Yeah that's a thought I've had these last days. Probably one or two pussy shots will be altered too, but my goodness with the fixation there's been with his dick vanishing from our screens
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Do you even realize how ridiculous this is? Since when can contracts be changed without the consent of both parties? I can imagine how happy employers will be if this happens. They will promise millions, and when payday comes, they will change the contracts and pay a couple of dollars.
It doesn't matter how strict the rules are. The important thing is that they must be fulfilled; if you don’t want to fulfill them, then the lawyers will leave you without your pants. It’s the same with Ocean, if there is a ban, then everything needs to be removed. If some of the nude scenes are left in and some are removed, it would be like breaking a contract.
so you are telling me an adult VN will be censored or have the lewd content removed for whatever reason is making some of its fans worried?
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I completely understand why the music chosen is important for Ocean. As yossa999 commented, there're some scenes connected to the music like that first day of college: from Nami waking Nika up to getting ready and then the arrival; those songs are a break from the kind of music played on previous scenes and we're used to them already. If all it takes to keep all the music is to make minor changes on some scenes, it's the right call to do that.
Curiously for me, the music that I think better captures the Summer's Gone vibe are not the songs, but the ambient electronic pieces. Particularly 'Encyclopedia of Frozen Dreams' by The Intangible. I've done quite a lot of playthroughs of this game and everytime this track plays in the background I just choose a render of that scene and wait until the music fades. Maya at the hospital, Zara at the pool, Nami after the lake scene (IIRC), Vanessa... This symbiosis between the music, the gorgeous renders and the confusion and/or psychology of the characters is one of the main reasons this game is special for me. Beautiful.
Curiously for me, the music that I think better captures the Summer's Gone vibe are not the songs, but the ambient electronic pieces. Particularly 'Encyclopedia of Frozen Dreams' by The Intangible. I've done quite a lot of playthroughs of this game and everytime this track plays in the background I just choose a render of that scene and wait until the music fades. Maya at the hospital, Zara at the pool, Nami after the lake scene (IIRC), Vanessa... This symbiosis between the music, the gorgeous renders and the confusion and/or psychology of the characters is one of the main reasons this game is special for me. Beautiful.
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Terms and conditions on subs get updated. Rates get updated, rents go up. There are so many contacts that are indexed, or have clauses. Law is grey when it comes to civil issues, not black and white. Someone posted some examples of some of the terms. It's literally a minefield when it comes to creative industries. I'd like to see how you'd go about prosecuting a company in a different country for changing the terms on you, you know like social media does pretty much every update. Some of these companies know it is simply too hard for small businesses to get legal representation internationally.Do you even realize how ridiculous this is? Since when can contracts be changed without the consent of both parties? I can imagine how happy employers will be if this happens. They will promise millions, and when payday comes, they will change the contracts and pay a couple of dollars.
It doesn't matter how strict the rules are. The important thing is that they must be fulfilled; if you don’t want to fulfill them, then the lawyers will leave you without your pants. It’s the same with Ocean, if there is a ban, then everything needs to be removed. If some of the nude scenes are left in and some are removed, it would be like breaking a contract.
This important thing to understand is that there isn't much oversight into these areas. People make terms that protect their interests, and they make their terms as open to interpretation as possible to give themselves a way out. For example, my government made it impossible to do tax any other way than online; one of the terms and conditions is that they are not liable for any financial loss incurred by me using their website. What a bullshit term, who'd agree to that? Only my whole country, because the government can imprison us for tax avoidance. Enjoy believing the world is simple contracts of black and white.
You really don't seem to accept that at renewal, the terms of licence can be easily changed. It is incredibly common. Half of business is negotiating fees and terms. Otherwise, no one could increase their hourly rate. In contract work you have to write the contingencies into the fees, but you can't forsee everything, and we're talking about industries that have avoided standards. Or why do you think these industries sprang up after Spotify paved the way, strongarming the music industry?
Anyway, this is way off topic. If you don't believe that people can screw you over by claiming you've broken a vague contract, you're going to have a lot of fun in life. Ocean's learned this lesson in a painful way, and he's had the guts to do the simple things he can to resolve it.
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Easier to ignore him, he is obviously very, very clueless about this stuff. As you say, some companies, apps etc change their ToS and other aspects of use weekly.
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Seems like you missed the shit the owners of the unity engine tried to pull a few weeks back with their new pricing model for gaming firms - even for games that are long since finished.
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No, it has to do with..I don't want my music associated with A or B..although even if it is free, the author of the music has the right to give an opinion or prohibit its use..(as if there are no biased artists)
Once again, another great idea one step behind...
Last time, the excessive use of animations went head to head with the price of the program.(and certain incompatibilities between model and textures)
Before that, graphic quality is an obsession of Oceanlab (a race against time as technology and better software wait for no one...)
Even if you cut all the lewd content, no one guarantees that someone will show up and complain... (ohh my 18 year old son saw boobs in a steam game)
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If it goes down this path, apparently Where It All Began will also be censored... or the project will be shelved once again...
Funny as the world turns, Where It All Began (first version) and his first work published here was heavily NTR and uncensored..
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WIAB will be released on Steam as a porn game (full adult if you prefer to call it that) and no longer has restrictions on its music (as it simply removed all the songs that brought it problems).
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I've alarmingly seen Vic and Nami wearing black bikini tops in steam's preview pics where they are topless in ch. 4.5. I just don't like it...
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I hope it will have a mod to keep the jacuzzi scene, like for the music..
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Okay, as long as you're not joking, the definition of eroticism varies a lot... bikinis, monokinis (microkinis) once scare a lot of people...I've alarmingly seen Vic and Nami wearing black bikini tops in steam's preview pics where they are topless in ch. 4.5. I just don't like it...
Interesting that WIAB continues the way it is...thanks for info sorco2003.
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You mean this pic of Nami? It's in the game. So is the pic of Niko carrying Vic back from the bathroom at night, she's not topless but wearing a black bra.I've alarmingly seen Vic and Nami wearing black bikini tops in steam's preview pics where they are topless in ch. 4.5. I just don't like it...
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Ok, but it's still irrelevant, as the television standard doesn't issue the license in question to Ocean, so my point remains.
Or, to paraphrase someone, this is where you are wrong.
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Not that big of a deal imo.
Up till now this has been a TVN (teenage VN) at best. Its an AVN w/o the A.
Removing a floppy penis and bare titty or two doesn't change that.
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This has been a normal VN from the start, the nudity is there just for the coomer bux. If Ocean wants to remove it, it's his prerogative, but I don't think his wallet is gonna like the result
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Subscription terms can only be renewed after the contract expires. If it is updated during the validity of the contract, then they check whether you are an idiot from whom you can get money or not. A smart person will require a recalculation. It's an old trick. Prices in stores can change at any time; they are not fixed. But if you ordered an item and its price changed during delivery, then the price will remain the one that was indicated when ordering in the contract. Do you understand the difference?
p.s. I read the comments and not only yours, it seems that I am talking with children whose parents provide for them, but they themselves do not know anything about adult life.
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ok, but the fans here are looking for an adult VN so i get why they are worried. i also dont want to play a lesser version of this game
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This is just a definition of the genre, not a standard. In general, there is usually a restriction on genres, but you are right, there can be any restriction in the contract. Why doesn't Ocean talk about him then? It turns out that Ocean knew about this all these years and remained silent. This suggests that he initially did not care about this music since it had restrictions, because SG will receive porn scenes in future updates.