VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[DirtyMario]

Unpopular opinion, but i think the daz render is better. (maybe of the light)

At least on par. But he is still figuring out Blender and it already looks pretty great.
Daz is just a model poser while Blender is a 3D modeling tool. He can do so much more with it once he's comfortable with it.

bro what are you talking about
isn't it because he hasn't socialized in 4 years ever since he became a shut in since Summer, and now his comfort zone has shrunk so much that he gets panic attacks because of going from 0 to 100 social interaction
its mentioned in the game repeatedly

That's how it's described but it's not how it works in the novel bro.
The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else besides Bella. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen. Keep in mind you still socialize just as much otherwise, you do the same things, you just don't "cheat" (if you can call it that).

 

[Bombmaster]

That's how it's described but it's not how it works in the novel bro.
The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen. Keep in mind you still socialize just as much otherwise, you do the same things, you just don't "cheat" (if you can call it that).

Hm guilty conscience, missed this bit when you mentioned before. My play was with a whorenika called out by Nami.
the plot thickens.

 

[yossa999]

[...] The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen.

Nope Ignore Bella but kiss Vic. Or Mila.

 

[DirtyMario]

Nope Ignore Bella but kiss Vic. Or Mila.

Basically, get McPa stacks. You get these from fooling around with Vic or Mila. Not from Bella. Nami?
Case in point, it's somewhat confusing isn't it.

Ignore Bella

Hah, nice try! That won't happen. Ever.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

So it's called "trolling" when the reviews are 1-2 stars. What is this called then?
I guess idiots like yourself can't really lose or be wrong when all criticism is dismissed as trolling and hating huh? Just be mindful that not everyone here is as stupid as you believe them to be

'R you fixin to start a stampede?

 

[Lurcher1]

I mean haters and stans are the same coin.

Between them, they probably balance the scores out somewhat

 

[Doomyk]

Bella isn't the most popular LI because she gets the most screentime, she's the most popular because the ,,enemies to lovers" cliche is probably the #1 trope in storytelling that gets people invested in a relationship, primarily because, these types of relationships are so fulfilling when 2 people who hated or strongly disliked each other start to appreciate, care and like each other more because of some similarities that they have and the difficulties they go through together.
On the other side of things, characters like mila, vic, nia, robin, sonya and even nami to some extent, won't reach bellas level of popularity, because they already started by either liking nika or just being on friendly terms with him, which is fine, but not very interesting.
This is also the reason why Zara and Sasha are starting to get more fans and why they''ll probably be #2 and #3 most popular girls soon.

Not really. Firstly, Nami is second after Bella and it’s unlikely that this will ever change. But Nami has a bonus from the start + for Bella’s fans the dynamics of the love triangle are very interesting. And Sasha is the favorite of many. Are they at odds with Nick? Secondly, if you look closely, communication with many in this game begins with misunderstanding/hostility and can then develop into friendship or even a possible love interest. This begins with Summer's story and can be traced even with Zara, Nadya and Robin. Only if love for Summer is an unchangeable part of the past, the present is under the complete control of the player. And there are hundreds of factors for a character to become everyone’s favorite. This includes personality, possible events, and much more. Just imagine what you would like and what other characters can offer? Racing with Bella or racing with Vic, tabletop with Nadya or sex role-playing games with the same Nami, sparring with Aya or webcamming with Niya. Each character has his own personality and his own capabilities. Is it any wonder that gray mice are not interesting?
And third. Trying to balance interest in other love interests at the expense of benefits. For me personally, it just backfires. For example, how easy it is to get out of the way of Bella and Nami. We can bully Bella, but not the others. Of the trio Nadya/Zara/Robin, only Robin can not be forgiven (she is also the most popular). If Zara can still be explained in terms of plot, then what is the point of Nadya? How hard it is to kiss Bella and especially Nami, and how easy it is to kiss Mila or Vic .How will Bella react to Mila's kiss or how will she react to Vic?

 

[yossa999]

Basically, get McPa stacks. You get these from fooling around with Vic or Mila. Not from Bella. Nami?
Case in point, it's somewhat confusing isn't it.

In fact, this seems quite logical, the MC has already mentioned several times that they are no different with Bella and he is strangely comfortable next to her because he understand her well. At the same time, he is afraid of hurting Vic and this stresses him out. I don’t know about Mila, I hardly remember her route.

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[JJ1960]

I'm glad that MC can't have sex yet, because i can fool around with every woman i see without consequences

But that will stop at some point with the coming of Season 2, and we will have to choose a LI one way or another, no more fooling around if you don't want your MC castrated by Bella, stumped by Nami or slashed off by Sasha.

God damn it, thinking that you will need to refuze Zara at some point in the future, just when i started to like her

Yet this is the perfect reason to pick Zara. She will train you to be able to outrun all those other girls so they can't get their revenge, then afterwards you get to sit naked in the jacuzzi with her.

 

[Doomyk]

I just now noticed that you can often see a red-haired boy behind Sasha, who invisibly follows her. It seems this is a bodyguard.

 

[DirtyMario]

In fact, this seems quite logical, the MC has already mentioned several times that they are no different with Bella and he is strangely comfortable next to her because he understand her well. At the same time, he is afraid of hurting Vic and this stresses him out. I don’t know about Mila, I hardly remember her route.

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I'm not arguing with you yossa.
My initial line of thinking was that Ocean needs to clarify what causes the panic attacks, then someone else said he gets them "because he socializes bro". And that objectively isn't true as of CH 4.5. It's caused by who you kiss or don't kiss.

I honestly think Ocean realized at some point that that stat was bullshit since it doesn't come up again in CH 5 and Nika still has an attack. Maybe we might even get rid of them entirely once we get our hands at Sashas secret KGB grade medicine.

EDIT: Oh, and Mila doesn't really have much of a route. Nika and her are never alone apart from 5 minutes of exploring dat humongous ass in Vics backyard. There's some blurry planning of a date that hasn't happened yet though.

 

[Lurcher1]

I just now noticed that you can often see a red-haired boy behind Sasha, who invisibly follows her. It seems this is a bodyguard.

Didn't see it. However, after my spool through, Inessa does appear a few times. Notably, in the canteen where they all join Nika at the table.

Though, I suspect, Sasha may have been asked to watch Nika and Ayua to watch Nami. For what reason, I don't know...

 

[yossa999]

I'm not arguing with you yossa.
My initial line of thinking was that Ocean needs to clarify what causes the panic attacks, then someone else said he gets them "because he socializes bro". And that objectively isn't true as of CH 4.5. It's caused by who you kiss or don't kiss.

I honestly think Ocean realized at some point that that stat was bullshit since it doesn't come up again in CH 5 and Nika still has an attack. Maybe we might even get rid of them entirely once we get our hands at Sashas secret KGB grade medicine.

EDIT: Oh, and Mila doesn't really have much of a route. Nika and her are never alone apart from 5 minutes of exploring dat humongous ass in Vics backyard. There's some blurry planning of a date that hasn't happened yet though.

Damn reaction limit
I only remember that the MC has an opportunity to persuade Mila to register on Venus and let her assets make some mony for her.
But I guess that he deliberately hid the reasons for the panic attacks so that gamers would find out for themselves. And if you don't look at the code, you'll have to go through several playthroughs to figure it out. So I promised myself that I wouldn't peek into the code anymore, so as not to break the immersion in the game.

 

[Tairnel]

At least on par. But he is still figuring out Blender and it already looks pretty great.
Daz is just a model poser while Blender is a 3D modeling tool. He can do so much more with it once he's comfortable with it.

That's how it's described but it's not how it works in the novel bro.
The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else besides Bella. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen. Keep in mind you still socialize just as much otherwise, you do the same things, you just don't "cheat" (if you can call it that).

I see. Still, can it not be that there is some sort of socialization "counter" that is being kept, and the 'fooling around with someone besides Bella' is what causes it to reach the tolerance limit resulting in a panic attack? It's already been established that, for better or for worse, Bella and Nika's relationship is different from those of him with other girls. Could be that fooling around with her doesn't count in the same way other encounters do.

 

[Razrback16]

Yea if there is one thing this game was missing, it's slow burn... If this game burned any slower it will turn into Starfield. With that said yea it makes more sense to pick either between Bella or Amber rather than pursuing both but man is this gonna get a lot more convoluted and i dunno if Ocean is prepared on having the branch the game into a million different directions, it's gonna get a lot more frustrating.

Hah, yeah I understand your meaning - all I am saying with Amber and the slow burn is that I expect her route to move even slower than some of the others once Season 2 starts. I could certainly be wrong but I'm thinking since she's described as somewhat prudish, is married, and given that Bella makes a comment about that cop wanting to take her (Bella) down because she's "Amber Von Halen's daughter", this indicates that Amber will be hesitant and careful about getting into a romantic relationship with the MC.

As far as Bella being involved, I think it'll be okay if the MC has stayed on relatively friendly terms with her. She's going to be apprehensive, and protective of her mom, which is pretty natural, but I think when it becomes apparent that something is going on, if the MC explains he has good intentions and isn't messing around behind Amber's back it will work out good. Can't wait.

 

[NeroZee]

Hah, yeah I understand your meaning - all I am saying with Amber and the slow burn is that I expect her route to move even slower than some of the others once Season 2 starts. I could certainly be wrong but I'm thinking since she's described as somewhat prudish, is married, and given that Bella makes a comment about that cop wanting to take her (Bella) down because she's "Amber Von Halen's daughter", this indicates that Amber will be hesitant and careful about getting into a romantic relationship with the MC.

As far as Bella being involved, I think it'll be okay if the MC has stayed on relatively friendly terms with her. She's going to be apprehensive, and protective of her mom, which is pretty natural, but I think when it becomes apparent that something is going on, if the MC explains he has good intentions and isn't messing around behind Amber's back it will work out good. Can't wait.

I think the picture Ocean is trying to paint about Amber is that she may appear prudish and professional on the outside but she is a complete "freak" in reality, which is why she is a woman in her 40's and still walking around with pierced nipples and nearly see through shirts and skirts that have her panties show every time she slightly bends over. It's all a facade, out of all the girls in the game she'd probably fuck the MC the hardest cause she is probably repressed as fuck.
Now maybe i am wrong but that's what i get from the way she is presented in the game so far.

There is really no or at least realistically shouldn't be any feasible way for you to remain friendly with Bella while boinking her mom lol, lets be real. Bella especially i feel like she would literally stab the MC with a knife if she found out about it.

 

[KekWGgWP]

I think the picture Ocean is trying to paint about Amber is that she may appear prudish and professional on the outside but she is a complete "freak" in reality, which is why she is a woman in her 40's and still walking around with pierced nipples and nearly see through shirts and skirts that have her panties show every time she slightly bends over. It's all a facade, out of all the girls in the game she'd probably fuck the MC the hardest cause she is probably repressed as fuck.
Now maybe i am wrong but that's what i get from the way she is presented in the game so far.

There is really no or at least realistically shouldn't be any feasible way for you to remain friendly with Bella while boinking her mom lol, lets be real. Bella especially i feel like she would literally stab the MC with a knife if she found out about it.

I mean Bella was revealed to be a bigger pervert than we thought, we saw that when MC was in her room and her aunt exposed her by mistake
Not like her aunt is any better.

And since she is Amber's daughter, maybe Amber has also this perverted side we didn't see yet but she keeps it hidden like Bella did.

A side from her looking all professional all the time when she is shown, we don't know anything personal about her so it could be possible that she can hide something more interesting and i doubt she is as stuck up as she looks like.

 

[Razrback16]

I think the picture Ocean is trying to paint about Amber is that she may appear prudish and professional on the outside but she is a complete "freak" in reality, which is why she is a woman in her 40's and still walking around with pierced nipples and nearly see through shirts and skirts that have her panties show every time she slightly bends over. It's all a facade, out of all the girls in the game she'd probably fuck the MC the hardest cause she is probably repressed as fuck.
Now maybe i am wrong but that's what i get from the way she is presented in the game so far.

There is really no or at least realistically shouldn't be any feasible way for you to remain friendly with Bella while boinking her mom lol, lets be real. Bella especially i feel like she would literally stab the MC with a knife if she found out about it.

No doubt, you could certainly be right - underneath it all Amber is gonna want to have some fun. The beast may be waiting to be unleashed for the right guy.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

So it's called "trolling" when the reviews are 1-2 stars. What is this called then?

I guess idiots like yourself can't really lose or be wrong when all criticism is dismissed as trolling and hating huh? Just be mindful that not everyone here is as stupid as you believe them to be

I call it trolling when:

* Someone accuses a dev of milking when they provide weekly dev logs, clearly articulate what they are doing and deliver on their updates, even if those updates take longer than most of us would like.

* Someone misrepresents the scope/amount of rework occurring in Summers Gone Season 1 and ignores all attempts to engage in a conversation where others post the specifics of what Ocean said he was doing and why.

* Someone lies about the timing of the update and, of course - when the update lands in the month Ocean said it would and about the time Ocean said it would - they disappear and are only seen 'liking' poor reviews of Summers Gone.

* Someone writes a poor review because there is no sex or certain images have been removed in advance of the Steam release despite the fact that the reasoning for changing/removing renders/music/no sex has been clearly articulated by the dev.


Is it trolling when someone rates Any AVN poorly because that AVN does not have the content they want, even if it does not have those tags and explicitly says - No Sex Yet?

*A === As an example - Is it trolling if I decide that the only way an AVN is good is if I can create a Harem of all the women in game, regardless of blood relations or not, and then I create 20 alt ids and review bomb Being A DIK with one star reviews because I am not getting the harem I want and that I am owed from this AVN?

Simple question - is *A above okay or not?

If it is okay for someone to do *A to Being A DIK - why is that okay?

If it is not okay for someone to do *A to Being A DIK - why is that okay for someone/a group of someones to do that to Summers Gone?

What is par for the course for me? Having adult discussions... without childish name calling.

Yes - you referred to me as an Idiot - in two different posts - and it took me picoseconds to recover from the clever brutality of that ...

If you want to have an Adult discussion with me - I'll be here.

Cheers!!

 

[John972]

You are trying to interact with someone who is behaving like a troll.

Many of us tried to engage in genuine Summers Gone discussions with this thread visitor and all our logic and screenshots were ignored. After all - why let the truth/facts about this AVN get in the way of a rant...

You can choose to sink more time into responding to someone who seems to get a kick out of wasting other people's time or you can do what Many of us have done, me included - put him on the ignore list and move on.

He is one of the few persistent trolls still hiding under the bridge near Summers Gone Lane.

When Summers Gone CH 5 Full releases - we will get another wave of trolls - and another wave of 1-star reviews from those trolls - it is All they know!

Once I hit CH 4/CH 4.5, I finally accepted this, and started putting the herd of trolls on the ignore list. Our time has value - I believe that spending that time with an anonymous entity who is disingenuous about wanting to discuss Summers Gone wastes that time.

To me, one or two chances for a genuine discussion is more than fair - and if the behavior of a troll continues after this - into the ignore bin they go.

Good Luck deciding what your threshold is before hitting ignore!

Cheers!!

Cheers.

In this case, I figure anyone reading through this thread can now not only read this users' opinions (masked as fact), but also the replies carefully reputing this users' opinions. The same goes for all of us that have taken a careful, evidence-based approach in replying.

My last post laid down the challenge to basically "put up or shut up". I know they cannot put up... but they can further reveal themselves to be trolling.

I don't mind people having differing interpretations/opinions of the game, as long as they be honest and discuss in good faith.