Hahn1900

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Rebirth is good, but this is another level, trust me. Most people who love this game come here because of sex, but they stayed because of really good story. But if sex is your primary concern, then, no, this isn't for you...
Not YET...

Ocean can deliver on the Sex-part... he shows us in WiaB. And like the last episodes went, it cant be that far away anymore.

The pool/hottub scene was already a real lewd scene. The making out with the other girls got pretty "heated" too. So... the MC already had some "hard ons" here and there, and the next step isnt that far away anymore... It was never designed to be a "no-sex" game, of course there will be some along the road. I just hope Ocean will not overdo it with the Love-Interests in the game. His development pace is not the fastest, not slow either but he is developing two games at the same time, and both are kinda complex already. And especially SG has aldready many little branches and a lot of LIs in the game, and so far nearly every girl seems to be at least "chaseable" iam just a little afraid that too many LIs can grow over the head... that happened to A.O.A for example. The whole thing grew cleary over the head of that DEV.
 

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The funny thing is that SG is WiAB's sequel and also Ocean's second game.

He didn't even put any effort lol.
It's hard to understand when I see a post like this, like the post is exit from no where, so I had to "press the button", and surprise... there I understood it. It's nice to debate that idea, for Ocean there is no problem in calling WIAB a prequel (I asked him, because as a WIAB fan it bothered me knowing that WIAB was born much earlier) so if the creator is happy with that way of calling his creation, I have to accept it. But on the other hand the debatable thing is, and I only expose it as a mental exercise to talk about something, being that SG already has its script completed while WIAB was discarded once to start again, someone who doesn't know the history of the development of these games, would be wrong to think like that? is it wrong to think that popularity rules?
 

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Not YET...

Ocean can deliver on the Sex-part... he shows us in WiaB. And like the last episodes went, it cant be that far away anymore.

The pool/hottub scene was already a real lewd scene. The making out with the other girls got pretty "heated" too. So... the MC already had some "hard ons" here and there, and the next step isnt that far away anymore... It was never designed to be a "no-sex" game, of course there will be some along the road. I just hope Ocean will not overdo it with the Love-Interests in the game. His development pace is not the fastest, not slow either but he is developing two games at the same time, and both are kinda complex already. And especially SG has aldready many little branches and a lot of LIs in the game, and so far nearly every girl seems to be at least "chaseable" iam just a little afraid that too many LIs can grow over the head... that happened to A.O.A for example. The whole thing grew cleary over the head of that DEV.
Yeah, not yet. Scene between
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was really hot. Scene which you pick from hottop was good, thera are few other scenes who are pretty good too, hot&sexy, but with minimum nudity. We wait for end of chapter 5, then all characters are set and story can continue. Scene which I wait the most is probably Amber@cabin and route I will (try) to play first is Bella/Nami route... There could be some explosions... ;)
SG has many branches, yes, it will be probably a nightmare to finish them properly at and. There are so many single routes, many doubles with Victoria, not a simple game at all.
 
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I just hope Ocean will not overdo it with the Love-Interests in the game. His development pace is not the fastest, not slow either but he is developing two games at the same time, and both are kinda complex already. And especially SG has aldready many little branches and a lot of LIs in the game, and so far nearly every girl seems to be at least "chaseable" iam just a little afraid that too many LIs can grow over the head... that happened to A.O.A for example. The whole thing grew cleary over the head of that DEV.
That would have been a valid concern if Oceans hadn't already written the entire story. AOA's developer was writing as they went... Oceans completed the writing for SG about a month ago. Seeing as all of the paths in SG are already written, I wouldn't worry too much about the number of LIs or lewdable charactersღ
 

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That would have been a valid concern if Oceans hadn't already written the entire story. AOA's developer was writing as they went... Oceans completed the writing for SG about a month ago. Seeing as all of the paths in SG are already written, I wouldn't worry too much about the number of LIs or lewdable charactersღ
I agree.

I also think Ocean is creative and flexible enough to make minor adjustments to SG as the story is told, where it benefits SG.

For example, let's say Ocean finds a perfect song for SG - CH 9, a year from now. He can adjust the 'storyboard' for CH 9 to take advantage of this musical opportunity.

When it is time for Ocean to render and animate CH 9 - we will get the benefit of this new music, all within the broader story already created and envisioned by Ocean.

If Ocean's writing was the means to a visual/audio end - 'painting' SG and WIAB in renders, animation and music, then his creativity has the outlet it needs to flourish.

If his writing also feeds a significant part of that creative need, I wonder how he will share new writing, and with whom, given that SG and WIAB have likely filled his AVN 'cup' to just about the brim of that 'cup'.

If the second is true, I hope we get the chance to enjoy that writing!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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The funny thing is that SG is WiAB's sequel and also Ocean's second game.

He didn't even put any effort lol.
It would be very funny if not for 2 things that spoil your theory.
1. which Wiab are you talking about? Wiab1 has nothing to do with SG and was abandoned a long time ago. Wiab-2 came out after SG became popular, Ocean is trying its best to tie Wiab2 to SG.
2. If the SG, according to your words, is a continuation, can you acquaint us with the first part? No, you can't because the finished first part doesn't exist. SG cannot be a continuation of what does not exist.

ps Ocean had a very bad idea to do 2 games at once. It's like a television studio started filming the series 1 and 2 seasons and immediately showed it. This week they are showing episode 1 of season 1, next week episode 1 of season 2 and so on. It doesn't look very good, don't you think? This is what causes all this confusion.
 

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It would be very funny if not for 2 things that spoil your theory.
1. which Wiab are you talking about? Wiab1 has nothing to do with SG and was abandoned a long time ago. Wiab-2 came out after SG became popular, Ocean is trying its best to tie Wiab2 to SG.
2. If the SG, according to your words, is a continuation, can you acquaint us with the first part? No, you can't because the finished first part doesn't exist. SG cannot be a continuation of what does not exist.

ps Ocean had a very bad idea to do 2 games at once. It's like a television studio started filming the series 1 and 2 seasons and immediately showed it. This week they are showing episode 1 of season 1, next week episode 1 of season 2 and so on. It doesn't look very good, don't you think? This is what causes all this confusion.
Uh, no.

WIAB, even the original (or -1 according to you) version was ALWAYS meant to be in the same story universe as SG and somewhat of a "prequel" to SG.
 

m111m123

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Uh, no.

WIAB, even the original (or -1 according to you) version was ALWAYS meant to be in the same story universe as SG and somewhat of a "prequel" to SG.
They are completely different. If Wiab was made as part of the SG universe, then why was it abandoned instead of reworked? Wiab and Wiab2 are connected only by the appearance of the characters.

Everything is complicated here and you are confused. Wiab1 (abandoned) couldn't possibly be a prequel because it came out earlier. Remember, the first released part is the main one. All parts released after the main one are divided into sequels and prequels.
If you take for the main part of Wiab1 then SG becomes its sequel. Since Wiab1 was abandoned, it is not taken into account. The next in line SG becomes the main part and Wiab2 becomes the prequel.
 

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Gotta collect them dev logs like pokemon cards, ya know? Copium to keep the crying at bay because Ocean decided to work on two games at once.
 

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This Orgitas guy seems like a nice person but I can't help but scare the shit out of me every time I see his profile pic, that ugly - evil doll smiling at me :ROFLMAO:.
Heh, thanks! It is actually from a render i did, should be in the Daz 3d show us your art thread. Posted it months ago, it is titled "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend"

Edit: Link to renders Enjoy
 
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Ok, let's unpack this hot take...
They are completely different. If Wiab was made as part of the SG universe, then why was it abandoned instead of reworked? Wiab and Wiab2 are connected only by the appearance of the characters.
Let's see what Ocean said about this "abandoning" WIAB in the SG thread back in January 2020. I'll highlight the relevant part for you just in case.
WIAB & SG are deeply connected and play in the same universe. So does my planned third game (PLF - Female MC.) But I won't start it until the other two are finished.
That quote came out months BEFORE the last update of the original WIAB. Put another way, even the original WIAB is a prequel to SG.

Strike ONE.

And also in the same month...
The difference between SG and WIAB is that WIAB still has the flaws of an unexperienced dev. While SG got created when I knew what I was doing. (That's why I plan on reworking the first Updates of WIAB.)
Or back in May 2020. I'll hightlight the relevant part for you again.
No. WiAB will never be abandoned.
I started it. I finish it.

And the "Headaches" WiAB gives me are the reason I am growing so fast in terms of my skill set.

Mit dem Angriff Stein- uh.. with the rework of WiAB, everything is going to be fine.

And you could also see "WiAB" and "SG" as one game because of how deeply connected they are.
Abandoning/putting it on-hold would result in a missing puzzle part.
Ocean literally told us WIAB is being reworked, not abandoned, and that the two games, even pre-reworked, are deeply connected.

All of the above was AFTER SG started in May 2019 but BEFORE WIAB (original) v0.6 beta came out at the end of May 2020.

Oh by the way. This is what's in the WIAB changelog:

Ch. 1 Reworked Full
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v0.1 Reworked
A new beggining. You can completely forget about the old chapters.
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-v0-1-reworked-beta-oceanlab.19856/post-6986632
That's right. The "new" WIAB is literally labelled as a rework. It wasn't abandoned.

Strike TWO.

Everything is complicated here and you are confused. Wiab1 (abandoned) couldn't possibly be a prequel because it came out earlier. Remember, the first released part is the main one. All parts released after the main one are divided into sequels and prequels.

If you take for the main part of Wiab1 then SG becomes its sequel. Since Wiab1 was abandoned, it is not taken into account. The next in line SG becomes the main part and Wiab2 becomes the prequel.
Prequel and sequel are relative terms. A prequel is an earlier story in an overall story arch. A sequel is a latter story in an overall story arch. There is no "main one" as you claim. Since The Phantom Menace is a prequel to A New Hope, it automatically makes A New Hope a sequel to The Phantom Menace. (True SW fans please forgive my blasphemy.)

Strike THREE.

You're out.

Word of advice - the confused one is you, the "newbie", not the rest of us, as you weren't even around when all of this "rework WIAB" talk was happening live, while we were there actively discussing it.
 

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Heh, thanks! It is actually from a render i did, should be in the Daz 3d show us your art thread. Posted it months ago, it is titled "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend"

Edit: Link to renders Enjoy
Wutface, please no more :eek:! Although in the second image improves a lot, maybe with a bag on the head... :unsure:
I was almost sure it was from a forgotten slasher movie from the 80s (y).
 
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Ok, let's unpack this hot take...

Let's see what Ocean said about this "abandoning" WIAB in the SG thread back in January 2020. I'll highlight the relevant part for you just in case.

That quote came out months BEFORE the last update of the original WIAB. Put another way, even the original WIAB is a prequel to SG.

Strike ONE.

And also in the same month...

Or back in May 2020. I'll hightlight the relevant part for you again.

Ocean literally told us WIAB is being reworked, not abandoned, and that the two games, even pre-reworked, are deeply connected.

All of the above was AFTER SG started in May 2019 but BEFORE WIAB (original) v0.6 beta came out at the end of May 2020.

Oh by the way. This is what's in the WIAB changelog:



That's right. The "new" WIAB is literally labelled as a rework. It wasn't abandoned.

Strike TWO.


Prequel and sequel are relative terms. A prequel is an earlier story in an overall story arch. A sequel is a latter story in an overall story arch. There is no "main one" as you claim. Since The Phantom Menace is a prequel to A New Hope, it automatically makes A New Hope a sequel to The Phantom Menace. (True SW fans please forgive my blasphemy.)

Strike THREE.

You're out.

Word of advice - the confused one is you, the "newbie", not the rest of us, as you weren't even around when all of this "rework WIAB" talk was happening live, while we were there actively discussing it.
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