 'fangirling'.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Alright.
So, I ditched my current play-through of the new release, and restarted a new game this morning just to find this scene again. Because this was the one that really hit me in the face like a speeding Mack truck.

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So if we know who she is....


Then after the first day of College, where Nika meets Maja a second time on campus grounds, she asks you to pay a visit to Victoria for a 'moral boost'. you return home to a calm, reading Noji, we somehow now have Amnesia about who Victoria and Maja are..

*Scratches head*
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I'll "fangirl" about this VN as much as the next guy/girl who come here, but when I see obvious "boo boo's" like this, I don't typically tuck my tail between my legs and pretend nothing's wrong.

That above, is a pretty big and obvious one in my opinion. You can't imagine how much I want to immerse myself into this story, but that is an immersion breaker. Because it lowers the trust in the story integrity.

And what most users on this site fail to understand, is that this site might be considered as a pirate site, I think that is a mistake and disingenuous to think that. This site might peddle creators' works without their consent at times. But this site also provides a huge feedback resource for creators to identify and filter out such mistakes and make appropriate fixes. People need to slow down on the 'fangirling' and let people express themselves. And stop shitting on those that try to point out mistakes. I agree that there are many that will just try to stir shit up by being abrasive and arrogant. But there are also dedicated fans that want nothing more than to help. And it really pisses me off when people just ignore things like this and just 'fangirl' unconditionally and uncritically.

Anyhow, I'm going to continue taking screenshots for dialog corrections/suggestions, but I will do that VIA PMs when I have more time as I have to bail in a little bit.

I hope this will turn into something more productive and less abrasive.
Peace
:cool:
My compliments!

This post brings out a good discussion point with these renders and the associated conversations; this offers the chance to have a discussion about what is behind the words and the overall tone of the scenes.

Cheers! :coffee:
 

Don Sucio

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I was thinking about the Mc's sexual problem, when he can use his dick, I guess he will have erection problems and he won't last long in sexual things, right? I mean, after too long, I guess he's going to need time to get used to the sex. So we have two big problems, now he can´t get horny and them he will not be able to fuck propertly, something that i find logic and normal if the game wants to be realistic.

Blue balls have gonna be really hard to pass :LOL:
 
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rudy007

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I was thinking about the Mc's sexual problem, when he can use his dick, I guess he will have erection problems and he won't last long in sexual things, right? I mean, after too long, I guess he's going to need time to get used to the sex. So we have two big problems, now he can´t get horny and them he will not be able to fuck propertly, something that i find logic and normal if the game wants to be realistic.

Blue balls have gonna be really hard to pass :LOL:
In real live, probably. But we are luckily in a VN, so it doesn't have to be. But still, I think Ocean will make it feel real.
 

Jarulf

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In real live, probably. But we are luckily in a VN, so it doesn't have to be. But still, I think Ocean will make it feel real.
I think so too. Perhaps we'll have to decide on a girl, and then she'll be able to help him break through his emotional barriers, enabling him to enjoy sex. That's the romantic solution anyway. Some therapy will undoubtedly help some as well.
 

rudy007

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I think so too. Perhaps we'll have to decide on a girl, and then she'll be able to help him break through his emotional barriers, enabling him to enjoy sex. That's the romantic solution anyway. Some therapy will undoubtedly help some as well.
Agree about therapy. And an additionally plus is that our "private" psychologist looks like a walking Viagra... :)
 

Jarulf

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Yeah, will they both be able to stay professional though. I haven't played this is ages (waiting for the full update) but wasn't there talk of them going away for some sort special therapy thing? A cabin?
 

rudy007

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Yeah, will they both be able to stay professional though. I haven't played this is ages (waiting for the full update) but wasn't there talk of them going away for some sort special therapy thing? A cabin?
You remember correctly about cabin. We all hope for soon-ish update, but I believe it will be October (beta) and December (v.5.0full). If I remember correctly, WiAB will be released first and SG later.
 

Jarulf

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If I remember correctly, WiAB will be released first and SG later.
Yeah, that is my understanding as well. It's a long wait, but fortunately there are many other fun games to play while we wait.
I may even get Baldur's Gate 3 and/or Starfield.
Speaking of the former , isn't it a little quieter than normal here for a weekend? :D
 

rudy007

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Yeah, that is my understanding as well. It's a long wait, but fortunately there are many other fun games to play while we wait.
I may even get Baldur's Gate 3 and/or Starfield.
Speaking of the former , isn't it a little quieter than normal here for a weekend? :D
Sometimes, yes. But it isn't strictly only weekend, but you're right about today, it took 2h to first alert I got after logging on... It was unusually slow today, even for weekends.
 
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Jarulf

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Sometimes, yes. But it isn't strictly only weekend, but you're right about today, it took 2h to first alert I got after logging on... It was unusually slow today, even for weekends.
Not just me then. I'm off too for a bit, Cathing up on Star Wars Rebels before Ashoka drops.
 

Don Sucio

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In real live, probably. But we are luckily in a VN, so it doesn't have to be. But still, I think Ocean will make it feel real.
I would like to know how Ocean will show this, in relation with the girls. How are going to react the different girls when they find out that Mc can´t fuck properly? I mean, some of them know about his problem but when he can definetly fuck, some girls could laught or moke him for can´t hold in the bed.

I'm not sure how far the Mc can go as far as revenge is concerned, I didn't play the previous version (before all the reworks).

Anyway, I hope Ocean can make it realistic, as always one of my first concerns about the game, he knows how to show a world and a story that seems real. And so far it has not disappointed.
 
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rudy007

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I would like to know how Ocean will show this, in relation with the girls. How are going to react the different girls when they find out that Mc can´t fuck properly? I mean, some of them know about his problem but when he can definetly fuck, some girls could laught or moke him for can´t hold in the bed.

I'm not sure how far the Mc can go as far as revenge is concerned, I didn't play the previous version (before all the reworks).

Anyway, I hope Ocean can make it realistic, as always one of my first concerns about the game, he knows how to show a world and a story that seems real. And so far it has not disappointed.
Yes, that part of the story will be interesting to see. I don't doubt that Ocean can't make it. It will be a challenge to not to loose too much time for it. It could be a chapter long. I hope he can make it without have to make different beginning for each LI.
 

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Yes, that part of the story will be interesting to see. I don't doubt that Ocean can't make it. It will be a challenge to not to loose too much time for it. It could be a chapter long. I hope he can make it without have to make different beginning for each LI.
I just kinda hope there’s a variety of variety with each LI… like being submissive or dominant!! Either way luv the game so far!!
 

Jarulf

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I mean, some of them know about his problem but when he can definetly fuck, some girls could laught or moke him for can´t hold in the bed.
Let's just hope the girl isn't that immature.
Besides, I doubt he'll end up in a situation where sex is an option with a girl he doesn't trust.
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Anyway, I hope Ocean can make it realistic, as always one of my first concerns about the game, he knows how to show a world and a story that seems real. And so far it has not disappointed.
I have complete faith that Ocean will treat this sensitively and maturely and not how we might expect. He's a good story teller.
 
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JJ1960

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Agree about therapy. And an additionally plus is that our "private" psychologist looks like a walking Viagra... :)
I have a theory that we will find out that Amber is also a qualified sex therapist. The way she holds MC in her lap and caresses him during their sessions would indicate that either she has no qualms about violating normal doctor/patient guidelines if she isn't or she will also be treating him for his intimacy and sexual issues.
 
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