VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[den_tiger]

Ocean estimated the release date of the full version of CH5 as December/January, he wrote about this in one of the previous WiaB devlogs. But no new content was announced in the fifth chapter, it is unclear where did this statement suddenly come from. The author wrote that the version CH5 Full will contain bug fixes and the completely reworked chapter 2. From the last devlog it became known that small changes were also made in chapter 3, the scene with Mila in the cafeteria.

Thanks. I was wondering why I was getting some flak asking about it so I thought I was mistaken.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The tabletop game and book club scenes, like the training scenes with the coaches or any other scene, are not simply exposition and are certainly not pointless. Just because we don't know where the story goes does not mean that it is aimlessly wandering. Do you read a book and stop in the first chapter because you don't have all the answers? Or because you don't know where it is going? Of course, not.

The tabletop game does seem to be the way to Nadia and Sonya. And it gave us a view of the women that is different and out of character. We were able to see their personalities from different perspectives as they played different characters. The book club is full of content that points to so many things coming up as well as some fun easter eggs. It has been discussed thoroughly and beautifully above.

On the other hand, the tabletop game could've just allowed Ocean to use assets that were vastly different and allow the characters to wear costumes that were hot and revealing. What do you think? Pointless but sexy wandering around a new set or intentional content that shows direction and purpose? Doesn't seem tough to answer.

I think that the tabletop scene also included some extras that can get lost due to the amount of detail Ocean gives us.

For ex. a guy tries to 'rescue' Nadia from the MC and makes the mistake of grabbing him.

The MC knocks him down and Nadia gets the MC away from him, then Nadia and the MC sort out what happened in the locker room.

The guy who got knocked down is the son of a first team BB coach and I think this encounter will impact the MC in the future.

Once the tabletop scene was in wind down phase - Nancy invited the MC and Nami (as well as Sonya) to the barn for a mix of fun and work - all at a future date. Nadia also encourages the MC to come and give it a try.

Add in the late visit by Cindy Mueller (one of their professors, math class) and we find out that professors also play in some of the tabletop sessions.

I think this helps set up a future tabletop session where an MC (post cabin trip with Amber so he is a fully functional late teen male) will get to choose how he spends his time - including some likely drunken lewd time with one or more women, including a professor.

IMO - this future scene will offer both LI advancement opportunities and lewd opportunities (including choices which will likely impact future LI chances).

Cheers!!

 

[BobTheDuck]

I think that the tabletop scene also included some extras that can get lost due to the amount of detail Ocean gives us.

For ex. a guy tries to 'rescue' Nadia from the MC and makes the mistake of grabbing him.

The MC knocks him down and Nadia gets the MC away from him, then Nadia and the MC sort out what happened in the locker room.

The guy who got knocked down is the son of a first team BB coach and I think this encounter will impact the MC in the future.

Once the tabletop scene was in wind down phase - Nancy invited the MC and Nami (as well as Sonya) to the barn for a mix of fun and work - all at a future date. Nadia also encourages the MC to come and give it a try.

Add in the late visit by Cindy Mueller (one of their professors, math class) and we find out that professors also play in some of the tabletop sessions.

I think this helps set up a future tabletop session where an MC (post cabin trip with Amber so he is a fully functional late teen male) will get to choose how he spends his time - including some likely drunken lewd time with one or more women, including a professor.

IMO - this future scene will offer both LI advancement opportunities and lewd opportunities (including choices which will likely impact future LI chances).

Cheers!!

I agree with the plot aspect, but it is a very long and detailed story that puts the main plot development on hold for an extraordinary amount of time. We could also learn more about Nadia, Sonya and Nancy through more banter around the tabletop game. THe other things we also learn in game are Nadia's tendency to roleplay everything in her mind (parallel with how she couldn't 'foresee' Nika and Bella), Nami's feelings of inadequacy and he she wants to compensate, and Sonya's desire for approval.

Having said that I'm an not against it, it just seemed like an excessive amount of immersion into something completely different from the rest of the story with no easing into it. I'd have expected a shorter introduction to it, and maybe a fuller immersion when you go to the farm.

 

[John972]

I appreciate the detailed comments, and I will have to think about them a bit. Please do not misunderstand, Summer's Gone has been my favorite game on this site since it first dropped and still is. The detailed storytelling, renders and multi-dimensional character are really well done.

I guess I didn't read into things like you did. For example, for me Noji just didn't want the MC to go because of all the cougars and the worry he might no be in the right mental state to deal with all the attention... and he did have a serious panic attack at the end of it. For Amber, she's a therapist, psychologist, or psychiatrist so perhaps Noji saw Amber professionally for a while. Amber was just being respectful of her clients privacy. I had a dermatologist who I ran into socially and she politely acted like she did not know me to respect my privacy. And the discussion with Charlie, IMO, was a little self-indulgent; just the MC trying to challenge the pecking order of the group and while he may have been right, was not necessary.

Regardless, you brought up some valid points so I will have to go back through it and read it from a fresh perspective to see if I view it differently. Part of my challenge, I think, is I felt we were already pretty well into the story and suddenly, we were introduced to a bunch of new characters, which just adds additional delays with character development. For example, with Victoria, she was kind of a big part of the story initially, but even f the MC agrees to go on a date with her, you barely see her. So now we are adding a bunch of characters all at once when I though more time could have been spent with some of the other characters. Sonya is another example... hardly spent any significant time with her. It could even be argued Mila has been neglected as well. For that matter, what about Jeff? He has had almost zero interactions with any of the dudes.

I would probably not be complaining about screen time if it wasn't for the book club. Again... this is my favorite VN on this site, but the book club kind of came out of no where and I question it's significance. Regardless, several people here have made some good points so I will go back and look at it again with a fresh pair of eyes.

Thanks for the discussion.

I think the book club sequence contained one of the densest series of plot reveals/clues to date. There was just so much going on. I admit, it took me a few replays of the scene to appreciate all that was revealed/hinted at.

 

[John972]

I agree with the plot aspect, but it is a very long and detailed story that puts the main plot development on hold for an extraordinary amount of time. We could also learn more about Nadia, Sonya and Nancy through more banter around the tabletop game. THe other things we also learn in game are Nadia's tendency to roleplay everything in her mind (parallel with how she couldn't 'foresee' Nika and Bella), Nami's feelings of inadequacy and he she wants to compensate, and Sonya's desire for approval.

Having said that I'm an not against it, it just seemed like an excessive amount of immersion into something completely different from the rest of the story with no easing into it. I'd have expected a shorter introduction to it, and maybe a fuller immersion when you go to the farm.

I admit I liked the tabletop session. In of itself, it was well executed with great ambient music. I know there is trepidation amongst players, since it delays the arrival of sexy times even further.

However, as you said, it potentially opens up a route with Sonya, whose secret crush on the MC is culturally unacceptable for her. Also, it opens up some hilarious times ahead when the MC gets around to playing the taboo tabletop edition in a barn full of women.

Besides, if the tabletop sessions eventually lead to the MC snorting cocaine of Sonya's tits instead of Coach Hill's, then it will be worth it. Sonya's journey to the dark side will be complete.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Nice summary of how this muddled relationship is growing

Anyway I guess the game will us make believe the MC and Bella are made for each other, but already they didn´t recognize this irrefutable fact.

A little drawback of this story is, that the MC is so intensively pushed into Bella from beginning, so it´s hard to follow another relationship path despite there are so many beautiful and interesting girls around.
At the end of chap 5 another serious challenger popped out of the box unexpected: Zara - a comparable character to Bella.
I´m curious how this interesting relationship will develop in the upcoming chapters.........

I feel like Ocean has given us enough to establish the beginning of a relationship with: Bella, Victoria, Mila, Nami, Nia, and Zara (and with Nami, OC, there is a long-standing relationship of friends/siblings - patch dependent).

While I enjoy the MC Nami relationship - I see her as my trusted friend versus an LI (through CH 5)

I see Bella and Zara as LI's that I'm interested in pursuing (with Bella as the only real LI for me at this stage of the story).

I really like Zara and I am also looking forward to seeing she and the MC build a deeper relationship - friendship for now but with the chance to turn it into something more later (and hopefully soon...ish - like CH 6/7).

I'd like the MC/Zara relationship to evolve into something more than friendship and I think Ocean will give us this as he is, IMO, a very good storyteller.

I like the evolution of the MC/Zara relationship to date and am looking forward to some MC/Zara short scenes (now that they are living together) that will give them chances to get to know each other better as well as help each other and grow closer.

I know we don't even have CH 5 Full yet - but I am already anticipating CH 6!!

Cheers!!

 

[John972]

Wow
Everyone still is here with their higher purpose in a porn game with no sex yet but good plot, teasing and bodies.

I know why I'm here. But by your logic, (and pardon my language) WTF are you doing here? Your three posts in this thread clearly indicate this isn't the game for you, but you came back anyway. /s

 

[BobTheDuck]

I admit I liked the tabletop session. In of itself, it was well executed with great ambient music. I know there is trepidation amongst players, since it delays the arrival of sexy times even further.

However, as you said, it potentially opens up a route with Sonya, whose secret crush on the MC is culturally unacceptable for her. Also, it opens up some hilarious times ahead when the MC gets around to playing the taboo tabletop edition in a barn full of women.

Besides, if the tabletop sessions eventually lead to the MC snorting cocaine of Sonya's tits instead of Coach Hill's, then it will be worth it. Sonya's journey to the dark side will be complete.

I think my problem with it is the pacing of it - Nika and Nami are just testing the waters, making friends and they've already done a deep dive into the game, the benefits to the plot are obvious in the long term though - exactly as you said

 

[JJ1960]

Wow
Everyone still is here with their higher purpose in a porn game with no sex yet but good plot, teasing and bodies.

 

[yossa999]

I have to agree with PaxHadrian17, it looks like we're playing different games. It's probably a matter of expectations though, if you're expecting a typical college porn game, the book club scene really feels out of place. But the thing is that SG seems to be something quite different.

What is important here is a story that develops on several levels simultaneously. The theme of rivalry and the struggle for power seems to be one of the central ones in the game. At first, Nika doesn’t understand at all what’s going on here. Gradually, getting to know other characters, communicating and socializing, he studies the environment in which he will live in the coming years. Colleges compete with each other. Athletes fight for their place on sports teams. Coaches are concurring for the best staff positions. Girls traditionally squabble among themselves, constantly trying to dominate each other.

Then, around the fourth chapter, Nika roughly learned his surroundings, figured out who is who, assesses his capabilities, and begins to compete for the better place in the local hierarchy.

Spoiler: And here comes the book club scene.

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Still, I can see why the book club scene might seem like a waste of time. This is when I treat SG like a porny college fuckfest where every female character is just a few holes for the MC to fuck. After all, that's the final goal. Then it’s really unclear why the hell bring in a bunch more sultry ladies if the MC can’t even mow the neighboring lawns.

 

[John972]

...where every female character is just a few holes for the MC to fuck.

I did the math...

Female NPCs:

Adrianna, Alyson, Amber, Anna, Ayua, Bella, Celina, Charlie, Cindy, Claire, Desiree, Emilia, Eva, Miss Harrison, Coach Hill, Jenna, Karen, Katie, Kelly, Larissa, Layla, Louise, Madison, Maja, Miss Marla, Mikala, Mila, Molly, Nadia, Nami, Nancy, Nia, Penelope, Robin, Sasha, Silvie, Sonya, Susan Gale, Victoria, Zara, circa 20 other Hotties = 60 babes

Holes:

Mouth, Vagina, Anus = 3 holes per Female NPC (I left out the other 5 holes, 'cause that would be skull-fucking and that's just plain impolite)

Result:

There is a total of at least 180 holes to be penetrated by the MC's penis.

Recommendation:

I expect Ocean to introduce a running counter so we can tick off each and every hole penetrated as the game progresses... and, by God, they better all be raw by the end of the game. We are watching!

The battle royale between Nika and William Zane to be the biggest man-whore in the SG/WIAB-verse is the game we deserve!!! I hope there's no pencil-sharpener effect on Nika's dick, though.

Disclaimer:

I left out Summer ('cause that could turn out to be necrophilia) and Nojiko ('just doesn't seem right and hasn't she suffered enough?) from the Female NPC list.

2nd Disclaimer:

a BIG /S... obviously!

 

[jhiggins]

911 what's your emergency??

Help! I need an Ambalamb, Summer's Gone, Winter's come, My balls remain blue!!

 

[Sushimaster2521]

How can I able the incest patch using an ANDROID?

 

[noirzesqueszn]

Ocean really needs to stop this WIAB shit no one cares about that game and it's lacks quality in writing compared to Summer's Gone

 

[HornyyPussy]

Ocean really needs to stop this WIAB shit no one cares about that game and it's lacks quality in writing compared to Summer's Gone

Ok

 

[Maviarab]

Aaaannnnnnnd another for the ignore list.

 

[Mortarion]

Ocean really needs to stop this WIAB shit no one cares about that game and it's lacks quality in writing compared to Summer's Gone

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[Cabin Fever]

Ocean really needs to stop this WIAB shit no one cares about that game and it's lacks quality in writing compared to Summer's Gone

That begs the question - are you so arrogantly stupid that you think you can speak for everybody that no one cares about WIAB? Or are you just plain stupid and don't realize that there are lots of people who cares about WIAB?

 

[Mortarion]

That begs the question - are you so arrogantly stupid that you think you can speak for everybody that no one cares about WIAB? Or are you just plain stupid and don't realize that there are lots of people who cares about WIAB?

 

[deadh30775n]

That begs the question - are you so arrogantly stupid that you think you can speak for everybody that no one cares about WIAB? Or are you just plain stupid and don't realize that there are lots of people who cares about WIAB?

Guy must be a psychic