VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[PaxHadrian17]

Ok, I have been gracious enough to reply to you repeatedly with quotations from game dialogues to repute the points you're trying to make.

Kindly extend me the same courtesy by taking the time to post scenes/dialogue quotes from the game to back up your $200k specialists salary and $50k house arguments. Otherwise, you're just expressing your interpretations/opinions... PS - I already know you cannot back up your arguments in such a way.

Where I live, the average annual salary for a doctor is is around US$97k. The average house price is around US$532k.

It's not about "not liking" your words and "arguing", it's about making you own your words by getting you to back them up with evidence rather than your personal opinion.

You are trying to interact with someone who is behaving like a troll.

Many of us tried to engage in genuine Summers Gone discussions with this thread visitor and all our logic and screenshots were ignored. After all - why let the truth/facts about this AVN get in the way of a rant...

You can choose to sink more time into responding to someone who seems to get a kick out of wasting other people's time or you can do what Many of us have done, me included - put him on the ignore list and move on.

He is one of the few persistent trolls still hiding under the bridge near Summers Gone Lane.

When Summers Gone CH 5 Full releases - we will get another wave of trolls - and another wave of 1-star reviews from those trolls - it is All they know!

Once I hit CH 4/CH 4.5, I finally accepted this, and started putting the herd of trolls on the ignore list. Our time has value - I believe that spending that time with an anonymous entity who is disingenuous about wanting to discuss Summers Gone wastes that time.

To me, one or two chances for a genuine discussion is more than fair - and if the behavior of a troll continues after this - into the ignore bin they go.

Good Luck deciding what your threshold is before hitting ignore!

Cheers!!

 

[NeroZee]

He'll find a good narrative route but I do think it'll be very slow burn developing (which I am a fan of) - this type of relationship would not develop quickly. He has said previously on Discord that Amber's route is much more difficult (if not impossible) if you're on Bella's route because Amber is actually a good mom and is not going to want to have anything to do with you romantically if you're on Bella's path, so if you stay on friendly terms with Bella without getting onto her romantic path you'll be on the right track with Amber (on my route, MC frequently uses the term 'neutral' when asked about Bella - there were a couple spots in the book club event this last release where MC told Claire that Bella wasn't his girlfriend, and where he was asked by one of the other MILFs in disbelief due to how pretty Bella is that there is nothing with Bella beyond being partners for their school project, which MC confirms again that they are just partners - so there is clearly an effort to establish narratively in the universe amongst a number of characters that Bella + MC is NOT a thing. I get the impression this is to clear the way for routes like Amber's (or other MILFs there at the club who know both Amber & Bella - people like Jenna, Claire, etc.) to become possible, which is sensible.

We will still need to find out what the deal is with Amber's husband, which I am very curious about. She also seems to try to help some of her clients (like Marla) with match-making of some kind. I'm interested to see what other places we see Amber at in the story - we've seen a couple of scenes where she is wearing clubbing style dresses, so I wonder what that's about. I would bet we'll get some good Amber backstory during the trip to the Cabin which Ocean says is coming soon. I have faith Ocean will make this a fun and rewarding ride.

Yea if there is one thing this game was missing, it's slow burn... If this game burned any slower it will turn into Starfield. With that said yea it makes more sense to pick either between Bella or Amber rather than pursuing both but man is this gonna get a lot more convoluted and i dunno if Ocean is prepared on having the branch the game into a million different directions, it's gonna get a lot more frustrating.

 

[Bombmaster]

Yea if there is one thing this game was missing, it's slow burn... If this game burned any slower it will turn into Starfield. With that said yea it makes more sense to pick either between Bella or Amber rather than pursuing both but man is this gonna get a lot more convoluted and i dunno if Ocean is prepared on having the branch the game into a million different directions, it's gonna get a lot more frustrating.

Trust the process, our lord and savior is goin to egotrip when ratings from steam bring the beautiful score hopefully

After that a room full of trained monkeys rendering lewds is going to be launched somewhere in germany and long story short, game is moving faster.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Already can’t wait for blender remake for the season one

There will be no Blender remake of Season 1. Nice try though.

 

[RNasc4444]

When Summers Gone CH 5 Full releases - we will get another wave of trolls - and another wave of 1-star reviews from those trolls - it is All they know!

So it's called "trolling" when the reviews are 1-2 stars. What is this called then?

I guess idiots like yourself can't really lose or be wrong when all criticism is dismissed as trolling and hating huh? Just be mindful that not everyone here is as stupid as you believe them to be

 

[Bombmaster]

So it's called "trolling" when the reviews are 1-2 stars. What is this called then?

I guess idiots like yourself can't really lose or be wrong when all criticism is dismissed as trolling and hating huh? Just be mindful that not everyone here is as stupid as you believe them to be

I mean haters and stans are the same coin.

 

[RNasc4444]

I mean haters and stans are the same coin.

Agreed! It's disengenious and frankly disgusting to hide behind a "review bomb" narrative when 99% of the time you have as many "fake" 5 stars reviews as "fake" 1 star reviews. But hey if it comes from PaxHadrian that's just par for the course.

 

[KekWGgWP]

Yea if there is one thing this game was missing, it's slow burn... If this game burned any slower it will turn into Starfield. With that said yea it makes more sense to pick either between Bella or Amber rather than pursuing both but man is this gonna get a lot more convoluted and i dunno if Ocean is prepared on having the branch the game into a million different directions, it's gonna get a lot more frustrating.

I'm glad that MC can't have sex yet, because i can fool around with every woman i see without consequences

But that will stop at some point with the coming of Season 2, and we will have to choose a LI one way or another, no more fooling around if you don't want your MC castrated by Bella, stumped by Nami or slashed off by Sasha.

God damn it, thinking that you will need to refuze Zara at some point in the future, just when i started to like her

 

[DirtyMario]

Unpopular opinion, but i think the daz render is better. (maybe of the light)

At least on par. But he is still figuring out Blender and it already looks pretty great.
Daz is just a model poser while Blender is a 3D modeling tool. He can do so much more with it once he's comfortable with it.

bro what are you talking about
isn't it because he hasn't socialized in 4 years ever since he became a shut in since Summer, and now his comfort zone has shrunk so much that he gets panic attacks because of going from 0 to 100 social interaction
its mentioned in the game repeatedly

That's how it's described but it's not how it works in the novel bro.
The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else besides Bella. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen. Keep in mind you still socialize just as much otherwise, you do the same things, you just don't "cheat" (if you can call it that).

 

[Bombmaster]

That's how it's described but it's not how it works in the novel bro.
The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen. Keep in mind you still socialize just as much otherwise, you do the same things, you just don't "cheat" (if you can call it that).

Hm guilty conscience, missed this bit when you mentioned before. My play was with a whorenika called out by Nami.
the plot thickens.

 

[yossa999]

[...] The panic attack at Vics sleepover only happens if you fool around with Bella and someone else. If it's just you and Bella it doesn't happen.

Nope Ignore Bella but kiss Vic. Or Mila.

 

[DirtyMario]

Nope Ignore Bella but kiss Vic. Or Mila.

Basically, get McPa stacks. You get these from fooling around with Vic or Mila. Not from Bella. Nami?
Case in point, it's somewhat confusing isn't it.

Ignore Bella

Hah, nice try! That won't happen. Ever.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

So it's called "trolling" when the reviews are 1-2 stars. What is this called then?
I guess idiots like yourself can't really lose or be wrong when all criticism is dismissed as trolling and hating huh? Just be mindful that not everyone here is as stupid as you believe them to be

'R you fixin to start a stampede?

 

[Lurcher1]

I mean haters and stans are the same coin.

Between them, they probably balance the scores out somewhat

 

[Doomyk]

Bella isn't the most popular LI because she gets the most screentime, she's the most popular because the ,,enemies to lovers" cliche is probably the #1 trope in storytelling that gets people invested in a relationship, primarily because, these types of relationships are so fulfilling when 2 people who hated or strongly disliked each other start to appreciate, care and like each other more because of some similarities that they have and the difficulties they go through together.
On the other side of things, characters like mila, vic, nia, robin, sonya and even nami to some extent, won't reach bellas level of popularity, because they already started by either liking nika or just being on friendly terms with him, which is fine, but not very interesting.
This is also the reason why Zara and Sasha are starting to get more fans and why they''ll probably be #2 and #3 most popular girls soon.

Not really. Firstly, Nami is second after Bella and it’s unlikely that this will ever change. But Nami has a bonus from the start + for Bella’s fans the dynamics of the love triangle are very interesting. And Sasha is the favorite of many. Are they at odds with Nick? Secondly, if you look closely, communication with many in this game begins with misunderstanding/hostility and can then develop into friendship or even a possible love interest. This begins with Summer's story and can be traced even with Zara, Nadya and Robin. Only if love for Summer is an unchangeable part of the past, the present is under the complete control of the player. And there are hundreds of factors for a character to become everyone’s favorite. This includes personality, possible events, and much more. Just imagine what you would like and what other characters can offer? Racing with Bella or racing with Vic, tabletop with Nadya or sex role-playing games with the same Nami, sparring with Aya or webcamming with Niya. Each character has his own personality and his own capabilities. Is it any wonder that gray mice are not interesting?
And third. Trying to balance interest in other love interests at the expense of benefits. For me personally, it just backfires. For example, how easy it is to get out of the way of Bella and Nami. We can bully Bella, but not the others. Of the trio Nadya/Zara/Robin, only Robin can not be forgiven (she is also the most popular). If Zara can still be explained in terms of plot, then what is the point of Nadya? How hard it is to kiss Bella and especially Nami, and how easy it is to kiss Mila or Vic .How will Bella react to Mila's kiss or how will she react to Vic?

 

[yossa999]

Basically, get McPa stacks. You get these from fooling around with Vic or Mila. Not from Bella. Nami?
Case in point, it's somewhat confusing isn't it.

In fact, this seems quite logical, the MC has already mentioned several times that they are no different with Bella and he is strangely comfortable next to her because he understand her well. At the same time, he is afraid of hurting Vic and this stresses him out. I don’t know about Mila, I hardly remember her route.

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[JJ1960]

I'm glad that MC can't have sex yet, because i can fool around with every woman i see without consequences

But that will stop at some point with the coming of Season 2, and we will have to choose a LI one way or another, no more fooling around if you don't want your MC castrated by Bella, stumped by Nami or slashed off by Sasha.

God damn it, thinking that you will need to refuze Zara at some point in the future, just when i started to like her

Yet this is the perfect reason to pick Zara. She will train you to be able to outrun all those other girls so they can't get their revenge, then afterwards you get to sit naked in the jacuzzi with her.

 

[Doomyk]

I just now noticed that you can often see a red-haired boy behind Sasha, who invisibly follows her. It seems this is a bodyguard.

 

[DirtyMario]

In fact, this seems quite logical, the MC has already mentioned several times that they are no different with Bella and he is strangely comfortable next to her because he understand her well. At the same time, he is afraid of hurting Vic and this stresses him out. I don’t know about Mila, I hardly remember her route.

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I'm not arguing with you yossa.
My initial line of thinking was that Ocean needs to clarify what causes the panic attacks, then someone else said he gets them "because he socializes bro". And that objectively isn't true as of CH 4.5. It's caused by who you kiss or don't kiss.

I honestly think Ocean realized at some point that that stat was bullshit since it doesn't come up again in CH 5 and Nika still has an attack. Maybe we might even get rid of them entirely once we get our hands at Sashas secret KGB grade medicine.

EDIT: Oh, and Mila doesn't really have much of a route. Nika and her are never alone apart from 5 minutes of exploring dat humongous ass in Vics backyard. There's some blurry planning of a date that hasn't happened yet though.

 

[Lurcher1]

I just now noticed that you can often see a red-haired boy behind Sasha, who invisibly follows her. It seems this is a bodyguard.

Didn't see it. However, after my spool through, Inessa does appear a few times. Notably, in the canteen where they all join Nika at the table.

Though, I suspect, Sasha may have been asked to watch Nika and Ayua to watch Nami. For what reason, I don't know...